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Old Jun 1, 2004, 10:57 AM   #1
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New PowerMac Model?

As noted in several places on the internet (Thread, Thread), there appears to be a PowerMac model listed in Mac OS X 10.3.4.

The new machine is listed as "PowerMac 8,1" and is found in the Info.plist file in the system's extensions directory.

This model was reportedly not found in Mac OS X 10.3.3..
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Old Jun 1, 2004, 11:02 AM   #2
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Wow, a new PowerMac is coming soon after a year of no updates? What a shock.

I'd be impressed with this "rumor" if there were some details.
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Old Jun 1, 2004, 11:04 AM   #3
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Let's hope it's a 3Ghz flavor and Steve doesn't have to own up to an error in chip speed prediction ability.
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Talking New Models?

When did people start speculating about an upgrade? The G5's just came out!

I must have missed something!


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Wow, a new PowerMac is coming soon after a year of no updates? What a shock.

I'd be impressed with this "rumor" if there were some details.
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Old Jun 1, 2004, 11:05 AM   #5
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holy yawn Batman.
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Old Jun 1, 2004, 11:07 AM   #6
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PM updates aren't much of a suprise. The question should be what will be contained in them. Will we see the G5 hit 3Ghz? Dual Layer DVD Burners? More than 256 MB of RAM standard on the slowest PM?
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Old Jun 1, 2004, 11:08 AM   #7
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the rumor part of this is....

not only is it listed as a new model, it's in /System/Library/Extensions/AppleMacRISC4PE.kext/ - which the funny part of is the 4PE, meaning, if I understand this right, a 4 processor usage. That could be quite interesting...

This rumor also popped up at Macbidouille, where their author suggested it may be a G5 imac instead of a PowerMac.
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Old Jun 1, 2004, 11:11 AM   #8
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anyone know the number for the current dual 2ghz powermac if this "new one" is 8.1?
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Old Jun 1, 2004, 11:11 AM   #9
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As noted in several places on the internet (Thread, Thread), there appears to be a PowerMac model listed in Mac OS X 10.3.4.

The new machine is listed as "PowerMac 8,1" and is found in the Info.plist file in the system's extensions directory.

This model was reportedly not found in Mac OS X 10.3.3..
Didn’t people same the same thing when 10.3.3 came out?

Does this really mean anything?
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Old Jun 1, 2004, 11:13 AM   #10
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not only is it listed as a new model, it's in /System/Library/Extensions/AppleMacRISC4PE.kext/ - which the funny part of is the 4PE, meaning, if I understand this right, a 4 processor usage. That could be quite interesting...

This rumor also popped up at Macbidouille, where their author suggested it may be a G5 imac instead of a PowerMac.
excellent


would that mean they would have numa support?
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Old Jun 1, 2004, 11:14 AM   #11
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while we are all fairly certain that new g5's are on the way, this is intersting because it probably means instant or almost instant availability upon announcement, due to it being noted in 10.3.4, which likely won't have a lifespan more than 2 months or so.
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Old Jun 1, 2004, 11:15 AM   #12
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Nothing to see here....

Move along. Move along...
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Old Jun 1, 2004, 11:15 AM   #13
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I think the same sort of thing happened with the new PBs...

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Old Jun 1, 2004, 11:16 AM   #14
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The new machine is listed as "PowerMac 8,1"...
sweet! a G8 PowerMac!! or does that mean it's running at 8.1GHz?? or does that just mean it's a slow rumors day?

oh well, more things to speculate before WWDC...
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anyone know the number for the current dual 2ghz powermac if this "new one" is 8.1?
Good question. I was wondering the same thing.

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not only is it listed as a new model, it's in /System/Library/Extensions/AppleMacRISC4PE.kext/ - which the funny part of is the 4PE, meaning, if I understand this right, a 4 processor usage. That could be quite interesting...

This rumor also popped up at Macbidouille, where their author suggested it may be a G5 imac instead of a PowerMac.
They're going to release a 4 processor iMac!!



