Apple Releases New PowerMacs

MacRumors · Jun 9, 2004, 08:39 AM

Apple has released the new PowerMac G5 revisions.

The new machines are as follows:

Dual 1.8GHz - $1999
Dual 2.0GHz - $2499
Dual 2.5GHz - $2999

liketom · Jun 9, 2004, 08:39 AM

o dear is that all ?????

e-coli · 08:47 AM

Looks like no 3's. Wow...really no changes at all except higher clock speeds at a 90nm process.

Wonder what the stock will do. *cringes*

killmoms · 12:39 AM

It ain't 3.0, but it's still sweet.

Now to bear the brunt of all the "APPLE DIDNT GET 3.0 OMG LUZERZ LOLBBQ!!!1!one" whiners. IBM had trouble at 90nm, not too surprising, Intel did (and still does) as well. I was surprised they made that promise last year; ramping 1.0GHz in a year is VERY aggressive.

--Cless

kwajo.com · 12:39 AM

damn i was about ot start a thread about this!! saw it on canada store which i think went up before the others did for some reason

anyway these updates are very odd. too big a gap between 2 and 2.5. and it's only one new speed. and why did they downgrade the dual 1.8??? the one you could have bought yesterday would be better than the "updated" one today! wtf?

i don't like it, but then again I really want a dual G5 of any speed as it would smoke my 1.5GHz powerbook

Dont Hurt Me · 05:32 PM

Sweet, maybe i should forget imac and get a dual1.8 but then again it has 256 memory and a fx5200 wtf?

LaMerVipere · Jun 9, 2004, 08:41 AM

Well I guess if you bought a Dual 2.0GHz last year there's no reason for you to feel the slightest bit outdated today!

So they just added one new model, wow...that took a year?

crap freakboy · Jun 9, 2004, 08:41 AM

better than a kick in the teeth I suppose....but not much.

lets hope wwdc offers more than updated displays.

dopefiend · Jun 9, 2004, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaMerVipere

Well I guess if you bought a Dual 2.0GHz last year there's no reason for you to feel the slightest bit outdated today!

So they just added one new model, wow...that took a year?

Yup, this is disappointing.

Buck72 · Jun 9, 2004, 08:42 AM

OMG I am so glad I got an RMA to send back my dual 1.8 yesterday. Almost got screwed out of 500 bucks.

bob_the_gorilla · Jun 9, 2004, 08:42 AM

Not bad - but not what we were hoping for. They still have pants graphics cards, I can't believe it!

MGnards · Jun 9, 2004, 08:42 AM

and apparently, the suckers are liquid-cooled, too.
not bad, hope they were right about the displays, too.

iGav · Jun 9, 2004, 08:42 AM

2.5 looks fast, especially with that 1.25GHz Frontside bus...

The only not so cool bit is the gap between 2 and 2.5, I would've thought they might have gone for a 2GHz, 2.2Ghz and 2.5GHz...

Either way... looking forward to the benchmark results.

stefman · Jun 9, 2004, 08:43 AM

Nice....but how about those LCD displays??

I need a display!!

madrobby · Jun 9, 2004, 08:43 AM

Well... Lets wait for WWDC...

Mitthrawnuruodo · Jun 9, 2004, 08:44 AM

So, what's the new sweetspot? The dual 1.8 or 2.0?

The 2.5 looks great, but it's a bit on the expencive side...

bob_the_gorilla · Jun 9, 2004, 08:44 AM

Ooh, liquid cooling system...

BakedBeans · Jun 9, 2004, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob_the_gorilla

Not bad - but not what we were hoping for. They still have pants graphics cards, I can't believe it!

9800xt aint pants.... but a big boo all round i think
liquid cooling a nice touch tho

Dont Hurt Me · Jun 9, 2004, 08:46 AM

The worst part of this update are the video cards, fx5200 in a $2000 machine??? am i missing something? $50 more bucks for a 9600xt, $350 for a 9800xt in the base machine. Apple has fallen behind in the video card dept, good reason to kill off ADC.

jocknerd · Jun 9, 2004, 08:46 AM

So one new Mac to show for a whole year? Not complaining. 2.5ghz is fast. But come on Apple, there have been changes in the graphics world. FX5200? Get real. That card belongs in a $400 PC.

I'm glad to see the PowerMacs come only in a dual processor format now. That definitely makes way for a G5 iMac. But considering the crappy graphics card in the PM, I guess we shouldn't expect to be able to play games in the iMac with the card they'll probably put in that.

rwbean · 09:04 AM

Taking GST of 10% into account for the 3 models, the exchange rate used comes to .6226 (dual 2.5 GHz), .6110 and .6110. (with edu discount - .6367, .6387, .6248.)

