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Old Mar 3, 2009, 02:51 PM   #1
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ATI Radeon HD 4870 Coming Soon For Older Mac Pros, Requires Unreleased OS X 10.5.7






In place of the standard NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 graphics card used on the new Mac Pro released this morning, Apple is offering a $200 option to upgrade to the ATI Radeon HD 4870. In addition, Apple is apparently planning to make the ATI card available as a standalone product compatible with both the new Mac Pro and the previous generation of Mac Pro released in January 2008. The standalone card is listed as "currently unavailable", and no price is given.

Of some interest is the fact that the standalone Radeon HD 4870 requires a minimum of OS X 10.5.7, which has not yet been released, although versions of it have been seeded to developers. No release date for the 10.5.7 update is known, and the standalone ATI card's lack of an availability date at this time provides no additional information on the timeline for the next version of OS X Leopard.

The Radeon HD 4870 had been promised as "coming soon" for the Mac Pro last August, a promise that is finally being fulfilled.

Apple has in the past made newer graphics cards available for previous-generation Mac Pro products, with the NVIDIA 8800 GT card that had been an upgrade option on the Early 2008 Mac Pro being made available as an upgrade kit for the "1st Generation" Mac Pro, which had been released in August 2006.

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Old Mar 3, 2009, 02:52 PM   #2
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Now that's more like it!
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Old Mar 3, 2009, 02:53 PM   #3
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Hope they release it for the 2006/7 generation MacPros.
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Old Mar 3, 2009, 02:53 PM   #4
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I'm not sure I'd call 7 months later "soon," but I'll take one anyway.
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Old Mar 3, 2009, 02:56 PM   #5
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Hope they release it for the 2006/7 generation MacPros.
I'm guessing not, but here's to hoping!
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Old Mar 3, 2009, 02:56 PM   #6
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Nice move Apple and ATI. I'm sure many prior generation Mac Pro owners will be psyched to upgrade to this card.
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Well it's about time ... oh wait ... they haven't said when yet. LOL

Guess when is determined by 10.5.7 ... and they won't say when it's available to avoid giving away info on 10.5.7 (or to pressure themselves to release before ready).

Just realized how outdated my avatar is too!!
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I've been waiting… and waiting…
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GREAT NEWS!

I've been waiting… and waiting…
Now we can all play "Pong".
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How much better is the ATI HD4870 compared to the GT 120? Would 2GB of the GT 120 outrun 512MB of the HD4870? Curious to know.
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AWESOME! I want this!
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Old Mar 3, 2009, 03:03 PM   #12
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It's "available" here in Sweden. Shipping in 5-7 weeks at a price of 3780 SEK ($415). See for your selves: http://store.apple.com/se/product/MB...mco=NDE4NDMxOA
Same for the GT120, though for 1620 SEK ($178).

Note that the prices in Sweden include 25% tax. So if your want to convert it to the US price, pull of 25%.
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Nice a 1GB GPU.
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Old Mar 3, 2009, 03:07 PM   #14
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Now we just need the 4870 for the iMac line!!!! Come on Apple!!!!!!!
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Old Mar 3, 2009, 03:13 PM   #15
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Nice a 1GB GPU.
This card has 512MB of GDDR5. It is not a 1GB GPU.
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Finally

Now I can buy the 24" LED cinema display for my 2008 Mac Pro.

That is, if the built-in iSight/microphone will work if I plug the USB in.
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This card has 512MB of GDDR5. It is not a 1GB GPU.
Im out of the ATI loop but is this card better than the NVIDIA Quadro FX5600? Id have to check if this ATI card is even Autodesk Maya cert.
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Old Mar 3, 2009, 03:19 PM   #18
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I'm really disappointed in the nVidia offering. From what I've read the 120 GT is less than 8800GT, and on top of that both the ATI card and nvidia cards no longer go passed 1GB.

That said, this update has been long over due and I'm glad we are finally getting at least one nice GFX card we can use in our older Mac Pros. Still, I guess we have to wait another year before we can get a single Gfx Card with more than 512MB of ram on it. Sigh.
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Old Mar 3, 2009, 03:19 PM   #19
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It's a shame this isn't the higher end 2gb 4870x2 card, but a move in the right direction.
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It's "available" here in Sweden. Shipping in 5-7 weeks at a price of 3780 SEK ($415). See for your selves: http://store.apple.com/se/product/MB...mco=NDE4NDMxOA
Same for the GT120, though for 1620 SEK ($178).

Note that the prices in Sweden include 25% tax. So if your want to convert it to the US price, pull of 25%.
Available in the UK too, here:

http://store.apple.com/uk/product/MB999ZM/A

£280.00 - 5-7 weeks
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How much better is the ATI HD4870 compared to the GT 120? Would 2GB of the GT 120 outrun 512MB of the HD4870? Curious to know.
Depends on what you are running and even at that, what function inside that software. For example within Photoshop it uses OpenGL for the arbitrary rotation features but not for everything.

Some users might see a big boost, other might see nothing.
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Old Mar 3, 2009, 03:25 PM   #22
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Unfortunately, this great news will be superceded by the announcement of the 5800 series graphics card from ATI. So, once again...apple will be behind in the race for latest/greatest video cards.

It would be nice if they offered the 4870x2 as an option as well...
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Im out of the ATI loop but is this card better than the NVIDIA Quadro FX5600? Id have to check if this ATI card is even Autodesk Maya cert.
For what?

It will kick the Quadro's ass in games, for pro apps, not so much obviously since it's an enthusiast card and not a pro card

However I see no reason why you couldn't chuck in the Quadro from the old Mac Pro.

You might be able to pick up a FireGL card and flash it with a Radeon firmware, there have been some success stories of that.
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This further justifies my selling of the beloved Dual G5 for the 2.66 Xeon. Complete hardware support throughout. I was initially planning on buying the 8800, but this is good news

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Almost makes me wish I bought a 2006 Mac Pro ages ago.
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