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Old Jun 19, 2009, 02:42 PM   #1
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OS X 10.5.8 Build 9L16 Seeded to Developers



Apple has seeded another new version of OS X 10.5.8 to developers, signaling continued development on what may be the final update to Leopard before OS X Snow Leopard ships in September. According to the seed notes published by World of Apple, the new version, Build 9L16, adds ten new documented fixes over the previous seed issued late last week. Changes include fixes for bugs in Bluetooth device operation and USB webcam streaming, as well as addressing freezing of the AirPort (Advanced) portion of the Network System Preferences pane.

The seed notes also list 18 focus areas upon which developers are asked to concentrate their testing efforts. One outstanding known issue, a System Preferences bug that appears on Early 2009 Mac Pros with attached USB audio devices, is also documented.

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Old Jun 19, 2009, 04:20 PM   #2
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Bluetooth!

I really hope this is pushed out fast, because the documented bluetooth bug where your moose becomes unresponsive is really annoying. especially if you use your laptop in "clamshell" mode and you have to lift the lid to use the trackpad to disable bluetooth, then re-enable it to get the device working again...

Something that effects the moose, a vital system input device, i wish they would just release a separate fix for..
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Old Jun 19, 2009, 04:37 PM   #3
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I really hope this is pushed out fast, because the documented bluetooth bug where your moose becomes unresponsive is really annoying.
Nothing's worse than an unresponsive moose.
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Old Jun 19, 2009, 04:41 PM   #4
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Old Jun 19, 2009, 04:52 PM   #5
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Wonder where Apple finds the time with all this iPhone stuff going on.

Arn, you know you're going to get static for putting this on Page 2 instead of Page 1.
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Old Jun 19, 2009, 05:18 PM   #6
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Looks like Facebook webcam recording will be fixed by this. Finally!
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Old Jun 19, 2009, 05:28 PM   #7
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Let the release date speculation begin!

I just hope it doesn't take five months like 10.5.7.
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Old Jun 19, 2009, 06:18 PM   #8
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Let the release date speculation begin!

I just hope it doesn't take five months like 10.5.7.
If it does, a good many of us will be moved onto Snow Leopard by then
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Old Jun 19, 2009, 06:32 PM   #9
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If it does, a good many of us will be moved onto Snow Leopard by then
Yeah so what's the strategy, get it out before SL or after as a treat for PPC users this will probably be there last OS.
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Old Jun 19, 2009, 07:25 PM   #10
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If it does, a good many of us will be moved onto Snow Leopard by then
Assuming Snow Leopard is out by October.
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Old Jun 19, 2009, 07:36 PM   #11
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Let the release date speculation begin!

I just hope it doesn't take five months like 10.5.7.
Agreed. 10.5.7 took too long to deliver.

I'm still hesitant about upgrading to 10.6.0 on release, might just wait to see how members here go with it first.
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Old Jun 19, 2009, 08:26 PM   #12
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No.

No no no.

System preferences still doesn't want to keep the locks locked across launch. When is that getting fixed? Tiger never had that problem for me.

Any time you wanna get around to that Apple, I'd sure appreciate it.
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Old Jun 19, 2009, 10:32 PM   #13
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I don't know what Apples official position is but I suspect they will update Leopard!

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Yeah so what's the strategy, get it out before SL or after as a treat for PPC users this will probably be there last OS.
For a while anyways. The scoop is this, they don't want to appear to be abandoning PPC users to quickly. They haven't announced a support plan yet, which is something the should do, so I have nothing official.

By the way support in this case is likely to be limited to mostly security fixes.

It really doesn't matter to me as I'm PPC free. In any event PPC users should consider the tact that most users of old PCs take. That is to install Linux and not look back. It is the only low cost path to keeping old hardware useful.

Realize I know the pain of buying new computing hardware. Let's face it it is expensive and well expensive. The problem is even with Linux you eventually get left behind as software advances or your demands do.
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Assuming Snow Leopard is out by October.
But its scheduled to be released in september... unless they will delay it :-| that would suck
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Old Jun 19, 2009, 11:10 PM   #15
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whatever. snow leopard better be good even though I am getting it for only $10
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Old Jun 19, 2009, 11:28 PM   #16
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I really hope this is pushed out fast, because the documented bluetooth bug where your mouse becomes unresponsive is really annoying. especially if you use your laptop in "clamshell" mode and you have to lift the lid to use the trackpad to disable bluetooth, then re-enable it to get the device working again...

Something that effects the moose, a vital system input device, i wish they would just release a separate fix for..
I just downloaded Apple's latest Bluetooth firmware update today. Perhaps this is the fix? I can't really check myself as I don't own a Bluetooth mouse.

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Agreed. 10.5.7 took too long to deliver.

I'm still hesitant about upgrading to 10.6.0 on release, might just wait to see how members here go with it first.
I wouldn't pay too much attention to forums. 50 people complaining on an Internet forum may seem like a lot, but it really doesn't add up to much when you consider the thousands of other users who don't have any problems at all.
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Old Jun 19, 2009, 11:29 PM   #17
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Maybe it'll fix Safari crashing all the freaking time.
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Old Jun 19, 2009, 11:41 PM   #18
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Maybe it'll fix Safari crashing all the freaking time.
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Safari 4 does seem to be a little more crash prone over 3. I haven't had FireFox crash in ages. It's slow to load up but it works.

I haven't been able to get YTMND to work in Safari for months now. It works in Stainless and I consider that to be a bizarro world browser to begin with.
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The scoop is this, they don't want to appear to be abandoning PPC users to quickly. They haven't announced a support plan yet, which is something the should do, so I have nothing official.
In the absence of specific information I guess we have to assume that support will go the same way it always has. Which is that once Snow Leopard is released, Tiger updates will cease and Leopard will get only Security Updates going forward.
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Nothing's worse than an unresponsive moose.
haha. my dog's name is moose. and he was putting his nose all up on my computer screen when I was writing that post... too funny :-)
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Old Jun 20, 2009, 02:29 AM   #22
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By the time you guys would see the about panel of Finder, you could see 10.5.8 letter under OSX 10.5.7 already. I expected the 10.5.8 update when 10.5.7 was just released. Whatever, I am welcome to wait for the 10.5.8 update.
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Old Jun 20, 2009, 02:35 AM   #23
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hope this will make Leopard as rock solid as 10.4.11, assuming its the last release.

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No.

No no no.

System preferences still doesn't want to keep the locks locked across launch. When is that getting fixed? Tiger never had that problem for me.

Any time you wanna get around to that Apple, I'd sure appreciate it.
maybe you had "Require password to unlock each System Preferences pane" ticked in Security preferences in Tiger but not in Leopard. also in non administrative accounts all the panes with padlocks are locked by default.
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I just downloaded Apple's latest Bluetooth firmware update today. Perhaps this is the fix?

Well only for those with the newer BT chips. The older ones, like in a late '06 mini, still have to deal with random keyboard disconnects, since the BT update wasn't for us.
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By the time you guys would see the about panel of Finder, you could see 10.5.8 letter under OSX 10.5.7 already. I expected the 10.5.8 update when 10.5.7 was just released. Whatever, I am welcome to wait for the 10.5.8 update.
Eh not really. That's always one step ahead i.e. it will be 10.5.9 for OS X 10.5.8 (seriously).
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