Final Cut Studio Update Due in Late April?

MacRumors · Mar 13, 2009, 12:57 PM

AppleInsider reports that Apple is planning to release an update to their Final Cut Studio professional video editing package in late April, around the time of the annual National Association of Broadcasters (NAB) conference in Las Vegas.

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While Apple won't be attending NAB, those familiar with the company's plans say it holds ambitions of debuting a new version of Final Cut Studio, currently late in its development stage, at or around the same time the conference kicks off during the third week of April. Further details weren't provided.

Apple had been a regular participant at NAB, announcing a number of Final Cut Pro and Final Cut Studio releases there, put pulled out of the 2008 conference as part of their continuing shift away from trade shows and conferences.

Previous reports had pointed to a possible Final Cut Studio update at a rumored March 24th media event that had initially surfaced as a possibility for hardware releases. With the introduction of new iMacs, Mac minis and Mac Pros on March 3rd and yesterday's announcement of an iPhone OS 3.0 media event on March 17th, a March 24th event is looking increasingly unlikely.

Article Link: Final Cut Studio Update Due in Late April?

isethx · Mar 13, 2009, 01:00 PM

i reallly hope so! great news.

rick3000 · Mar 13, 2009, 01:01 PM

Great, it needs an update!

FF_productions · Mar 13, 2009, 01:02 PM

I'm still learning FCS2, I'm glad they still care for the pro apps, I thought Apple just made phone software

MIDI_EVIL · Mar 13, 2009, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by FF_productions

I'm still learning FCS2, I'm glad they still care for the pro apps, I thought Apple just made phone software

Totally!

Good to know they still have an interest.

I too am still getting to grips with FCS2.

Durendal · Mar 13, 2009, 01:08 PM

It's about damned time! FCS2 is a good two years old or more by now. It's in desperate need of an upgrade. BluRay support is a must. I don't care if Apple doesn't like the licensing and other crap. It NEEDS to happen for FCS2 to be competitive. That and Adobe has gotten their butts into gear and are passing Apple up in that realm. My brother is a video guru who loved Final Cut and did all sorts of groovy things with it. Now he's in film school and readily admits that Adobe is stomping FCS2 across the board. Apparently Premiere has more fine-grained controls and well, let's face it, Compressor is an utter joke. I've used free software that kicks it's butt. The only thing Compressor really has is frame controls. Sure, they can deinterlace beautifully (when it works), but you'd better have an octocore Mac Pro if you want it to finish before you collect Social Security.

Now, what would be REALLY cool is support for OpenCL when Snow Leopard hits. Can you imagine what that could do to rendering/encoding times? Apple would nuke the competition!

swatchpost · Mar 13, 2009, 01:12 PM

Maybe they'll make FCP able to export accurate EDLs....

Or revamp their lacking trim-mode....

Or allow users to "Apply to ALL" when setting scratch disks....

<sigh>

but probably not

Chupa Chupa · Mar 13, 2009, 01:14 PM

It wouldn't be totally bizarre for Apple to announce FCS 3 on Monday... to ship in April. Sure it's mixing phone s/w with pro apps but IIRC the original Nano was unveiled at an Apple hardware event.

Frankly if FSC doesn't have Blu-Ray burning support I won't really care. FCS 2 is working great for me except for not being able to burn to HD media.

iMacmatician · Mar 13, 2009, 01:25 PM

Great news!

Note that one of the March 24 rumors somewhat supports this rumor.

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Originally Posted by MacRumors

According to Sevenmac, a new version of Final Cut Studio currently exists as an internal beta. The beta version, however, is reported to be buggy, which could force Apple to delay the special event by several weeks.

The AppleInsider report also has a detail on an upcoming version of Aperture.

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Originally Posted by AppleInsider

Another Pro app due for an update is Aperture, with the last 2.0 reference release delivered last February. Aperture is unique among Apple's headlining Pro Apps in that rather than being based on an acquired title and simplified for inclusion in iLife, it was developed internally at Apple as a professional version of iPhoto. The new version will introduce native 64-bit support, mitigating one of the advantages held by Adobe with its rival Photoshop Lightroom software, which gained 64-bit support late last July.

Shookster · Mar 13, 2009, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by swatchpost

Or allow users to "Apply to ALL" when setting scratch disks....

