Register FAQ / Rules Forum Spy Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Go Back   MacRumors Forums > iPhone, iPod and iPad > iPhone

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old Jun 10, 2009, 08:14 AM   #1
charliecc
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
16GB vs 32GB iPhone 3GS

Firstly, this is not a thread bitching about how I can't upgrade etc, I entered an 18 month contract and I fully expected to have to see it through.

However, can someone explain why there is such a difference in price between the 16GB and 32GB phones considering they're exactly the same apart from the flash memory.

UK PAYG Prices
---------------
16GB: 440
32GB: 540

US Contract (no PAYG in US)
------------
16GB: $199
32GB: $299

Last time I looked memory was as cheap as chips, so how is this price difference justified. 100 for an extra 16GB!! 20 - 30 maybe.
charliecc is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jun 10, 2009, 08:19 AM   #2
Razeus
macrumors 68040
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Quote:
Originally Posted by charliecc View Post
Firstly, this is not a thread bitching about how I can't upgrade etc, I entered an 18 month contract and I fully expected to have to see it through.

However, can someone explain why there is such a difference in price between the 16GB and 32GB phones considering they're exactly the same apart from the flash memory.

UK PAYG Prices
---------------
16GB: 440
32GB: 540

US Contract (no PAYG in US)
------------
16GB: $199
32GB: $299

Last time I looked memory was as cheap as chips, so how is this price difference justified. 100 for an extra 16GB!! 20 - 30 maybe.
$100 difference for 2x the RAM. There's not much price differentiation at $20 for marketing purposes. Plus, figure what the RAM configs are. Two 8GB chips for 16GB are usually pretty cheap. 2 16GB chips are substanially higher, as witness when I go to by 16GB SD Cards for my DSLR compared to an 8GB card. Plus Apple wants to make a profit.
__________________
Pictures & Tweets
Razeus is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jun 10, 2009, 08:26 AM   #3
Nocaster
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by Razeus View Post
$100 difference for 2x the RAM. There's not much price differentiation at $20 for marketing purposes. Plus, figure what the RAM configs are. Two 8GB chips for 16GB are usually pretty cheap. 2 16GB chips are substanially higher, as witness when I go to by 16GB SD Cards for my DSLR compared to an 8GB card. Plus Apple wants to make a profit.
Flash memory != RAM.

I don't think the 32gig has twice the RAM as the 16gig.

If it does, I'm gonna be pretty pissed - lol
Nocaster is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jun 10, 2009, 08:30 AM   #4
charliecc
Thread Starter
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Yeah, it's not twice the RAM it's twice the storage capacity. The only difference between the 2 phones is 16GB of storage.
charliecc is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jun 10, 2009, 08:36 AM   #5
gloss
macrumors 601
 
gloss's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: around/about
Send a message via AIM to gloss
Quote:
Originally Posted by charliecc View Post
Yeah, it's not twice the RAM it's twice the storage capacity. The only difference between the 2 phones is 16GB of storage.
The cost for Apple as a company is a bit higher per phone, as they only use single chips, and 32GB chips aren't quite dirt-cheap yet. But primarily, they're maintaining the price-points of the 3G, which were proven successful. 16GB of extra storage offers plenty-good differentiation between model numbers, something that Joe Six-Pack can understand, and they will sell at those prices. To shrink the differential to something lower would be to undervalue what 'twice as much storage!' means to the average consumer.

Though the price difference in the UK is significantly larger (1.6x) than in the US, thanks to Apple's love of nice, clean increments.
__________________
when you say it's all over / hell yeah anyway
gloss is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jun 10, 2009, 08:37 AM   #6
jclardy
macrumors 68020
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
I believe iPhone only uses a single flash chip, so just one 16GB and one 32GB unlike the iPod Touch which has two, and why it usually gets double the capacity.

A single 32GB chip is significantly more expensive than a 16GB one. Looking at SD cards (which isn't really a direct comparison, but it's all I have) a 16GB one costs around $30 while a 32GB one is around $100.
__________________
Swift Fox Software | Amounts - Expense Tracker | Rocket Chimp | TargetTap Lite | TargetTap
jclardy is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jun 10, 2009, 08:37 AM   #7
Razeus
macrumors 68040
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Storage space, RAM, whatever. Doesn't change the fact that 16GB chips aren't as cheap as 8GB chips.

You knew what I meant.
__________________
Pictures & Tweets
Razeus is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jun 10, 2009, 08:42 AM   #8
dagomike
macrumors 65816
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
16 GB = $12.50/GB
32 GB = $10.67/GB

For 1/3 more money you get 2x the storage.
dagomike is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jun 10, 2009, 08:42 AM   #9
Gix1k
macrumors 68020
 
Gix1k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Quote:
Originally Posted by charliecc View Post
Yeah, it's not twice the RAM it's twice the storage capacity. The only difference between the 2 phones is 16GB of storage.

