Apple Releases iWork '09 9.0.2 and MacBook Pro SMC Firmware Update 1.3

MacRumors · May 28, 2009, 05:21 PM

Apple today released a pair of software updates, one for iWork '09 users and one for MacBook Pro users.

iWork '09 9.0.2 (42.8 MB) addresses issues with saving documents and Keynote.

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This update improves reliability when saving some iWork documents and when playing some presentations more than once per Keynote session.

The update requires iWork '09 and OS X 10.4.11 or 10.5.6 or later.

MacBook Pro SMC Firmware Update 1.3 (833 KB) addresses an issue with fan behavior on 15-inch and 17-inch MacBook Pros.

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This SMC Firmware update adjusts the fan behavior in MacBook Pro systems (15-inch and 17-inch) when running under high workload conditions.

The update requires OS X 10.4.11 or 10.5.7, and Apple provides additional instructions for installing the update.

Article Link: Apple Releases iWork '09 9.0.2 and MacBook Pro SMC Firmware Update 1.3

gr8tfly · May 28, 2009, 05:25 PM

17" UB MBP (early 2009)

iWork '09 update only; no SMC update (through Software Update).

daneoni · May 28, 2009, 05:27 PM

I'm very wary of the SMC update which is why i only installed the iWork out of the two

Kilamite · May 28, 2009, 05:28 PM

Yeah, my uMBP doesn't find the SMC update either.

gr8tfly · May 28, 2009, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by daneoni

I'm very wary of the SMC update which is why i only installed the iWork out of the two

Wary and watchful here. I don't have any complaints on fan behavior whatsoever - the UB seems to be the coolest, and best behaved (fan speed wise) of any of my MBPs to date. I'm in the "wary - I'll wait and see" mode - especially since Software Update isn't showing it.

I suspect if I went ahead and manually downloaded the SMC update, it wouldn't install anyway.

(17" UB)

norsemen · May 28, 2009, 05:33 PM

My Santa Rosa MBP 2,4 GHz (June 07) found the SMC-update.

Aldaris · May 28, 2009, 05:35 PM

Running on a 2.4 Ghz MacBook Pro 15" (Late 2008).

I wonder if it's just the newer models effected, as we had SMC updates previously.

cal6n · May 28, 2009, 05:38 PM

It must be for the 8600 graphics models. Got to keep them cool under load somehow.

h0e0h · May 28, 2009, 05:45 PM

didn't find with 15" uMBP

Arkbear · May 28, 2009, 05:47 PM

I the SMC Firmware update got it on my early 2008 MPB 15" - No problems with the update. Took longer to go through the reboots than to actually apply it. Can't say that I've really done any high-stress computing since, so I haven't noticed any real change in temperature or fan action, though heat has never been a real big deal on this machine. The update appears not to break anything, surely.

juniormaj · May 28, 2009, 05:48 PM

How to determine if you need this update

gr8tfly · May 28, 2009, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by juniormaj

How to determine if you need this update

Looks like it was just updated, but still leaves out the 17" UB (early 2009). I'm pretty sure it won't require it, though. The 17" UB is version 1.42f4.

doctoree · May 28, 2009, 06:10 PM

Can someone with this update installed please make some test whether the Fans are louder and faster or not?
My early 08 MBP also found this patch and I assume it lets the fans run faster to delay the death of the GPU. It may be Apples stretegy to delay it long enough to make it fall outside of the guarantee coverage so they don't have to pay the repair. But that's a trap I'm not going to tap into, muahahah.
I'm still looking forward to a new laptop for free in two years, when Apple can't repair it any longer (due to missing parts).
Doc

mrkgoo · May 28, 2009, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by doctoree

Can someone with this update installed please make some test whether the Fans are louder and faster or not?
My early 08 MBP also found this patch and I assume it lets the fans run faster to delay the death of the GPU. It may be Apples stretegy to delay it long enough to make it fall outside of the guarantee coverage so they don't have to pay the repair. But that's a trap I'm not going to tap into, muahahah.
I'm still looking forward to a new laptop for free in two years, when Apple can't repair it any longer (due to missing parts).
Doc

That's a crazy conspiracy theory you got going there.

