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Old Mar 17, 2004, 10:07 PM   #1
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Terabyte Hard Drive Useful?

A terabyte of disk storage?? I know that this *is* possible, but it still blows my mind. FW800 & USB2 [At $1199, it's a steal!]

Has anyone bought or seen one of these in use?? I'm wondering what one might use it for besides video editing. And how many MP3s would this hold....
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100,000 mp3's based on the ad for the original 5GB iPod.

It's so beautiful. If you buy me one I'll tell you how it performs.
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Old Mar 18, 2004, 12:02 AM   #3
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Just add a red light in place of the blue and call it Hal 1000GB
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Old Mar 18, 2004, 12:55 AM   #4
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100,000 mp3's based on the ad for the original 5GB iPod.

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Why wouldn't it be 250,000 songs??

40GB
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10,000 songs
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Old Mar 18, 2004, 01:56 AM   #5
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Why wouldn't it be 250,000 songs??

40GB
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10,000 songs
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1000GB
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250,000 songs
5GB = 1,000 songs
50GB = 10,000 songs
500GB = 100,000 songs
1,000GB = 200,000 songs

Looks like we're both wrong.

Also, I think that the 40GB - 10,000 songs is based on aac encoding. In your first post you specifically said mp3s, so you would have to go with the 5GB -1,000 mp3 reference.
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5GB = 1,000 songs
50GB = 10,000 songs
500GB = 100,000 songs
1,000GB = 200,000 songs

Looks like we're both wrong.

Also, I think that the 40GB - 10,000 songs is based on aac encoding. In your first post you specifically said mp3s, so you would have to go with the 5GB -1,000 mp3 reference.


I need to concur with Stoid. The iPod Mini (4GB) holds 1000 songs which projects out to 250000 mp3s.

However, I must add, that anyone who has 250000 mp3s should start their own online music store and compete with Apple, Sony, Napster, Microsoft, etc. (after negotiating all of the legal deals with labels, artists, etc. of course).
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Old Apr 11, 2004, 04:16 PM   #7
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I need to concur with Stoid. The iPod Mini (4GB) holds 1000 songs which projects out to 250000 mp3s.
Apple got their new storage figures using 128 kbps AAC as opposed to 128 kbps MP3 (which is what they used previously). They kept average song length the same, but the smaller file size of AAC got them more songs per a gig. (So your 250,000 figure would be correct for AAC files, not MP3s)

Personally, I think both 128 kbps MP3 and AAC suck. I use 192 kbps MP3 or higher ALWAYS.

EDIT: Meant to say "128 kbps as opposed to 160 kbps MP3" ...correct post below in thread.

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A terabyte of disk storage?? I know that this *is* possible, but it still blows my mind. FW800 & USB2 [At $1199, it's a steal!]

Has anyone bought or seen one of these in use?? I'm wondering what one might use it for besides video editing. And how many MP3s would this hold....
I remember having this conversation last time we broke the unit of measure reference measure - back with the first Power Mac with a 1GB drive. It'll get used. Trust me.
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no all three of you are wrong

1000gb=200,001mp3s
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Old Mar 18, 2004, 03:11 AM   #10
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if i had the money i'd buy one right now.

i'd store my DVD library on it (uncompressed). i could fill several of these.
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Old Mar 18, 2004, 06:53 AM   #12
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Nice, but you'd need two. If I had a terabyte of data, I couldn't stand to loose it if the drive failed
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Old Mar 23, 2004, 11:26 PM   #13
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no all three of you are wrong

1000gb=200,001mp3s

sheesh, it all depends on how big your mp3s are...
why can't someone just figure out how many days of music that is under 128kbps.

alright fine
i get about 90 and a half days.
hmmm, how long do you think an ipod battery could power this thing for?
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Old Mar 24, 2004, 12:11 AM   #14
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Using some figures in previous posts, and an average life span of 74 years, you would need approximately 37 Terabytes of space to have music from birth to death. I included a few mp3's to play at the funeral in that calculation.
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Using some figures in previous posts, and an average life span of 74 years, you would need approximately 37 Terabytes of space to have music from birth to death. I included a few mp3's to play at the funeral in that calculation.