This is correct. Storage diff only.
__________________
LTE iPad Mini 2 32gb
iPad Air 32gb
iphone 5s gold 32gb
MacBook Pro Retina 13"
Gix1k is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jun 10, 2009, 08:46 AM   #10
aneftp
macrumors 68040
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Quote:
Originally Posted by jclardy View Post
I believe iPhone only uses a single flash chip, so just one 16GB and one 32GB unlike the iPod Touch which has two, and why it usually gets double the capacity.

A single 32GB chip is significantly more expensive than a 16GB one. Looking at SD cards (which isn't really a direct comparison, but it's all I have) a 16GB one costs around $30 while a 32GB one is around $100.
Exactly.

iPhone has one single slot for Flash memory.

iPod Touch has 2 slots for Flash memory.

one single 32GB flash memory costs a lot more than 2 16GB flash memory.
__________________
(late 2012) 27 in Mac 3.2 Intel Core i5 24GB RAM 1TB fusion, mid 2013 Macbook Air 256GB SSD 8GB RAM
32GB iPhone 5S, 64GB iPad LTE (Verizon) plus 64GB iPad Air
aneftp is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jun 10, 2009, 09:17 AM   #11
D3lta
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Cupertino, California
Quote:
Originally Posted by jclardy View Post
I believe iPhone only uses a single flash chip, so just one 16GB and one 32GB unlike the iPod Touch which has two, and why it usually gets double the capacity.

A single 32GB chip is significantly more expensive than a 16GB one. Looking at SD cards (which isn't really a direct comparison, but it's all I have) a 16GB one costs around $30 while a 32GB one is around $100.
Since this is the first 32GB iPhone model, wouldn't it be safe to say that Apple also updated the insides to two flash slots?
__________________
black & grey 64GB iPhone 5S on AT&T
4th gen iPad 16GB Wi-Fi
3rd gen iPad 16GB Wi-Fi + 4G LTE on Verizon
1st gen iPad 32GB Wi-Fi
D3lta is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jun 10, 2009, 09:22 AM   #12
Dimwhit
macrumors 68000
 
Dimwhit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
On another note, this has to mean that a 64GB iPod Touch is just around the corner. That's just some juicy goodness there...
__________________
iMac 2.8GHz/4GB RAM; Mac Mini 1.83GHz/1 GB RAM; iPhone 3G; MBP 2.33GHz/2GB RAM (work)
Dimwhit is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jun 10, 2009, 09:24 AM   #13
ucfgrad93
macrumors G5
 
ucfgrad93's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Colorado
Look at it this way, this time you get an extra 16GB for your hundred dollars. With the 3G, you only got an extra 8GB.
__________________
If guns kill people, do pencils misspell words?
ucfgrad93 is online now   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jun 10, 2009, 09:30 AM   #14
gloss
macrumors 601
 
gloss's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: around/about
Send a message via AIM to gloss
Quote:
Originally Posted by D3lta View Post
Since this is the first 32GB iPhone model, wouldn't it be safe to say that Apple also updated the insides to two flash slots?
Doubt it. Things were pretty tight in there to begin with.

I imagine we'll see a 64GB iPod touch in the next few months.
__________________
when you say it's all over / hell yeah anyway
gloss is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jun 10, 2009, 09:32 AM   #15
AlfaLavala
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Aberdeen, UK
If you're spending 440 what's an extra 100 for a lifetime of 16GB extra
AlfaLavala is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jun 10, 2009, 09:33 AM   #16
charliecc
Thread Starter
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
What til someone takes one of these bad boys apart and discovers all phones ship with a 32GB chip and apple have limited it in the firmware

Unlikely I know, but it's been done by other companies before. And before you ask why, to reduce production costs as they can just have a single production line.
charliecc is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jun 10, 2009, 11:02 AM   #17
AlfaLavala
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Aberdeen, UK
lol reminds me of the VCR video which has "disabled" bluray, ipod, gold and all sorts of things inside!

Actually was easy to find
AlfaLavala is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jun 10, 2009, 11:05 AM   #18
teaguecole
macrumors member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Well, in the US, the if you are a new customer, you can get the iPhone for a SUBSIDIZED price of 199 and 299. If you are in the middle of your contract it will cost you a little more, I am not sure how much but its like 400 or 500? And then if you don't want any contract it become like 600 to 700.
teaguecole is offline   0 Reply With Quote

Reply
MacRumors Forums > iPhone, iPod and iPad > iPhone

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Similar Threads
thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
iPhone 5 16GB or 32GB rpearlberg iPhone 18 Sep 27, 2012 04:18 PM
iPhone 5 : 16gb or 32gb Fadingstarx iPhone 8 Sep 18, 2012 08:56 AM

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:28 AM.

Mac Rumors | Mac | iPhone | iPhone Game Reviews | iPhone Apps

Mobile Version | Fixed | Fluid | Fluid HD
Copyright 2002-2013, MacRumors.com, LLC