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msmth928

macrumors regular
Original poster
Jun 3, 2009
154
0
Download xbench (from the top right) install and run. Uncheck everything bar the hard disk and post your scores :apple:

I have 2 500GB 16MB Cache Seagates that both average at around 85
I have another 250GB 16MB Seagate that averages about 52 (!)
The 640GB Hitachi that came with this Mac Pro averages at 72

I ran the test 3 times for each.
 

Andrew Henry

macrumors 6502a
Mar 4, 2008
776
0
I'd tell you, but for some reason when I try to run the test on any of my 1TB WD Caviar Black drives it gives me an error! :(

:mad:
 

Tesselator

macrumors 601
Jan 9, 2008
4,601
6
Japan
Three HD154UI Samsung F2 EcoGreen drives in a RAID0:
Code:
Results	176.78	
	System Info		
		Xbench Version		1.3
		System Version		10.5.7 (9J61)
		Physical RAM		12288 MB
		Model			MacPro1,1
[U]		Drive Type		Macintosh RB2 3-Drive RAID0 [B]4.5 TB[/B] [/U]

	[U]Disk Test	[B]176.78[/B]	[/U]
		Sequential	175.77	
			Uncached Write	443.19	272.11 MB/sec [4K blocks]
			Uncached Write	479.91	271.53 MB/sec [256K blocks]
			Uncached Read	60.62	17.74 MB/sec [4K blocks]
			Uncached Read	520.48	261.59 MB/sec [256K blocks]
		Random	177.80	
			Uncached Write	73.69	7.80 MB/sec [4K blocks]
			Uncached Write	460.97	147.57 MB/sec [256K blocks]
			Uncached Read	306.47	2.17 MB/sec [4K blocks]
			Uncached Read	286.15	53.10 MB/sec [256K blocks]


1TG Western Digital "green" drive:
Code:
Results	75.72	
	System Info		
		Xbench Version		1.3
		System Version		10.5.7 (9J61)
		Physical RAM		12288 MB
		Model			MacPro1,1
[U]		Drive Type		WDC WD10EACS-00ZJB0[/U]

	[U]Disk Test	[B]75.72	[/B][/U]
		Sequential	108.37	
			Uncached Write	96.34	59.15 MB/sec [4K blocks]
			Uncached Write	118.58	67.09 MB/sec [256K blocks]
			Uncached Read	89.06	26.06 MB/sec [4K blocks]
			Uncached Read	145.55	73.15 MB/sec [256K blocks]
		Random	58.19	
			Uncached Write	22.65	2.40 MB/sec [4K blocks]
			Uncached Write	187.66	60.08 MB/sec [256K blocks]
			Uncached Read	82.74	0.59 MB/sec [4K blocks]
			Uncached Read	139.39	25.86 MB/sec [256K blocks]


Here's one from someone's Intel X25-M 80gb 2-drive RAID 0:
Code:
Results	361.12	
	System Info		
		Xbench Version		1.3
		System Version		10.5.6 (9G55)
		Physical RAM		10240 MB
		Model			MacPro3,1
[U]		Drive Type		System - X25-M 80gb 2-drive RAID0[/U]

	[U]Disk Test	[B]361.12[/B]	[/U]
		Sequential	232.24	
			Uncached Write	236.81	145.40 MB/sec [4K blocks]
			Uncached Write	206.42	116.79 MB/sec [256K blocks]
			Uncached Read	143.56	42.01 MB/sec [4K blocks]
			Uncached Read	840.16	422.26 MB/sec [256K blocks]

		Random	811.32	
			Uncached Write	876.30	92.77 MB/sec [4K blocks]
			Uncached Write	364.56	116.71 MB/sec [256K blocks]
			Uncached Read	2225.26	15.77 MB/sec [4K blocks]
			Uncached Read	1675.97	310.99 MB/sec [256K blocks]


Here's my RAMDisk:
Code:
Results	906.19	
	System Info		
		Xbench Version		1.3
		System Version		10.5.7 (9J61)
		Physical RAM		12288 MB
		Model			MacPro1,1
[U]		Drive Type		Apple read/write RAM-Drive[/U]

