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Old Jun 19, 2009, 08:08 AM   #1
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Anyone elses compass not work while in a car?

So the compass app and the compass feature in google maps does not work while Im in my car. It says there is interference and it cant calibrate. If I get out of my car it works fine.


If the metal in a car does indeed interfere with the compass..then this is completely useless. I was only happy because I thought it could tell which direction Im heading while driving..and so far that doesnt work.
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Old Jun 19, 2009, 08:09 AM   #2
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Yes mine worked after I calibrated it.
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Old Jun 19, 2009, 08:09 AM   #3
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So the compass app and the compass feature in google maps does not work while Im in my car. It says there is interference and it cant calibrate. If I get out of my car it works fine.


If the metal in a car does indeed interfere with the compass..then this is completely useless. I was only happy because I thought it could tell which direction Im heading while driving..and so far that doesnt work.
Your car is a big hunk of metal, that's what is interfering.

The compass is intended for foot use.
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Sorry...but just metal should not interfere.... Now maybe there are some electronics or an in-car compass that is interfering....but not the frame of the car.
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Old Jun 19, 2009, 08:11 AM   #5
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So the compass app and the compass feature in google maps does not work while Im in my car. It says there is interference and it cant calibrate. If I get out of my car it works fine.


If the metal in a car does indeed interfere with the compass..then this is completely useless. I was only happy because I thought it could tell which direction Im heading while driving..and so far that doesnt work.
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If you wish to mount iPhone 3G S on a car's dashboard and use Compass or Maps, do not wave the device in a figure 8 to calibrate. Instead, mount iPhone 3G S, open Compass or Maps, and disregard the message to calibrate. iPhone 3G S will eventually re-calibrate after several turns.
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Old Jun 19, 2009, 08:30 AM   #6
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How come my google maps isn't showing the direction I am pointed? I thought that was a feature

edit: NVM tap the location button twice
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Old Jun 19, 2009, 08:51 AM   #7
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Just stick your arm out the window to use the compass.
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Old Jun 19, 2009, 08:34 PM   #8
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How to RE-calibrate?

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Yes mine worked after I calibrated it.
I've read a few threads here about the compass being inaccurate. I, too, have been having issues. In maps, my location is accurate, my the direction I'm facing is like 45 degrees off.

After the initial calibration I have not been able to get the option to calibrate again. Does anyone know how to re-calibrate?

It's very minor, I know. But it's just frustrating.
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Old Jun 19, 2009, 08:43 PM   #9
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Sorry...but just metal should not interfere.... Now maybe there are some electronics or an in-car compass that is interfering....but not the frame of the car.


Apparently you don't know anything about magnetism, magnetometers or compasses. Do some research into magnetic deviation related to a compass. All boats that rely on a magnetic compass for navigation have a deviation table plotted for all points around the compass. The amount of error will be different in any particular direction. The table allows you to correct for the deviation.

A car not only has a shell of metal and a frame of metal but also a huge hunk of metal called an engine. That engine also has an alternator attached that creates it's own magnetic field. ALL of these things will interfere with the proper use of a compass. Turn off the car and you'll still have problems (electronics eliminated). Get out of and step well away from the car and the problem disappears.

The calibration will help within the car but once outside of the car it will no longer be calibrated because the same forces affecting it for the calibration are not involved.
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Old Jun 19, 2009, 09:26 PM   #10
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I don't even get the figure 8 motion...what is going on with that?

I still don't know how to get it to work in the car. I tried waiting and it does it sort of in the background but not as great as it could be (and is very wobbly)
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Old Jun 20, 2009, 10:18 PM   #11
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I don't even get the figure 8 motion...what is going on with that?
i too am really curious on what we are exactly doing when we move it in the figure 8 motion. being an electrical engineer i admit i am very nerdy with these types of electronics, but i can't come to a conclusion on what we are actually doing when we do that. i was thinking that a gyro-type device is used in conjunction with the magnetometer, but i don't see any way how moving it in a figure 8 motion is tied to a magnetic-only device.
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Old Jun 20, 2009, 11:30 PM   #12
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i too am really curious on what we are exactly doing when we move it in the figure 8 motion.
My Grand Cherokee required that I drive in a circle three times to calibrate its onboard compass.

From what I can tell, magnetometer makers have proprietary algorithms for self-calibration that you can license and use in your OS code.

My guess is the figure-8 is used to average out any magnetic anomalies around you.
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Old Jun 20, 2009, 11:37 PM   #13
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has the compass been useful for anyone yet?
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has the compass been useful for anyone yet?
Yes, for Apple trying to sell iPhones.
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