This is the biggest non-event ever! Like I always say, updated G5 rumours aren't rumours. They're inevitabilities.
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I am absolutely loving all of these cynical and nonplussed reactions from people, too funny.
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Old Jun 1, 2004, 11:22 AM   #17
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yeah not a surprise.. now how long is it gonna take till we know the specs? a couple of hours before the keynote or a couple of days before? i'm guessing rather the first one. let's hope those kickass specs posted here a while back are true :))
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Old Jun 1, 2004, 11:23 AM   #18
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A previous 10.3 update listed a new powermac model nr as well.. don't know the exact model nr though, but we have yet to see that one appear in reality.. And now there seems to be another one? or are these numbers the same, if yes, than this rumor isn't worth much...

but hey, any person could guess powermac updates are on the way..but we all know what the question is either :-) but only steve knows the answer I guess...
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Old Jun 1, 2004, 11:24 AM   #19
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previous number?

Macbidouille.com user's found numbers previously... And no Mac follow...

we have a 7,3 ? G5= 7,2, G4 = 3,x

In french:

"La mise à jour 10.3.3 comportait déjà elle aussi un code inconnu jusqu'ici : Power Mac 7,3. Aucune machine frappée de la pomme n'a encore porté ce nom de code. En effet, la série de Powermac actuelle (les G5 quoi) ont pour nom de code Power Mac 7,2. Il faut savoir que les Powermac G4 répondaient eux au nom de code Power Mac 3,x, les Cubes au nom Power Mac 5,1 et les iMac TFT et eMac quant à eux aux noms Power Mac 4,x et 6,x... la liste complète de ces noms de codes se trouve ici : http://www.theapplemuseum.com/index....bpage=newworld

Or, si l'on regarde maintenant un peu plus la mise à jour 10.3.4, on s'aperçoit qu'il y est fait mention d'un Power Mac 8,1 , ce qui laisse penser qu'il ne s'agit pas du tout d'une mise à niveau mineure mais d'une toute nouvelle machine !

On trouve aussi la référence SMU_Neo2, ce qui peut aussi laisser penser que Neo2 serait une nouvelle version du processeur. Ce qui est certain c'est que Neo2 serait un dérivé du processeur G5 actuel. Mais il est encore difficile d'affirmer qu'il s'agisse d'une version allégée (comme les 970fx des serveurs Xserve) ou boostée (!!!).

Si vous voulez en savoir plus, faites la mise à jour 10.3.4, ouvrez ce fichier :
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Contents/info.plist
et faites une recherche avec pour objet "8,1".

Sachant justement que les Powermac G5 et les iMac n'ont pas été revus depuis longtemps, on peut en déduire ce qu'on en veut... ;-)

Je vous laisse rêver... (pour moi le 8,1 est un iMac G5 nouveau design, pour fin juin. Le 7,3 quant à lui sera le powermac G5 mis à jour, même date)."

source: http://www.macbidouille.com

English version of bidouille:
http://www.hardmac.com/

If you can translate the post, writing in english is not easy for me! :-)
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Old Jun 1, 2004, 11:27 AM   #20
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I would guess this is bad news. Only one new model listed. This is not a good sign. Maybe this will be a quad processor unit because they did not hit the 3GHz limit.
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Old Jun 1, 2004, 11:27 AM   #21
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check theapplemuseum.com for the existing model numbers the apple museum
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Old Jun 1, 2004, 11:28 AM   #22
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Ok, the 8 needs to be interpreted as follows..

2^3=8

2 stands for the current top-Ghz model and 3 stands for the future top-Ghz model.
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Old Jun 1, 2004, 11:28 AM   #23
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Well, in 10.3.3 there was a new powermac model nr:

7.3, and we haven't seen one with that number yet.
and as I mentioned before, already a new number pops up..

thread : http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=64650
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Old Jun 1, 2004, 11:29 AM   #24
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if they indeed release a 4-processor PM, my guess would be it isn't 4x3GHz.. All in all I don't really believe it's gonna be a quad proc machine.. then again I don't know crap about what can and cannot be done (or rather what's wise of apple and what's not).
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Since there is a chance that 10.3.4 might be the last update to Panther, this only means that we'll see new models between now and year's end (i.e. the release of Tiger).
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