That's funny.. But by that time, they will be encoding music streams in MP10 format with 700Kbps.
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Using some figures in previous posts, and an average life span of 74 years, you would need approximately 37 Terabytes of space to have music from birth to death. I included a few mp3's to play at the funeral in that calculation.
That's great... but when you're 74, are you really going to want to listen to the music you picked back when you were 18? And what if there was a song you really liked? You wouldn't be able to listen to it more than once. And who's going to write all that music? Where are you going to buy it--it's more than the complete holdings of the ITMS. If you manage to work all these details out, then you still have to actually listen to it. The "Journey" years will be particularly painful.
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I'm wondering what one might use it for besides video editing.
Some Photoshop artists routinely build projects 100MB or more in size. That would be just 2000 photoshop files. If you could produce one of these works per day, it would take just under five and a half years to fill your Terabyte drive.
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Some Photoshop artists routinely build projects 100MB or more in size. That would be just 2000 photoshop files. If you could produce one of these works per day, it would take just under five and a half years to fill your Terabyte drive.
true, but if it takes 5+ years, wouldn't you opt for 5 separate disks, perhaps? afterall, capacity increases and prices drop all the time, why make an investment now for 5 years ahead?

regardless, there's no "correct" way to use it... whoever sees the benefit for the price would get one, i guess.

it does have a bit of "awesome"-ness to it, though. "ha ha, you 200 GB disk is no match for my TB." that just sounds cool.
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Some Photoshop artists routinely build projects 100MB or more in size. That would be just 2000 photoshop files. If you could produce one of these works per day, it would take just under five and a half years to fill your Terabyte drive.

At work we've just finished working on a 2.5 Gig photoshop file, It got so big the PC with it's huge hard disk, duel 3gig processors etc etc couldn't open it any more.

BUT I though I would try it on my humble Mac at home (just incase) and guess what....... it opened.

My machine is a 533 G4 with 640meg of RAM

So the Mac saved the day!
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your gig per mp3 debate makes me wonder how many terabytes the itms is... say it gets up to 1,000,000 songs, which i bet it will in less than a year... thats like 10 terabytes...give or take.

how many xserves would that be?
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A friend of mine owns a graphic arts business and she had about 500GB's worth of data in just over 6 months. She had to order a 500GB to back it up. She wanted to get one but she needed it right away.
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your gig per mp3 debate makes me wonder how many terabytes the itms is... say it gets up to 1,000,000 songs, which i bet it will in less than a year... thats like 10 terabytes...give or take.

how many xserves would that be?
It's only 3 xServe RAID's. Not a large amount of storage compared to a lot of data centres, many of which have Peta bytes (1000 TB) of data.
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At work we've just finished working on a 2.5 Gig photoshop file, It got so big the PC with it's huge hard disk, duel 3gig processors etc etc couldn't open it any more.

BUT I though I would try it on my humble Mac at home (just incase) and guess what....... it opened.

My machine is a 533 G4 with 640meg of RAM

So the Mac saved the day!
what're you doing with 2.5 GB photoshop file???

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i dunno. one could not have to ever buy a new hd if you get one of these.
it'll be interesting to see these inside consumer machines years from now, and we'll all look back on this thread and say, "imagine what it would have been like not to have them"
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i dunno. one could not have to ever buy a new hd if you get one of these.
it'll be interesting to see these inside consumer machines years from now, and we'll all look back on this thread and say, "imagine what it would have been like not to have them"
Never say never. I can still remember my first hard drive--20 Megs (yes, I'm that old). I never thought I'd be able to fill that, and now 40 Gigs seems pretty tight--2000 times larger!
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