Do you mean "Apply to Selected Project Only"? Apply to All is the current behavior for scratch disks.

swatchpost · Mar 13, 2009, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Shookster

Do you mean "Apply to Selected Project Only"? Apply to All is the current behavior for scratch disks.

No, I mean when you're in System Settings it should have a button you can click to apply the Scratch Disk, Waveform Cache, Thumbnail Cache, and Autosave Vault to ONE FOLDER instead of having to click "Set" for each one.

Actually, why can't FCP just be more like Avid....

bigtriece · Mar 13, 2009, 01:32 PM

From what I've heard the new version of Final Cut is going to have a virtual orchestra included, with scoring built into the program, so you will no longer need Logic to score the film project.

It's just a shame that the new imac's and macbook pros are going to struggle to run Final Cut 09, as it will need at least 100gb of hard drive space and an Intel i7 to run this program smoothly. I guess one way would be to build your own computer and use the Phenom II chips which only cost around $150 and are just as fast as the Intel i7s.

speakerwizard · Mar 13, 2009, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Durendal

It's about damned time! FCS2 is a good two years old or more by now. It's in desperate need of an upgrade. BluRay support is a must. I don't care if Apple doesn't like the licensing and other crap. It NEEDS to happen for FCS2 to be competitive. That and Adobe has gotten their butts into gear and are passing Apple up in that realm. My brother is a video guru who loved Final Cut and did all sorts of groovy things with it. Now he's in film school and readily admits that Adobe is stomping FCS2 across the board. Apparently Premiere has more fine-grained controls and well, let's face it, Compressor is an utter joke. I've used free software that kicks it's butt. The only thing Compressor really has is frame controls. Sure, they can deinterlace beautifully (when it works), but you'd better have an octocore Mac Pro if you want it to finish before you collect Social Security.

Now, what would be REALLY cool is support for OpenCL when Snow Leopard hits. Can you imagine what that could do to rendering/encoding times? Apple would nuke the competition!

This is mostly nonsense, final cut is better / performing better and sells better than adobe production, also you can render out h264 ready for burning onto blu-ray (which can be done in toast or on a pc) and is a higher quality than what production suite can do. Also i dunno how apple keeps it so cheap, with the inclusion of color the price of studio is unbeatable.

asphyxiafeeling · Mar 13, 2009, 01:39 PM

and the naysayers kept saying apple doesn't care about it's pro apps anymore...

Shiner · Mar 13, 2009, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bigtriece

From what I've heard the new version of Final Cut is going to have a virtual orchestra included, with scoring built into the program, so you will no longer need Logic to score the film project.

It's just a shame that the new imac's and macbook pros are going to struggle to run Final Cut 09, as it will need at least 100gb of hard drive space and an Intel i7 to run this program smoothly. I guess one way would be to build your own computer and use the Phenom II chips which only cost around $150 and are just as fast as the Intel i7s.

Agreed. That is what happens when you use last years mobile processors in everything. Apple forces you to buy a mac pro. Like you said it makes more since to just build your own PC.

numbersyx · Mar 13, 2009, 01:42 PM

Shame it's just Final Cut Studio I was hoping they would release an Aperture update too...

JonasLondon · 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by swatchpost

No, I mean when you're in System Settings it should have a button you can click to apply the Scratch Disk, Waveform Cache, Thumbnail Cache, and Autosave Vault to ONE FOLDER instead of having to click "Set" for each one.
...

And how often do you do this? :-)

I do that once everytime I install it. I.e. get a new Mac Pro. I.e. about every two years. Considering the entire installation can take a few hours, what's the 10 seconds it takes to set the 6-7 scratch disk settings?

you've got to wonder sometimes... :-)

I'm not burning BluRay, and still got plenty to learn about FCS2, which I think is pretty brilliant. Especially together with Shake. Although I AM excited about "Phenomenon" a.k.a. "Apple's Shake", but most of all I look forward to Aperture 3.0 - now that can do with some developer love. Ad Snow Leopard and multi-core glory to all sorts of things. ArenÄt all these soon-coming things exciting? :-) Go

!

JonasLondon · Mar 13, 2009, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by speakerwizard

This is mostly nonsense, final cut is better / performing better and sells better than adobe production, also you can render out h264 ready for burning onto blu-ray (which can be done in toast or on a pc) and is a higher quality than what production suite can do. Also i dunno how apple keeps it so cheap, with the inclusion of color the price of studio is unbeatable.