	[U]Disk Test	[B]906.19[/B]	[/U]
		Sequential	553.47	
			Uncached Write	415.27	254.97 MB/sec [4K blocks]
			Uncached Write	1242.03	702.74 MB/sec [256K blocks]
			Uncached Read	282.08	82.55 MB/sec [4K blocks]
			Uncached Read	2132.99	1072.02 MB/sec [256K blocks]
		Random	2498.42	
			Uncached Write	1195.78	126.59 MB/sec [4K blocks]
			Uncached Write	2303.16	737.33 MB/sec [256K blocks]
			Uncached Read	8109.22	57.46 MB/sec [4K blocks]
			Uncached Read	4825.48	895.40 MB/sec [256K blocks]
 

Cynicalone

macrumors 68040
Jul 9, 2008
3,212
0
Okie land
Bay 1 & 2 is setup in a RAID 1 with 2 WD 1TB Blacks. Bay 3 is a 1TB WD Black setup as JBOD. Bay 4 is so overloaded with crap right now I didn't even bother to test it. :)
 

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hehejames

macrumors member
Jun 9, 2009
87
0
NYC
*** Two WD 1TB Black setup as RAID 0 ***

Results 168.19
System Info
Xbench Version 1.3
System Version 10.5.7 (9J61)
Physical RAM 16384 MB
Model MacPro3,1
Drive Type Me
Disk Test 168.19
Sequential 206.01
Uncached Write 320.12 196.55 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 309.90 175.34 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 95.45 27.93 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 386.20 194.10 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 142.09
Uncached Write 58.82 6.23 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 769.30 246.28 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 176.15 1.25 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 239.75 44.49 MB/sec [256K blocks]



*** WD 500GB SE16 ***

Results 84.74
System Info
Xbench Version 1.3
System Version 10.5.7 (9J61)
Physical RAM 16384 MB
Model MacPro3,1
Drive Type WDC WD5000AAKS-41YGA1
Disk Test 84.74
Sequential 129.24
Uncached Write 135.04 82.92 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 133.91 75.76 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 102.86 30.10 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 157.35 79.08 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 63.04
Uncached Write 24.03 2.54 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 202.91 64.96 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 95.75 0.68 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 154.46 28.66 MB/sec [256K blocks]
 

VirtualRain

macrumors 603
Aug 1, 2008
6,304
118
Vancouver, BC
Here's my pair of X25-M's in RAID0... :D

Code:
Results	438.45	
	System Info		
		Xbench Version		1.3
		System Version		10.5.7 (9J61)
		Physical RAM		6144 MB
		Model		MacPro4,1
		Drive Type		Intel SSD RAID0
	Disk Test	438.45	
		Sequential	286.82	
			Uncached Write	276.71	169.90 MB/sec [4K blocks]
			Uncached Write	253.02	143.16 MB/sec [256K blocks]
			Uncached Read	189.87	55.57 MB/sec [4K blocks]
			Uncached Read	898.12	451.39 MB/sec [256K blocks]
		Random	930.26	
			Uncached Write	1095.54	115.98 MB/sec [4K blocks]
			Uncached Write	417.89	133.78 MB/sec [256K blocks]
			Uncached Read	2346.21	16.63 MB/sec [4K blocks]
			Uncached Read	1760.86	326.74 MB/sec [256K blocks]

Here's a single 1TB WD Black (stock drive that came with my Mac Pro)...

Code:
Results	98.60	
	System Info		
		Xbench Version		1.3
		System Version		10.5.7 (9J61)
		Physical RAM		6144 MB
		Model		MacPro4,1
		Drive Type		WDC WD1001FALS-41K1B0
	Disk Test	98.60	
		Sequential	168.08	
			Uncached Write	175.09	107.50 MB/sec [4K blocks]
			Uncached Write	172.29	97.48 MB/sec [256K blocks]
			Uncached Read	132.69	38.83 MB/sec [4K blocks]
			Uncached Read	210.66	105.88 MB/sec [256K blocks]
		Random	69.77	
			Uncached Write	24.85	2.63 MB/sec [4K blocks]
			Uncached Write	318.09	101.83 MB/sec [256K blocks]
			Uncached Read	115.63	0.82 MB/sec [4K blocks]
			Uncached Read	188.95	35.06 MB/sec [256K blocks]
 

VirtualRain

macrumors 603
Aug 1, 2008
6,304
118
Vancouver, BC
Bay 1 & 2 is setup in a RAID 1 with 2 WD 1TB Blacks. Bay 3 is a 1TB WD Black setup as JBOD. Bay 4 is so overloaded with crap right now I didn't even bother to test it. :)

Interesting, my Random Write on a WD 1TB Black is 101MB/s, while yours is 24MB/s. :confused:

At any rate, assuming Diskbench is any good, you can see the impact on write performance running RAID1 in your case. There doesn't appear to be any improvement in read performance so I guess we can conclude that OSX software RAID does not use read optimization on RAID1 arrays.
 

