Macrumors is set to pass up Team MacOS X

[Mustang Mac]

As far as I was aware, folding is all about benefiting others, but your sig makes it sound like it's all about you. Is that the image Team Mac OSX want to project?

Ouch. Well obviously you have not taken the time to visit the Folding Community forum, or any other folding forum for that matter. Some people are proud of what they have accomplished. Spent time, money, and effort helping the cause. Yes it is about benefitting others, but not at the cost of others. At your OWN cost, or at the very least express permission with no hidden files and unknown installers. Clear the air and keep it clear. Works for me.

[MrMacMan]

Oh please.
Please please please.


He never meant to do any harm, there was a mistaken .msi file that was released on a P2P network, but alas that machienes that he just installed on were not by the P2P file, it was all of the computers he has installed it on recentally.

[mvc]

Originally Posted by Mustang Mac

Ouch. Well obviously you have not taken the time to visit the Folding Community forum, or any other folding forum for that matter. Some people are proud of what they have accomplished. Spent time, money, and effort helping the cause. Yes it is about benefitting others, but not at the cost of others. At your OWN cost, or at the very least express permission with no hidden files and unknown installers. Clear the air and keep it clear. Works for me.

You have every right to be proud of your effort, which is exceptional, but if Jethroteds is legitimate, so does he. Will you be happy for him and F@H?

I guess my point is if it all turns out that way it will look, at least in this thread, like you have a very severe dose of sour grapes, because your competitive pride in your effort is the main message you are giving in your sig.

[adamjay]

back to the subject at hand... macrumors is set to pass team macos x..
this is a fact!, i've been checking the overclocking.com overtake charts and Team MacOS X is now in the green, or in our sights!

our 24 hour average is growing rapidly, and there are currently 8 teams in our overtake sights. i have no doubt things will only get better, so keep folding guys and gals! as soon as the next revision hits, i'll be adding a Dual 2+GHz G5 to the arsenal, and possibly an Athlon.

and mustang mac, please try not to fart on the throne too much, we'll be taking that back soon enough.

[Mustang Mac]

Originally Posted by adamjay

and mustang mac, please try not to fart on the throne too much, we'll be taking that back soon enough.

Sorry. Too late. Besides, I figured you for a fart smeller! OOOPS! I meant smart feller!

[adamjay]

Originally Posted by Mustang Mac

Sorry. Too late. Besides, I figured you for a fart smeller! OOOPS! I meant smart feller!

aha! touche' !!

anyways, have a Pheasant Plucking Day

[Mustang Mac]

That's right! You mess with the best, you get plucked like the rest! Here is a little historical information that would be best committed to memory.

The puzzler was: What was this body part? This is the answer: which clears up some profound questions of etymology, folklore and emotional symbolism. The body part which the French proposed to cut off of the English after defeating them was, of course, the MIDDLE FINGER, without which it is impossible to draw the renowned English longbow. This famous weapon was made of the native English yew tree, and so the act of drawing the longbow was known as plucking yew. Thus, when the victorious English waved their middle fingers at the defeated French, they said, See, we can still pluck yew! PLUCK YEW!

PS - PLUCK YEW TOO!

[Dreadnought]

We're gaining, we're gaining, we're gaining!

[adamjay]

indeed. i say definitely within 1 week we will regain the crown.

of course, by then it will be all sticky and smell like peanut butter.

[VijayPande]

Hi,

I just wanted to give your team a heads up on what's going on here out of respect for all of your contributions to F@H. There will be an official message tomorrow, but I wanted you to get advance information and hear it from me directly, rather than second hand.

Our logs prove that Jethroted's installer has gotten released way out of control on about 1000 CPUs that he clearly does not have the authorization to use (the IPs are scattered across virutally every different possible ISP). The large number of clients did not show up in the stats pages since all had the same MachineID.

Also, upon examining the installer, it has several aspects whose only goal is to fool the unwitting downloader into thinking that the Adobe install failed, but gives no information about Folding@Home. This is more than an .msi file which "somehow" got released to Limewire, etc. This has all the looks of a well-crafted plan. If you have any doubts, check out his installer for yourself. This is a very different situation than simply a team's specific installer, but something which can get people into very serious legal trouble and bring discredit to the project as a whole.

We have stopped all of Jethroted's clients and more measures will be announced tomorrow. This is clearly an extremely strong violation of the EULA and Stanford is internally investigating this (independent of and beyond the control of my team). We have to make sure that something like this never happens again and we will take the appropriate measures to discourage this.

I won't go into further details just now, but I can predict that many of the people on the team will consider our planned measures (TBA tomorrow) unfair. However, considering that the EULA was violated in such a strong manner, I think that points are the last thing that one should be worrying about at the moment. People have been convicted in US courts for lesser infractions.

Jethroted has been mostly open about this and I am sympathetic to him, but that does not make up for the damage that has been done. For example, if a script kiddie hacked into Stanford's medical school and unintentionally scrambled the records, that would still be a very serious violation (even if no harm was intended, these actions are based on what was the outcome and the means of the infraction).

Again, I wanted to tell your team directly early out of respect and thanks for all your contributions. You'll hear more tomorrow. I am sorry I can't be visiting your fine forum with more positive news.