What he said. To the last point. Absolutely true.

iMacmatician · Mar 13, 2009, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by numbersyx

Shame it's just Final Cut Studio I was hoping they would release an Aperture update too...

Probably in the cards too…

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Originally Posted by AppleInsider

Another Pro app due for an update is Aperture, with the last 2.0 reference release delivered last February. … The new version will introduce native 64-bit support, mitigating one of the advantages held by Adobe with its rival Photoshop Lightroom software, which gained 64-bit support late last July.

Small White Car · Mar 13, 2009, 01:50 PM

I'll be happy if it can finally use all my CPU cores to their fullest.

I just LOVE waiting 40 minutes for an export when I can see all my procesor cores working at 45%.

Durendal · Mar 13, 2009, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigtriece

From what I've heard the new version of Final Cut is going to have a virtual orchestra included, with scoring built into the program, so you will no longer need Logic to score the film project.

It's just a shame that the new imac's and macbook pros are going to struggle to run Final Cut 09, as it will need at least 100gb of hard drive space and an Intel i7 to run this program smoothly. I guess one way would be to build your own computer and use the Phenom II chips which only cost around $150 and are just as fast as the Intel i7s.

Um...no. The i7 cleans the Phenom II's clock. The Phenom II can match the previous gen Core 2 Quads, but not the i7. The price is a lot better of course, but Intel has the performance crown. That and setting up an AMD Hackintosh is a pain in the neck compared to an Intel system.

mogzieee · Mar 13, 2009, 01:52 PM

This is interesting. I would imagine that any software update that requires the consumer to pay more would have an official release at an event, right? So I would imagine that the forthcoming update will probably be an addition to the 6 apps currently out there, or a complete refresh that improves performance, new features, etc.

Being a FCP user myself I shall look forward to the update if and when it happens.

derek1984 · Mar 13, 2009, 01:54 PM

I was able to get Logic Express and Aperture each for $69 preinstalled last night with my MBP. That was with the education discount. I know they can't be updated but I couldn't resist with those being so cheap. Maybe they are so cheap right now because they are going to be updated soon....?

TMay · Mar 13, 2009, 01:56 PM

Delays in the pro apps are due to complete rewrites for Cocoa. They will 64 bit, and ready to take advantage of OpenCL and Grand Central when Snow Leopard arrives.

These delays were obvious and necessary, and certainly, if you have been following the Adobe Photoshop CS4 mini-debacle and Shake's rebuild, you would have been aware of this.

The real question will be whether the pro-apps will leap ahead of the various competitors.

As an aside, BD authoring support will be in FCS.

tom

Dr Strangelove · Mar 13, 2009, 01:56 PM

Does this mean we may see an update to FCE as well?

Mar 13, 2009, 01:00 PM	#2
isethx macrumors regular Join Date: Aug 2008	i reallly hope so! great news. __________________ 17" MBP Unibody 2.93GHz, 4 GB RAM 320GB 7200RPM HD unboxing video - 17" MBP unibody http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNCihPgfkno

Mar 13, 2009, 01:01 PM	#3
rick3000 macrumors 6502 Join Date: May 2008 Location: West Coast	Great, it needs an update! __________________ 15" MacBook Pro 3.06GHz eMac 1GHz & iBook 1.2GHz

Mar 13, 2009, 01:02 PM	#4
FF_productions macrumors 68030 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mt. Prospect, Illinois	I'm still learning FCS2, I'm glad they still care for the pro apps, I thought Apple just made phone software __________________ Mac Pro, Quad 2.66, 11 GB ram, 4.5 TB's, 7300GT PowerMac G5 Dual 2.0 1.5 GB 23" Cinema Join The World Community Grid! Also Visit My Site

Mar 13, 2009, 01:12 PM	#7
swatchpost macrumors newbie Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Austin, TX	dubious Maybe they'll make FCP able to export accurate EDLs.... Or revamp their lacking trim-mode.... Or allow users to "Apply to ALL" when setting scratch disks.... <sigh> but probably not

Mar 13, 2009, 01:32 PM	#12
bigtriece macrumors newbie Join Date: Mar 2009	Virtual Orchestra/Scoring Built In From what I've heard the new version of Final Cut is going to have a virtual orchestra included, with scoring built into the program, so you will no longer need Logic to score the film project. It's just a shame that the new imac's and macbook pros are going to struggle to run Final Cut 09, as it will need at least 100gb of hard drive space and an Intel i7 to run this program smoothly. I guess one way would be to build your own computer and use the Phenom II chips which only cost around $150 and are just as fast as the Intel i7s.