VirtualRain

macrumors 603
Aug 1, 2008
6,304
118
Vancouver, BC
For those following Tesselator's and my debate on the merits of SSD's here's a quick comparison of his 3-drive RAID0 of hard drives to my 2-drive RAID0 of SSD's...

Code:
Sequential	Magnetic	SSD	Difference
	Uncached Write	272.11	169.90	-38%
	Uncached Write	271.53	143.16	-47%
	Uncached Read	17.74	55.57	+313%
	Uncached Read	261.59	451.39	+173%
Random			
	Uncached Write	7.80	115.98	+1,487%
	Uncached Write	147.57	133.78	-9%
	Uncached Read	2.17	16.63	+766%
	Uncached Read	53.10	326.74	+615%

While SSD's suck in $/GB, they definitely perform on read operations like no-body's business :)
 

Cynicalone

macrumors 68040
Jul 9, 2008
3,212
0
Okie land
Interesting, my Random Write on a WD 1TB Black is 101MB/s, while yours is 24MB/s. :confused:

At any rate, assuming Diskbench is any good, you can see the impact on write performance running RAID1 in your case. There doesn't appear to be any improvement in read performance so I guess we can conclude that OSX software RAID does not use read optimization on RAID1 arrays.

That is with the Apple RAID card. I know slow, so slow.
 

pustiu

macrumors newbie
Apr 12, 2009
1
0
here's mine with a single X25-M as boot drive
 

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Tesselator

macrumors 601
Jan 9, 2008
4,601
6
Japan
Code:
[B][U]*** Two WD 1TB Black setup as RAID 0 ***[/U][/B]

Results	168.19	
	System Info		
		Xbench Version		1.3
		System Version		10.5.7 (9J61)
		Physical RAM		16384 MB
		Model		MacPro3,1
		Drive Type		Me
	Disk Test	168.19	
		Sequential	206.01	
			Uncached Write	320.12	196.55 MB/sec [4K blocks]
			Uncached Write	309.90	175.34 MB/sec [256K blocks]
			Uncached Read	95.45	27.93 MB/sec [4K blocks]
			Uncached Read	386.20	194.10 MB/sec [256K blocks]
		Random	142.09	
			Uncached Write	58.82	6.23 MB/sec [4K blocks]
			Uncached Write	769.30	246.28 MB/sec [256K blocks]
			Uncached Read	176.15	1.25 MB/sec [4K blocks]
			Uncached Read	239.75	44.49 MB/sec [256K blocks]



For those following Tesselator's and my debate on the merits of SSD's here's a quick comparison of his 3-drive RAID0 of hard drives to my 2-drive RAID0 of SSD's...

Code:
Sequential	Magnetic	SSD	Difference
	Uncached Write	272.11	169.90	-38%
	Uncached Write	271.53	143.16	-47%
	Uncached Read	17.74	55.57	+313%
	Uncached Read	261.59	451.39	+173%
Random			
	Uncached Write	7.80	115.98	+1,487%
	Uncached Write	147.57	133.78	-9%
	Uncached Read	2.17	16.63	+766%
	Uncached Read	53.10	326.74	+615%

While SSD's suck in $/GB, they definitely perform on read operations like no-body's business :)

Not really a good comparrison tho. As I keep reminding everyone my 3-Drive RAID is composed of F2 EcoGREEN drives. Look at the 2-drive Black above. That scored 170 (about the same as my 3 green drives) and with a 3rd drive will probably be 250 ~ 275. That will be the same as aibo's results here:

here's mine with a single X25-M as boot drive full results

Disk Test
267.07

Also you kinda left out the fact that your scores here are from two SSDs in RAID0 @ $700. Our discussion was over a $300 budget. One SSD compared to a 3-drive RAID0 of rotational media. :p