I installed the update. I have no idea if the fans are louder and/or faster than before.

rjheys · May 28, 2009, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by doctoree

Can someone with this update installed please make some test whether the Fans are louder and faster or not?
My early 08 MBP also found this patch and I assume it lets the fans run faster to delay the death of the GPU. It may be Apples stretegy to delay it long enough to make it fall outside of the guarantee coverage so they don't have to pay the repair. But that's a trap I'm not going to tap into, muahahah.
I'm still looking forward to a new laptop for free in two years, when Apple can't repair it any longer (due to missing parts).
Doc

I have an early 08 15" MBP, I just installed the update. I tried stressing my machine, exporting a full HD Quicktime file, and the update seems to let the machine get hotter before bumping up the fan speed. The fans usually start to spin up when it gets to about 70⁰c-75⁰c. But this time they stayed at 2000 rpm until the temp reached 87⁰c !!!!! and then slowly started speeding up. That is the hottest I have ever seen it get, nearly to hot to touch.

Stevamundo · May 28, 2009, 06:37 PM

I installed the SMC on my MBP '07. Everything is fine here.

studiomusic · May 28, 2009, 06:45 PM

I will never again update SMC firmware again unless I have problems intended to be fixed by said firmware.
The Mac Pro SMC firmware update last year turned my fans on full blast all the time. Just out of Applecare too.

alphaod · May 28, 2009, 07:03 PM

No SMC update here on a 2.53GHz 15" MacBook Pro.

cubedweller · May 28, 2009, 07:15 PM

I updated and everything appears to work fine. 15" SR MacBook Pro 2.4GHz.

Stridder44 · May 28, 2009, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by rjheys

I have an early 08 15" MBP, I just installed the update. I tried stressing my machine, exporting a full HD Quicktime file, and the update seems to let the machine get hotter before bumping up the fan speed. The fans usually start to spin up when it gets to about 70⁰c-75⁰c. But this time they stayed at 2000 rpm until the temp reached 87⁰c !!!!! and then slowly started speeding up. That is the hottest I have ever seen it get, nearly to hot to touch.

Wow I am so not installing this update. Why would they start later? That's exactly what happens in Windows on a MBP. The fans don't kick in till they really need to, making the case very warm at all times. Is Apple retarded?

JavaWizKid · May 28, 2009, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rjheys

I have an early 08 15" MBP, I just installed the update. I tried stressing my machine, exporting a full HD Quicktime file, and the update seems to let the machine get hotter before bumping up the fan speed. The fans usually start to spin up when it gets to about 70⁰c-75⁰c. But this time they stayed at 2000 rpm until the temp reached 87⁰c !!!!! and then slowly started speeding up. That is the hottest I have ever seen it get, nearly to hot to touch.

Haha they could be deliberately killing the 8600 to repair it with a better one?

JavierP · May 28, 2009, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Stridder44

Wow I am so not installing this update. Why would they start later? That's exactly what happens in Windows on a MBP. The fans don't kick in till they really need to, making the case very warm at all times. Is Apple retarded?

The new max. temperature set point seems to be 80C, but the control action is slow and it does nothing 'til the set point is reached. So it overshoots 5C here (85C). I guess this is good for winter times.

I don't know why Apple did this change. The old 70C, 75C? max was better.

noodle654 · May 28, 2009, 08:39 PM

Just installed the update on my 2.2GHz MBP.

Stridder44 · May 28, 2009, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JavierP

The new max. temperature set point seems to be 80C, but the control action is slow and it does nothing 'til the set point is reached. So it overshoots 5C here (85C). I guess this is good for winter times.

I don't know why Apple did this change. The old 70C, 75C? max was better.

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Originally Posted by JavaWizKid

Haha they could be deliberately killing the 8600 to repair it with a better one?

Seriously, I don't understand this update. Apple, please explain.

KingYaba · May 28, 2009, 09:37 PM

I think I'll hold off on the firmware update. I use smc anyway so anything that works my CPU I'm manually changing the fanspeed beforehand.

