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Old May 13, 2009, 04:44 PM   #26
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Blizzard is developing a new MMO, but it is a completely new franchise. I read about it on Ars' website.

I think Star Trek: Online has the potential to be pretty big/popular, especially with the success of the new film. Looks cool!
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I'm really looking forward to Star Trek online. I played EVE for awhile, but I love Star Trek ship games.
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Blizzard is developing a new MMO, but it is a completely new franchise. I read about it on Ars' website.
Has the setting been leaked?

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I think Star Trek: Online has the potential to be pretty big/popular, especially with the success of the new film. Looks cool!
Great film, but will it be a great MMO? Is there planet exploration there? A primarily PVP game? I could see that, lots of conflict in space.
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I've actually been dabbling at the thoughts of going back to FFXI, the Crossover Games folks have managed to get it working reliably well under Crossover, so no longer any need to reboot into windows (Or even have a windows partition) to run it. Basically all I was waiting for.

Now I just have to figure out if I have the time for that :P
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IMO the "next big" is Aion.
I'm currently playing the chinese full version, its really good.
Great graphics / visuals, awesome musical score and gameplay.
You should take a look at it at www.aiononline.com

The US / EU release should be in Fall 2009
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I've actually been dabbling at the thoughts of going back to FFXI, the Crossover Games folks have managed to get it working reliably well under Crossover, so no longer any need to reboot into windows (Or even have a windows partition) to run it. Basically all I was waiting for.

Now I just have to figure out if I have the time for that :P

I would love to go back to FFXI but i quit about 2 years ago i had a 75 rdm/brd/sam. If i could get all my characters back i would jump on it in a heart beat.
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Great film, but will it be a great MMO? Is there planet exploration there? A primarily PVP game? I could see that, lots of conflict in space.
The setting has not been leaked, no. At least nothing I have read. Should be interesting to say the least.

If you google Star Trek: Online, you can find their official website and view a trailer of the game. It looks like there will be planetary exploration, but from what it sounds like, the primary part of the game will take place in space. Evan if it only has short lived success, it looks really cool!
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If you google Star Trek: Online, you can find their official website and view a trailer of the game.
Startrekonline- I played the "Game Play" Trailer, looked interesting but did not sell me yet. I'm wondering how they control the numbers of space ships and how special is it to become Captain and what it takes to make Star Ship Captain, and then when you blow up, do they just hand you another? Just thinking out loud.
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The setting has not been leaked, no. At least nothing I have read. Should be interesting to say the least.
I suspect that something will be announced at Blizzcon (in August).
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I would love to go back to FFXI but i quit about 2 years ago i had a 75 rdm/brd/sam. If i could get all my characters back i would jump on it in a heart beat.
Keep your eye out, they sometimes have a Return to Vana'Diel campaign where you can indeed get your character back. As long as you didn't delete when you deactivated, they should still be there.
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1. It's more of a learning cliff...

2. It's not brutal, but it isn't forgiving like WoW. Besides, if you're a part of a corp they'll usually have some sort of policy worked out to replace whatever you lose in battles, though that's only in 0.0 space, not in Empire.
Here's a pretty neat video showing some PVP action. Don't worry, if you don't really know what's going on, nobody really does unless you're the guy playing in the video!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcwG3ABl9Qw

As you can see, even though EVE has pretty cool graphics they say, the only time you realy get to see it is if you're not really fighting. Otherwise, it's basically using a sort of tactical overlay type of interface where you can barely see anything other than blips and statuses basically.

But as for the brutal death sentence, it's really up to you. You can select what you loose to a certain extent because it's almost like loosing all your items when you die. But if your team wins, you can get some random ones back from your "wreckage". So you can use "expensive" or "cheap" items determining your own death penalty. If you want to be more poweful at the moment, normally you use more expensive items. But by no means is it always advantageous to use the highest costing items. You can kill a player / group that is sporting 10x more expensive items than your team is just by what your present items allow you to do synergystically compared to the other guys. Most people use "generic" items because you will lose it eventually. There are some "rare" (somewhat equivalent to "elite" in wow) but only the richest (and luckiest) players have those and only use them for special occasions or just collect them.