Mar 13, 2009, 01:08 PM	#6
Durendal macrumors regular Join Date: Apr 2003	It's about damned time! FCS2 is a good two years old or more by now. It's in desperate need of an upgrade. BluRay support is a must. I don't care if Apple doesn't like the licensing and other crap. It NEEDS to happen for FCS2 to be competitive. That and Adobe has gotten their butts into gear and are passing Apple up in that realm. My brother is a video guru who loved Final Cut and did all sorts of groovy things with it. Now he's in film school and readily admits that Adobe is stomping FCS2 across the board. Apparently Premiere has more fine-grained controls and well, let's face it, Compressor is an utter joke. I've used free software that kicks it's butt. The only thing Compressor really has is frame controls. Sure, they can deinterlace beautifully (when it works), but you'd better have an octocore Mac Pro if you want it to finish before you collect Social Security. Now, what would be REALLY cool is support for OpenCL when Snow Leopard hits. Can you imagine what that could do to rendering/encoding times? Apple would nuke the competition!

Mar 13, 2009, 01:14 PM	#8
Chupa Chupa macrumors 68000 Join Date: Jul 2002	It wouldn't be totally bizarre for Apple to announce FCS 3 on Monday... to ship in April. Sure it's mixing phone s/w with pro apps but IIRC the original Nano was unveiled at an Apple hardware event. Frankly if FSC doesn't have Blu-Ray burning support I won't really care. FCS 2 is working great for me except for not being able to burn to HD media.

Mar 13, 2009, 01:39 PM	#14
asphyxiafeeling macrumors regular Join Date: May 2008 Location: Cali baby!	and the naysayers kept saying apple doesn't care about it's pro apps anymore... __________________ Music is what feelings sound like. ~Author Unknown 2.0 uMB

Mar 13, 2009, 01:42 PM	#16
numbersyx macrumors 6502a Join Date: Sep 2006	Shame it's just Final Cut Studio I was hoping they would release an Aperture update too...

Mar 13, 2009, 01:50 PM	#20
Small White Car macrumors 68040 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Washington DC	I'll be happy if it can finally use all my CPU cores to their fullest. I just LOVE waiting 40 minutes for an export when I can see all my procesor cores working at 45%.

Mar 13, 2009, 01:52 PM	#22
mogzieee macrumors 6502a Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Oxford, UK.	This is interesting. I would imagine that any software update that requires the consumer to pay more would have an official release at an event, right? So I would imagine that the forthcoming update will probably be an addition to the 6 apps currently out there, or a complete refresh that improves performance, new features, etc. Being a FCP user myself I shall look forward to the update if and when it happens. __________________ 15" MacBook Pro 2.4GHz, 8GB iPod touch, 1GB iPod shuffle, MobileMe. website. blog. twitter.

Mar 13, 2009, 01:54 PM	#23
derek1984 macrumors 6502 Join Date: Nov 2008	I was able to get Logic Express and Aperture each for $69 preinstalled last night with my MBP. That was with the education discount. I know they can't be updated but I couldn't resist with those being so cheap. Maybe they are so cheap right now because they are going to be updated soon....?

Mar 13, 2009, 01:56 PM	#24
TMay macrumors 6502 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Carson City, NV	64 bit transition Delays in the pro apps are due to complete rewrites for Cocoa. They will 64 bit, and ready to take advantage of OpenCL and Grand Central when Snow Leopard arrives. These delays were obvious and necessary, and certainly, if you have been following the Adobe Photoshop CS4 mini-debacle and Shake's rebuild, you would have been aware of this. The real question will be whether the pro-apps will leap ahead of the various competitors. As an aside, BD authoring support will be in FCS. tom

Mar 13, 2009, 01:56 PM	#25
Dr Strangelove macrumors regular Join Date: Jul 2008	Does this mean we may see an update to FCE as well? __________________ “We live in a country where John Lennon takes eight bullets, Yoko Ono is walking right beside him and not one hits her. Explain that to me!” -DL

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