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Old Jun 22, 2009, 01:53 PM   #1
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Turn-by-Turn GPS Apps Begin to Appear: Gokivo, Sygic, Navigon



With the launch of iPhone OS 3.0 last week, many users have been looking forward to the release of turn-by-turn GPS navigation apps. While TomTom for iPhone garnered the most publicity due to its demo as part of the keynote presentation at Apple's Worldwide Developers Conference earlier this month, several other companies have been developing similar apps and rushing to bring them to the App Store.

Last week, Gokivo + Yahoo! Local Search [App Store, $0.99 plus $9.99/month subscription] appeared in the App Store, offering turn-by-turn GPS navigation in the United States based on Yahoo! Maps. Gokivo initially received a tremendous amount of criticism, as its App Store description gave no indication that an additional $9.99/month subscription was required in order to access turn-by-turn guidance. The App Store description has since been updated to clearly reflect which features are accessible with the $0.99 base version and which require the monthly subscription. Gokivo has received mixed reviews at best so far, with the nearly $120/year subscription price tag also remaining a significant stumbling block for many users.

Sygic last week also released two GPS applications for Australia/New Zealand and Southeast Asia. MobileMaps Australia & New Zealand [App Store, US$64.99] utilizes data from Telstra's Whereis service to offer thorough turn-by-turn GPS functionality throughout Australia and New Zealand, while MobileMaps Asia - South-East [App Store, US$79.99] uses data from Tele Atlas to offer navigation in Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore and Thailand.

The most recent major entrant to the turn-by-turn GPS iPhone app scene is Navigon, whose MobileNavigator Europe [App Store, US$94.99 through the end of June] application offers navigation in 40 European countries. While the current full European version is priced at 74.99, the price will increase to 99.99 as of July. Navigon will also soon be offering apps covering smaller European regions for the introductory price of 49.99, increasing to 69.99 as of July. Navigon is also planning to release a free "lite" version that will provide maps and point-of-interest listing, but no active navigation. Finally, Navigon promises that it is continuing to work on similar apps for other regions, including North America and Australia, and has released a brief video demonstrating MobileNavigator Europe in action.



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Old Jun 22, 2009, 02:03 PM   #2
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I'm gonna have to wait for Tom Tom, seems much more stable and a better all around system. Still don't under stand the big hoopla around turn by turn tho, the map app already on the iPhone works amazing for me and if I take a wrong turn I can just re-calibrate the directions by hitting current location.
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Old Jun 22, 2009, 02:04 PM   #3
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While the above solutions (a small iPhone app which uses online maps through your 3G data connection) sounds nice, it really isn't. I have been traveling through Australia, New Zealand and the USA the past year and there are huge areas without cellular reception traveling through Australia, let alone data connections. Same goes for New Zealand. Also, I traveled from West Coast to East Coast in the USA and there were several states where I couldn't get an AT&T cellular connection with my San Francisco bought AT&T pre-paid card which I had bought with the assumption AT&T had coverage in every state. Bad assumption... So if you rely on online maps you're pretty much out of luck when navigating through less densely populated areas (or areas with less or no cellular reception)... I was very very happy with my TomTom ONE XL in Australia, New Zealand and the USA...

I would expect TomTom to release an iPhone application either including a local map and doing in-app purchases of additional maps which you then download over the air and store on your phone. Then you can always use navigation on the road, no matter how remote you are....

That's indeed what they suggest on their site:

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I would guess the TomTom App will be sold with a country / state map as regional maps (US, Europe, etc) tend to get quite large (over / around 1 GB) and I'm pretty sure telco's will not be happy if people download those large maps over the air Probably you'll just buy TomTom with a country map, and do in-app purchases of a next map (country / state) you would like to visit.

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Old Jun 22, 2009, 02:07 PM   #4
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Still don't under stand the big hoopla around turn by turn tho, the map app already on the iPhone works amazing for me and if I take a wrong turn I can just re-calibrate the directions by hitting current location.
Presumably you're not driving then.
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Old Jun 22, 2009, 02:11 PM   #5
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I'm gonna have to wait for Tom Tom, seems much more stable and a better all around system. Still don't under stand the big hoopla around turn by turn tho, the map app already on the iPhone works amazing for me and if I take a wrong turn I can just re-calibrate the directions by hitting current location.
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The Navigon one looks tempting but think I will hold out and see what like the Tom Tom app will be like and the price!!

Its a shame that it doesn't look at all likely that Garmin will be making an app, with their GPS navigation phone coming out some time maybe this year, maybe next. They seem to be having difficulties with it.
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Old Jun 22, 2009, 02:16 PM   #7
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While I had really hoped to see either TomTom or Navigon release their standalone product for the U.S. before the start of my vacation trip (July 3rd), I have a feeling it'll be closer to the end of July/early August. Hopefully I'm wrong...

Price-wise, I've always expected the navigation apps to cost around $100. It's still cheaper than most standalone units and I don't have to worry about carrying/hiding another device. Further, its a lot cheaper than the built-in solutions, and more convenient.
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Old Jun 22, 2009, 02:24 PM   #8
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I'm gonna have to wait for Tom Tom, seems much more stable and a better all around system. Still don't under stand the big hoopla around turn by turn tho, the map app already on the iPhone works amazing for me and if I take a wrong turn I can just re-calibrate the directions by hitting current location.
The map app is fine when you have nothing else to do but stare at the screen. Country roads, highways, that kind of thing, where you barely need a map at all. Get into any kind of real traffic or even close to city driving, however, and it's worthless. Get on a motorcycle and it's totally worthless at all times. I've never used it and now that there are finally some real apps showing up, I'm sure I never will use it. I'm totally psyched for a real TBT app!
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Old Jun 22, 2009, 02:29 PM   #9
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With all the built in GPS features in phones nowadays, who needs TomTom? They should come out with an iphone app which would make their popularity grow in the gadget community and in turn would make them more money.
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While I had really hoped to see either TomTom or Navigon release their standalone product for the U.S. before the start of my vacation trip (July 3rd), I have a feeling it'll be closer to the end of July/early August. Hopefully I'm wrong...