But you don't really have to fight. You can carebare your way through the game and be really rich too and afford the giant ships and stuff. And then fight when you feel like it. There are a lot of "crafters" and "crafting guilds" in the game as well. Crafters always have something to do because everything can be lost and either looted by a victor or some random passerby or sinked back into the game. And there are "pirate guilds" that often try to blow them up and steal their stuff. lol

And there is no "universal Auction House" throughout the game. Everything has to be physically transported to various areas of the universe. And this is also where pirate guilds make most of their money trying to jack a transport or convoy. And if they blow something up, I think like half the cargo sinks back into the game. But they can demand a "ransom" after pinning you or work out some deal to for a "win-win" situation if you can put it that way. hehe Or they can just let you give them your ship and promise not to kill you (where you loose enhancements called implants and have to pay for a "clone") ... and have some other dude maybe waiting for you in your escape pod at the other end and kill you for fun anyway. LOL

And here's a good carebare video.
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Eve learning cliff ?!?! ohh you mean this :P

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And here's what happens when you can't take a learning cliff...
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Great film, but will it be a great MMO? Is there planet exploration there? A primarily PVP game? I could see that, lots of conflict in space.
I believe it is PVP and PVC. You run your own ship, and are called captain, regardless of rank, in keeping with naval tradition. It is space and planet combat, so it goes both ways. It looks pretty sweet. Only downside is their is no Mac version planned.
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Eve learning cliff ?!?! ohh you mean this :P
LOL, great pic with the little hanging stick figures and all!

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And here's what happens when you can't take a learning cliff...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns9oAGnK9CU

I listened to about 3 min of that to get the gist. That a very good reason why playing PVP takes the right temperament and it helps if don't mind being ganked and/or stomped to pieces on a regular basis. I've also heard in Eve, when you get de-stroyed, you can be looted? But there is insurance to get your ship back? (wipes brow) I think I like hanging out with the Care Bears. It's more fun!
I started WoW on a PVP server. It really does interfer with PVE questing if you have any interest in that. Once in retail I switched to a "normal" i.e. "easy" servers.
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LOL, great pic with the little hanging stick figures and all!



I listened to about 3 min of that to get the gist. That a very good reason why playing PVP takes the right temperament and it helps if don't mind being ganked and/or stomped to pieces on a regular basis. I've also heard in Eve, when you get de-stroyed, you can be looted? But there is insurance to get your ship back? (wipes brow) I think I like hanging out with the Care Bears. It's more fun!
I started WoW on a PVP server. It really does interfer with PVE questing if you have any interest in that. Once in retail I switched to a "normal" i.e. "easy" servers.

Yeah, in EVE, your ship turns into a wreck where anyone can loot a random 50% (I think) of the items that didn’t get “destroyed”.
The wreck can also be “salvaged” (similar to disenchanted) yielding reagents to make other things (but they are normally worth a small fraction of the total).
The insurance covers the “base value” of the ship only…but of course you have to pay for insurance.
However, for advance ships that take a lot of rare materials to make, the market value is often a lot more than the game’s base value.
If your escape pod gets destroyed, you lose any “implants” (similar to enchants, but to your body) and you have to buy a clone to preserve your skills (which is similar to XP, but it takes real time to advance rather than grinding). For example, whether you log in 1 hour per week or 40 hours per week, your character can be potentially at the same skill level. Of course the later case makes it easier to afford the skills (unless you buy your currency).

The harshest penalty (which doesn’t happen to a lot of ppl) is if you don’t buy an updated clone, you will lose a small percentage of your skill accumulation randomly when you die. It’s not so bad if you’re a lowbie and you can lose like 1 hour of skills. But if your character is aged, you can lose like days. But by that time, you don’t forget to get a clone. But mistakes do happen.



There's only one server in EVE and it's a PVP one.

There are many ways to play the game. But PVP can destroy a lot of money. The good part is that often there are guilds that want pvpers and will supply you equipment to lose. Powerful ones have established “territory” where they mine moons and asteroids and “grind” on powerful mobs and have guild factories where they produce equipment...some of which they give you…and some they sell to you at a discounted price…and some they sell to outsiders at full price. With this comes the “defense” of the territory where they also need players for.
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[FONT=Calibri]There's only one server in EVE and it's a PVP one.