The actual exchange rate is .6980. Compare to .6874 for the Powerbook 15" with Superdrive (and .7187 for the same thing with EDU discount)!!! No sales to Aussies - the Powermacs must be squarely aimed at the US market.

MDiddy · Jun 9, 2004, 08:46 AM

They hobble the Dual 1.8 with the same board as the old 1.6GHz single, and still charge $200 bucks more, AND stick to PCI-X slots with already dated video cards. Waited almost a year for a Rev.2, now I'm waiting for a Rev. 3.

PRØBE · Jun 9, 2004, 08:46 AM

The dual 2.5 is sweet, but as for the other year-old models....humph. If could afford the top of the line model I would have bought one a year ago.

Ok Ok, I know people will say 1.8 is good enough for everyone etc etc, but but but (sticks out bottom lip and goes of to sulk)

jxyama · 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob_the_gorilla

Ooh, liquid cooling system...

yeah, i was about to say... i wonder how it works... (edit: only on dual 2.5 machine. details here: http://www.apple.com/powermac/design.html)

should i light the fire and suggest that 3.0 is still possible at wwdc - just for announcement with later shipping?

i don't think so, but i'm sure some will think new PMs are still coming at WWDC.

with PM update done, WWDC may revert back to what it is - a developer's conference - and not a new hardware announcement event, like last year.

hvfsl · Jun 9, 2004, 08:47 AM

Well I wont be getting one, they use last generations graphics cards.

A R9800XT in the highend? What it the point, they should at least be X800pro. Apple had better be upgrading the graphics cards soon or add the X800XT as a Built to order option at WWDC.

Jun 9, 2004, 08:39 AM	#1
MacRumors macrumors bot Join Date: Apr 2001	Apple Releases New PowerMacs Apple has released the new PowerMac G5 revisions. The new machines are as follows: Dual 1.8GHz - $1999 Dual 2.0GHz - $2499 Dual 2.5GHz - $2999

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e-coli macrumors 65816 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Brooklyn	Looks like no 3's. Wow...really no changes at all except higher clock speeds at a 90nm process. Wonder what the stock will do. cringes Last edited by e-coli : Jun 9, 2004 at 08:47 AM.

Jun 9, 2004, 08:40 AM	#4
killmoms macrumors 68040 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Washington, DC	It ain't 3.0, but it's still sweet. Now to bear the brunt of all the "APPLE DIDNT GET 3.0 OMG LUZERZ LOLBBQ!!!1!one" whiners. IBM had trouble at 90nm, not too surprising, Intel did (and still does) as well. I was surprised they made that promise last year; ramping 1.0GHz in a year is VERY aggressive. --Cless __________________ killmoms.com - Well, don't really. Goodbye Velocity and Yaseko, say hello to... Henrietta: 15" MacBook Pro, 2.33GHz C2D, 2GB RAM Kyoko: 8GB iPhone Last edited by Doctor Q : Jun 10, 2004 at 12:39 AM.

Jun 9, 2004, 08:40 AM	#5
kwajo.com macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bay of Fundy	damn i was about ot start a thread about this!! saw it on canada store which i think went up before the others did for some reason anyway these updates are very odd. too big a gap between 2 and 2.5. and it's only one new speed. and why did they downgrade the dual 1.8??? the one you could have bought yesterday would be better than the "updated" one today! wtf? i don't like it, but then again I really want a dual G5 of any speed as it would smoke my 1.5GHz powerbook __________________ My Time on the Tropical Island of Newfoundland: http://gallery.mac.com/darkharbour/ Last edited by Doctor Q : Jun 10, 2004 at 12:39 AM.

Jun 9, 2004, 08:40 AM	#6
Dont Hurt Me macrumors 601 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Yahooville S.C.	Sweet, maybe i should forget imac and get a dual1.8 but then again it has 256 memory and a fx5200 wtf? __________________ Those that give up Liberty to have temporary Security deserve Neither......Benjamin Franklin. Last edited by Dont Hurt Me : Jun 9, 2004 at 05:32 PM.

Jun 9, 2004, 08:41 AM	#7
LaMerVipere macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Chicago	Oy Vey... Well I guess if you bought a Dual 2.0GHz last year there's no reason for you to feel the slightest bit outdated today! So they just added one new model, wow...that took a year? __________________ MacBook Pro + iPhone 3G

Jun 9, 2004, 08:41 AM	#8
crap freakboy macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: nar in Gainsborough, me duck	better than a kick in the teeth I suppose....but not much. lets hope wwdc offers more than updated displays.