[bousozoku]

It should be interesting to see how this is settled. If all of Jethroted's points are removed from the team, what will be left? This would certainly be a better way to handle the problem than to reset the whole team's points to zero but it will mean a big impact.

[Mr. Anderson]

Ouch! This isn't good.

As for what it means - I'm thinking team MacRumors might be reset to Zero points or disbanded. They'll want to make an example of this I'm sure - its not right, since what he's done is effectively a virus. He'll be lucky if there isn't any legal action.

Damn, sorry this had to happen - I'm sure its going to cause all sorts of buzz in the community (F@H) and I wouldn't be surprised if it gets more noteworthy exposure even end up as a blurb in cnn.com.

D

[yoman]

Originally Posted by Mr. Anderson

Ouch! This isn't good.

As for what it means - I'm thinking team MacRumors might be reset to Zero points or disbanded. They'll want to make an example of this I'm sure - its not right, since what he's done is effectively a virus. He'll be lucky if there isn't any legal action.

Damn, sorry this had to happen - I'm sure its going to cause all sorts of buzz in the community (F@H) and I wouldn't be surprised if it gets more noteworthy exposure even end up as a blurb in cnn.com.

D

why would a whole team be penalized for 1 member? If this is so then anyone could knock out any of the top teams by doing something similar.

[Mr. Anderson]

Originally Posted by yoman

why would a whole team be penalized for 1 member? If this is so then anyone could knock out any of the top teams by doing something similar.

its the nature of the beast. I'm not saying that its going to happen, but he did say that it would seem unfair. Expect the worst and all, you know?

Speculation aside, this is serious, and they have to make sure that it doesn't happen again - hence the need for extreme measures. Remember, the reason we're in this is to help, not compete to see who has the most points - that's just a side issue.

Its point counting is quite similar to post count issues we've had here on MR - notice that you don't see post count next to your name anymore?

Just don't get upset at what ever they do tomorrow, accept it and continue folding for the right reasons.

D

[yoman]

Originally Posted by Mr. Anderson

its the nature of the beast. I'm not saying that its going to happen, but he did say that it would seem unfair. Expect the worst and all, you know?

Speculation aside, this is serious, and they have to make sure that it doesn't happen again - hence the need for extreme measures. Remember, the reason we're in this is to help, not compete to see who has the most points - that's just a side issue.

Its point counting is quite similar to post count issues we've had here on MR - notice that you don't see post count next to your name anymore?

Just don't get upset at what ever they do tomorrow, accept it and continue folding for the right reasons.

D

well if we are scrapped as a team. I wonder if we can start again and have some fun moving up the ranks again. If we can't even restart....hmm....well I guess I'll keep folding.

[VijayPande]

Just a quick reply: the measures would be isolated to Jethroted's account and since there is currently no evidence suggesting other team members were involved, etc no punative measures will be taken against the team.

[cjc343]

Thanks for the clarification...

It's too bad this turned out the way it did... if this had all been real, we would be in 9th place soon.

Sorry for all the trouble this has caused you, Stanford, and everyone else.


Now there are two things I want to hear: Mustang Mac's evidence, and Jethroted's current standing.

[Mr. Anderson]

Originally Posted by VijayPande

Just a quick reply: the measures would be isolated to Jethroted's account and since there is currently no evidence suggesting other team members were involved, etc no punative measures will be taken against the team.

Thanks for letting us know more of what you planned. Its unfortunate that this had to happen - I just hope it all works out.

D

[NoahJ]

Originally Posted by cjc343

Now there are two things I want to hear: Mustang Mac's evidence, and Jethroted's current standing.

Why? What exactly will that accomplish?

The first part makes no difference one way or another except to somehow make you feel better that Mustang Mac may not have known anything ahead of time.

The second part will be answered tomorrow.

[cjc343]

Originally Posted by NoahJ

Why? What exactly will that accomplish?

The first part makes no difference one way or another except to somehow make you feel better that Mustang Mac may not have known anything ahead of time.

The second part will be answered tomorrow.

First part: Because he said he had evidence, but he never gave it. I am simply curious as to what it is. No, it is not important.

Second part: I had meant that I wanted to know what Jethroted is thinking and whether he is maintaining innocence or not. I was aware that we would be told what was happening tomorrow.

[MacBandit]

The unfortunate part about this is jethroted could still be legally punished for this even if Stanford doesn't chose to do so. The Feds could catch wind of this and also it could infect a large business which could press charges. The real kicker is that jethroted could be completely innocent. He could have written the .MSI file and then someone else could have changed that into the malicious file that floating around.

[bousozoku]

Well, if jethroted's points are removed, that will put the team at #21, which is still quite good.

[Rower_CPU]

Vijay-

Thanks for stopping by and letting us know your course of action - it seems fair under the circumstances. Protecting the integrity of the project is, of course, your primary concern and this should accomplish that with minimal disruption.

[KingSleaze]

Not catching up, we are falling farther behind. Kudos to Jethroted for however he is cranking out so many points (wonder how many others are doing the same thing? I can't really see too many private citizens having access to more than 10 processors).

[Krizoitz]

This is so sad. Jethroted should be ashamed of himself. In addition to disrespecting the noble goals of the folding program he has given MacRumors a very bad name. I'd rather be in last place and do it honestly than first in this method.