There are many ways to play the game. But PVP can destroy a lot of money. The good part is that often there are guilds that want pvpers and will supply you equipment to lose. Powerful ones have established “territory” where they mine moons and asteroids and “grind” on powerful mobs and have guild factories where they produce equipment...some of which they give you…and some they sell to you at a discounted price…and some they sell to outsiders at full price. With this comes the “defense” of the territory where they also need players for.
Does Eve have PVE servers? Or servers were PVP is somewhat controlled? I played Planetside for over 18 months which was a great PVP environment and I had a great time! The difference was that you don't have so much to lose when you die and there were no PVE quests to get in the way of fighting other players.
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Does Eve have PVE servers? Or servers were PVP is somewhat controlled? I played Planetside for over 18 months which was a great PVP environment and I had a great time! The difference was that you don't have so much to lose when you die and there were no PVE quests to get in the way of fighting other players.
There’s only one sever in EVE (or cluster actually), but everyone plays on the same universe / realm / space / galaxy.

There are “safe zones” where “police” will annihilate an aggressor (unless players are at war). War is a declaration (that requires upkeep which is normally paid by the guild leader(s)) between groups of players and allows you to kill each other on sight without police intervention. There are ways to aggress each other without police interventions as well to do something like a “duel”.

You can still attack a player and destroy his/her ship and pod before police destroy you and your friends however. This “suicide gank” is done in the first video I linked above. This is normally done to trade a smaller loss on your part for a potential bigger loss on the target and/or net gain from cargo which a non-aggressor will loot when the battle is over. However, once the “ninja” loots, he becomes a valid target to the victim’s guild/alliance for like 15 minutes, so he has to take care not to run into them while stashing the goods. Some people would do this at a larger loss just to kill like a “guild master” or some important player just to log it on a kill site. This is where a web app allows you to upload data on each other’s kills to “keep track of score” so to speak…and flame each other in forums too!
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And you HAVE to see this trailer for this game! O__O
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And you HAVE to see this trailer for this game! O__O
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And you HAVE to see this trailer for this game! O__O
Incredible movie but what you see in the movie does not always add up in the game itself. Fingers crossed it does as I have good vibes regarding Bioware. Makes me wonder how we as gamers will fit into the overall story.
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Does anyone think Aion is a contender? A hardcore Wow friend of mine just started it so I'll get a report soon.

Right now my impression is a mmo is a mmo, and Wow is at the top of the heap. If you jut burned out on one, I'm wondering what new and exciting adventure another can really offer? I'm not sure I'm done with WoW yet. I'm taking a short break, but I still acknowledge it's the best I've played out of about 7 MMOs.

5 Reasons why Aion can take WoW- I'll believe it when I see it.
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Does anyone think Aion is a contender? A hardcore Wow friend of mine just started it so I'll get a report soon.

Right now my impression is a mmo is a mmo, and Wow is at the top of the heap. If you jut burned out on one, I'm wondering what new and exciting adventure another can really offer? I'm not sure I'm done with WoW yet. I'm taking a short break, but I still acknowledge it's the best I've played out of about 7 MMOs.
Scores are good. Not great. It doesn’t look like it has initial traction compared to how WoW started. LOTRO started with similar ratings and a lot of hype and that flopped. But you never know. EVE started as some projected loser, but now you see those flashy FLASH spaceship banners all over. Is it just me (perhaps from profile targeted advertisements), or does anyone else notice more and more EVE banners pop up at random sites. Or maybe they have an ambition campaign leading up to the EVE console FPS MMO integration.
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Does anyone think Aion is a contender? A hardcore Wow friend of mine just started it so I'll get a report soon.

Right now my impression is a mmo is a mmo, and Wow is at the top of the heap. If you jut burned out on one, I'm wondering what new and exciting adventure another can really offer? I'm not sure I'm done with WoW yet. I'm taking a short break, but I still acknowledge it's the best I've played out of about 7 MMOs.

5 Reasons why Aion can take WoW- I'll believe it when I see it.
I'm playing Aion now. It's good, but not brilliant. A lot of grind. But I still haven't reached level 25, when all the PvP begins.
I can see myself playing it on and off until Star Wars: The Old Republic or at least StarCraft II.
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