May 28, 2009, 05:25 PM	#2
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May 28, 2009, 05:27 PM	#3
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May 28, 2009, 05:28 PM	#4
Kilamite macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Scotland	Yeah, my uMBP doesn't find the SMC update either. __________________ - MacBook Pro Unibody 15" 2.8GHz 'anti-glare' - Apple TV 1TB (work in progress) - iPhone 3G 8GB - MobileMe // OS X 10.6.2

May 28, 2009, 05:35 PM	#7
Aldaris macrumors 6502 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Salt Lake City	"ALERT: This computer does not need this update" Running on a 2.4 Ghz MacBook Pro 15" (Late 2008). I wonder if it's just the newer models effected, as we had SMC updates previously. __________________ -Aldaris (The "real" Judicator) PMac G4\|PCube\|PB G4\|MBP\|iPhone and iPods Galore This is my iLife?

May 28, 2009, 05:38 PM	#8
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May 28, 2009, 05:33 PM	#6
norsemen macrumors member Join Date: Apr 2007	My Santa Rosa MBP 2,4 GHz (June 07) found the SMC-update.

May 28, 2009, 05:45 PM	#9
h0e0h macrumors 6502a Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: West Monroe, Louisiana	didn't find with 15" uMBP __________________ 2.16 C2D White iMac w/ Viewsonic 20"; 2.53GHz 15" uMBP; 10" MSI Hackintosh w/ XP; 2.4 Blackbook; 12" PB Rev. C; 1.42 G4 Mac Mini; 16GB White iPhone

May 28, 2009, 05:47 PM	#10
Arkbear macrumors newbie Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Memphis	MBP 15" 2.5 (early 2008) got the SMC update I the SMC Firmware update got it on my early 2008 MPB 15" - No problems with the update. Took longer to go through the reboots than to actually apply it. Can't say that I've really done any high-stress computing since, so I haven't noticed any real change in temperature or fan action, though heat has never been a real big deal on this machine. The update appears not to break anything, surely.

May 28, 2009, 05:48 PM	#11
juniormaj macrumors regular Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Newbury Park, CA	How to determine if you need this update

May 28, 2009, 06:10 PM	#13
doctoree macrumors regular Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Secret lair/ Earthmiddlepoint	Can someone with this update installed please make some test whether the Fans are louder and faster or not? My early 08 MBP also found this patch and I assume it lets the fans run faster to delay the death of the GPU. It may be Apples stretegy to delay it long enough to make it fall outside of the guarantee coverage so they don't have to pay the repair. But that's a trap I'm not going to tap into, muahahah. I'm still looking forward to a new laptop for free in two years, when Apple can't repair it any longer (due to missing parts). Doc __________________ I just signed my Organ Donor Card because Steve J. asked for it. That's how you know Apples marketing works!

May 28, 2009, 06:37 PM	#16
Stevamundo macrumors regular Join Date: May 2008	I installed the SMC on my MBP '07. Everything is fine here.

May 28, 2009, 06:45 PM	#17
studiomusic macrumors regular Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Round the world	I will never again update SMC firmware again unless I have problems intended to be fixed by said firmware. The Mac Pro SMC firmware update last year turned my fans on full blast all the time. Just out of Applecare too.

May 28, 2009, 07:03 PM	#18
alphaod Contributor Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LIE x37	No SMC update here on a 2.53GHz 15" MacBook Pro. __________________ Search before you post: MRoogle Mac Pro E09 (2x2.66/6x2GB/4x300GB10K/GTX285) \| Dell 3007WFP-HC (30") MacBook Air M09 (2.13/2GB/128GB) \| iPhone 3GS (32GB/White/Unlocked)

May 28, 2009, 07:15 PM	#19
cubedweller macrumors regular Join Date: Nov 2007	I updated and everything appears to work fine. 15" SR MacBook Pro 2.4GHz.

May 28, 2009, 08:39 PM	#23
noodle654 macrumors 68000 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Princeton, NJ	Just installed the update on my 2.2GHz MBP. __________________ MacBook Pro 2.2GHz, 120GB HD, 4GB RAM\| Mac Mini C2D 1.83GHz, 80GB HD, 2GB RAM \| MacBook Air 1.86GHz, 128GB SSD \| iPhone 3G S⃣ 32GB

May 28, 2009, 09:37 PM	#25
KingYaba macrumors 68040 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Stuck in a rut...	I think I'll hold off on the firmware update. I use smc anyway so anything that works my CPU I'm manually changing the fanspeed beforehand. __________________ Texas: illegally acquired; universally admired.

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