Price-wise, I've always expected the navigation apps to cost around $100. It's still cheaper than most standalone units and I don't have to worry about carrying/hiding another device. Further, its a lot cheaper than the built-in solutions, and more convenient.
Looks like you're in luck if you're coming to Europe for your hollidays:

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Available from the AppStore, Navigon will cost you 74.99 €, including all Europe maps, for worth 1.65 GB of data!
Still a lot of data, as TomTom's Western & Central Europe map (for the ONE XL) is 1233.9 MB

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With all the built in GPS features in phones nowadays, who needs TomTom? They should come out with an iphone app which would make their popularity grow in the gadget community and in turn would make them more money.
ehm... that's what they are doing? Releasing a TomTom iPhone app and dock?

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A turn by turn program really should have it's own dock and speaker... the stock iPhone speakerphone is TERRIBLE!!!
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Old Jun 22, 2009, 02:59 PM   #13
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way too much money per month for these things.

Yes, if you are a salesman or on the road every day...definitely..
but for an average college-aged or 20 something....paying a monthly rate is lousy.

i would buy it if it was a flat 50-60 bucks...but not 120 a year with a indefinite timeline.
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Old Jun 22, 2009, 03:03 PM   #14
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ehm... that's what they are doing? Releasing a TomTom iPhone app and dock?

Cant wait for TomTom. I pray its not subscription based. Thats lame!
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Old Jun 22, 2009, 03:04 PM   #15
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way too much money per month for these things.

Yes, if you are a salesman or on the road every day...definitely..
but for an average college-aged or 20 something....paying a monthly rate is lousy.

i would buy it if it was a flat 50-60 bucks...but not 120 a year with a indefinite timeline.
Only one of the products listed above has a subscription fee.
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TomTom sucks in the States

Why do you think TomTom is a better apps? I have tried TomTom before and it sucked big time here in California. It has the oldest map database out there. It would tell you to enter and exist a freeway by numbers which we don't have here in California, Northern California that is. You will be sorry if you buy TomTom I think.


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Old Jun 22, 2009, 03:15 PM   #17
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I hope they consider new pricing with the iPhone. As already proven with the regular apps, prices have been lower than any phone in the past, yet more profit than ever before.

If TomTom goes with a standard $99+, or another software keeps that monthly $10, they may be shooting themselves in the foot. This isn't a regular phone with a small market like some random phone model, this is a whole new ballgame and they better price things right or they'll lost an opportunity to rake in the cash.

I already have a GPS unit, and I might use once a month, maybe every two months. So $10 a month is way too much for a plan. It's a great price for those that really need such a service, but why price it for the few that need when they have have millions of iPhone users that would have it for the convenience if they lowered it considerably. And $99 for TomTom, well, I like that the real GPS unit I have is not tied to any device, it stands alone. So paying that much on any phone is a lot. And they're window suction dock, great, but illegal in CA. I'd have to imagine if they say they went with $99, that if they chose to go with $50 they'd get double, or even more users, and that means more than would buy the hardware too. And can you return such an expensive APP like TomTom if it doesn't work well in your area, or has bad maps? Too much to take a chance.
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.........expensive APP like TomTom if it doesn't work well in your area, or has bad maps? Too much to take a chance.
A limited time trial version / ad supported, or something would be a good idea to get people to try before they buy.

I will def buy the Tom Tom app if it is reasonably priced. I wouldn't mind 1st 3 states / regions for $50 + $10 each additonal state etc.
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All I can say is the Tom Tom for iPhone app had better not be subscription based and better not cost anymore than 40 as you can buy a tom tom gps device itself for 80 which comes with software already. I know the iPhone is a new device I just hope they do it right and release some more details soon or even a pre-order thing!
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I'm all ready to snatch up the TomTom app as soon as it's available IF it doesn't have a monthly service fee. That will be a HUGE scam if they charge a monthly fee. I'll be buying the hardware along with it so I'm hoping they consider all that.

Additional monthly service is bad.
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waiting on Garmin... In my experience and IMO, Garmin > Tom Tom in the US... if Garmin doesn't develop an app, then I may have to settle with Tom Tom
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waiting on Garmin... In my experience and IMO, Garmin > Tom Tom in the US... if Garmin doesn't develop an app, then I may have to settle with Tom Tom
Garmin has already stated they are not working on an app for the iPhone.
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While I had really hoped to see either TomTom or Navigon release their standalone product for the U.S. before the start of my vacation trip (July 3rd), I have a feeling it'll be closer to the end of July/early August. Hopefully I'm wrong...

Price-wise, I've always expected the navigation apps to cost around $100. It's still cheaper than most standalone units and I don't have to worry about carrying/hiding another device. Further, its a lot cheaper than the built-in solutions, and more convenient.
I am waiting for TomTom as well. I believe they will release their app any day now. The reason why its because people like you and me who are going for summer trips etc, who need navigation in their iPhones now. Plus competition are already is here so stay patient for next few days and you will get your TomTom.
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I have one thing to say to all these subscription and high priced apps for turn by turn. "Good luck with that!"

Buy a standalone or wait until these fools realize they need to change their business model. They can't just remove the hardware from the equation and think they can garner a $100 price tag. $10-20 and they'd sell millions. Just like all the other apps on the store. The first one to bite the bullet will sell so many it's ridiculous and the others will follow suit.

Don't be an early adopter of this.
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