And hehejames's black drives aren't even 500GB Platters. Wait 4 to 6 months till 500GB platters ship in non-green type units and likely a good 3-drive RAID will kick butt. :D But anyway I think these scores here show very clearly the points I was making in the other thread. The two are about the same but in the case of the RAID you additionally get a capacity that you can really use. Both are good to have over a single drive! Both are fast! And if you're rich enough to go for an SSD in the 1st place just RAID0 three of the 250GB SSD units and no one will be able to touch you in any benchmark. :p Of course it'll be $2,000 but hey... :)

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aibo

macrumors 6502a
Jan 17, 2008
506
114
Southern California
And aibo's black drives aren't even 500GB Platters. Wait 4 to 6 months till 500GB platters ship in non-green type units and likely a good 3-drive RAID will kick butt. :D But anyway I think these scores here show very clearly the points I was making in the other thread. The two are about the same but in the case of the RAID you additionally get a capacity that you can really use. Both are good to have over a single drive! Both are fast! And if you're rich enough to go for an SSD in the 1st place just RAID0 three of the 250GB SSD units and no one will be able to touch you in any benchmark. :p Of course it'll be $2,000 but hey... :)

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I don't have caviar black drives... and I don't see any need to ever go RAID again, after experiencing SSD. One single $320 SSD is outperforming your 3-drive RAID setup.
 

Shake 'n' Bake

macrumors 68020
Mar 2, 2009
2,186
2
Albany
My mid-'07 mini's internal, called "Macintosh HD," scored a whopping 24.96! That's with the stock 120 GB HDD.

The external, connected via FW 400, scored 41.38. It is a Maxtor One Touch 4 Plus.

My PowerMac G4 DA's internal, called "Alpha," scored 34.93. "Alpha" is the stock 60 GB HDD. The other internal, called "Beta," scored 28.41. "Beta" is a 40 GB Maxtor pulled from a Dell Dimension 4300S.
 

Flash SWT

macrumors 6502
Mar 14, 2009
459
23
Houston, TX
Two Seagate 750GB ST3750330NS in a RAID 1 mirror:
Code:
Results	69.43	
	System Info		
		Xbench Version		1.3
		System Version		10.5.7 (9J61)
		Physical RAM		8192 MB
		Model		MacPro4,1
		Drive Type		Mac RAID 1
	Disk Test	69.43	
		Sequential	120.21	
			Uncached Write	157.54	96.73 MB/sec [4K blocks]
			Uncached Write	154.30	87.30 MB/sec [256K blocks]
			Uncached Read	80.77	23.64 MB/sec [4K blocks]
			Uncached Read	123.99	62.31 MB/sec [256K blocks]
		Random	48.81	
			Uncached Write	15.70	1.66 MB/sec [4K blocks]
			Uncached Write	272.57	87.26 MB/sec [256K blocks]
			Uncached Read	112.40	0.80 MB/sec [4K blocks]
			Uncached Read	175.87	32.63 MB/sec [256K blocks]

Stock Western Digital 640GB Blue:
Code:
Results	75.70	
	System Info		
		Xbench Version		1.3
		System Version		10.5.7 (9J61)
		Physical RAM		8192 MB
		Model		MacPro4,1
		Drive Type		WDC WD6400AAKS-41H2B0
	Disk Test	75.70	
		Sequential	148.98	
			Uncached Write	160.87	98.77 MB/sec [4K blocks]
			Uncached Write	159.83	90.43 MB/sec [256K blocks]
			Uncached Read	108.70	31.81 MB/sec [4K blocks]
			Uncached Read	193.16	97.08 MB/sec [256K blocks]
		Random	50.75	
			Uncached Write	17.25	1.83 MB/sec [4K blocks]
			Uncached Write	223.91	71.68 MB/sec [256K blocks]
			Uncached Read	96.07	0.68 MB/sec [4K blocks]
			Uncached Read	167.32	31.05 MB/sec [256K blocks]

Western Digital 1.5 TB WD15EADS gives an error and won't test.


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lemonade-maker

macrumors 6502
Jun 20, 2009
497
4
Three Seagate 1.5

Results 181.85
System Info
Xbench Version 1.3
System Version 10.x
Physical RAM 16384 MB
Model MacPro4,1
Drive Type Earth
Disk Test 181.85
Sequential 269.43
Uncached Write 495.98 304.53 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 604.42 341.98 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 102.31 29.94 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 713.49 358.59 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 137.24
Uncached Write 53.73 5.69 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 369.70 118.35 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 245.59 1.74 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 266.12 49.38 MB/sec [256K blocks]
 
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