Jun 9, 2004, 08:42 AM	#10
Buck72 macrumors newbie Join Date: Jun 2004	Yes! OMG I am so glad I got an RMA to send back my dual 1.8 yesterday. Almost got screwed out of 500 bucks.

Jun 9, 2004, 08:42 AM	#11
bob_the_gorilla macrumors member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Derby, UK	Not bad - but not what we were hoping for. They still have pants graphics cards, I can't believe it!

Jun 9, 2004, 08:42 AM	#12
MGnards macrumors newbie Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: orlando, FL	and apparently, the suckers are liquid-cooled, too. not bad, hope they were right about the displays, too.

Jun 9, 2004, 08:42 AM	#13
iGav macrumors 601 Join Date: Mar 2002	2.5 looks fast, especially with that 1.25GHz Frontside bus... The only not so cool bit is the gap between 2 and 2.5, I would've thought they might have gone for a 2GHz, 2.2Ghz and 2.5GHz... Either way... looking forward to the benchmark results. __________________ "Flick the Gestapo.... No, I said Flick, the Gestapo!"

Jun 9, 2004, 08:43 AM	#14
stefman macrumors regular Join Date: Jul 2002	Nice....but how about those LCD displays?? I need a display!!

Jun 9, 2004, 08:43 AM	#15
madrobby macrumors regular Join Date: May 2003 Location: Daham	Well... Lets wait for WWDC...

Jun 9, 2004, 08:44 AM	#16
Mitthrawnuruodo Demi-God (Moderator) Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Bergen, Norway	So, what's the new sweetspot? The dual 1.8 or 2.0? The 2.5 looks great, but it's a bit on the expencive side... __________________ Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it; those who fail to learn history correctly... why, they are simply doomed.

Jun 9, 2004, 08:46 AM	#19
Dont Hurt Me macrumors 601 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Yahooville S.C.	The worst part of this update are the video cards, fx5200 in a $2000 machine??? am i missing something? $50 more bucks for a 9600xt, $350 for a 9800xt in the base machine. Apple has fallen behind in the video card dept, good reason to kill off ADC. __________________ Those that give up Liberty to have temporary Security deserve Neither......Benjamin Franklin.

Jun 9, 2004, 08:46 AM	#20
jocknerd macrumors regular Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Virginia	So one new Mac to show for a whole year? Not complaining. 2.5ghz is fast. But come on Apple, there have been changes in the graphics world. FX5200? Get real. That card belongs in a $400 PC. I'm glad to see the PowerMacs come only in a dual processor format now. That definitely makes way for a G5 iMac. But considering the crappy graphics card in the PM, I guess we shouldn't expect to be able to play games in the iMac with the card they'll probably put in that.

Jun 9, 2004, 08:46 AM	#21
rwbean macrumors newbie Join Date: Apr 2004	$A exchange rate Taking GST of 10% into account for the 3 models, the exchange rate used comes to .6226 (dual 2.5 GHz), .6110 and .6110. (with edu discount - .6367, .6387, .6248.) The actual exchange rate is .6980. Compare to .6874 for the Powerbook 15" with Superdrive (and .7187 for the same thing with EDU discount)!!! No sales to Aussies - the Powermacs must be squarely aimed at the US market. Last edited by rwbean : Jun 9, 2004 at 09:04 AM.

Jun 9, 2004, 08:46 AM	#22
MDiddy macrumors member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Chicago	THumbs down They hobble the Dual 1.8 with the same board as the old 1.6GHz single, and still charge $200 bucks more, AND stick to PCI-X slots with already dated video cards. Waited almost a year for a Rev.2, now I'm waiting for a Rev. 3. __________________ "Litter is my most treacherous foe. I would like to eat its children." -Drederick Tatum

Jun 9, 2004, 08:46 AM	#23
PRØBE macrumors member Join Date: Jan 2004	:( The dual 2.5 is sweet, but as for the other year-old models....humph. If could afford the top of the line model I would have bought one a year ago. Ok Ok, I know people will say 1.8 is good enough for everyone etc etc, but but but (sticks out bottom lip and goes of to sulk)

Jun 9, 2004, 08:47 AM	#25
hvfsl macrumors 65816 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: London, UK	Well I wont be getting one, they use last generations graphics cards. A R9800XT in the highend? What it the point, they should at least be X800pro. Apple had better be upgrading the graphics cards soon or add the X800XT as a Built to order option at WWDC. __________________ MacBook Pro 2.4Ghz 500GB (uni) OS X/Windows XP/7/Ubuntu Hackintosh Pro - 2.4Ghz Quad core XP/OS X Media Centre - 2Ghz dual core BluRay Windows 7

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