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Old Jun 27, 2004, 03:26 AM   #1
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Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger) Screenshots... Real?

Yesterday a number of screenshots purporting to be from a developer's release of Mac OS X 10.4 made their way onto the internet.

While sources have been unable to directly confirm the validity of the images depicted, we have been able to get reliable confirmation that many of the concepts depicted -- including the Safari RSS implementation as well as the Konfabulator-like widget plug in system -- should find their way into Mac OS X 10.4.

Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger) will be previewed this next week at Apple's World Wide Developer's Conference.
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Old Jun 27, 2004, 03:28 AM   #2
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Yesterday a number of screenshots purporting to be from a developer's release of Mac OS X 10.4 made their way onto the internet.

While sources have been unable to directly confirm the validity of the images depicted, we have been able to get reliable confirmation that many of the concepts depicted -- including the Safari RSS implementation as well as the Konfabulator-like widget plug in system -- should find their way into Mac OS X 10.4.

Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger) will be previewed this next week at Apple's World Wide Developer's Conference.
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Old Jun 27, 2004, 03:30 AM   #3
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that's the latest word....

guess we'll see...

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Old Jun 27, 2004, 03:30 AM   #4
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Yesterday a number of screenshots purporting to be from a developer's release of Mac OS X 10.4 made their way onto the internet.

While sources have been unable to directly confirm the validity of the images depicted, we have been able to get reliable confirmation that many of the concepts depicted -- including the Safari RSS implementation as well as the Konfabulator-like widget plug in system -- should find their way into Mac OS X 10.4.

Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger) will be previewed this next week at Apple's World Wide Developer's Conference.
So far, it looks good for a start, but why gadgets? They look so
Windoze.....
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Old Jun 27, 2004, 03:33 AM   #5
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I'd use those gadgets. It's a question how easily can I customize them and how easy it for a new-user to access.

It's 3:30 in the morning EST time. Maybe I should sleep some... "Innovation never sleeps."
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Old Jun 27, 2004, 03:35 AM   #6
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They don't seem real. The Expose dashboard looks weird. We'll soon know.
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Old Jun 27, 2004, 03:37 AM   #7
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Tiger never sleeps......

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I'd use those gadgets. It's a question how easily can I customize them and how easy it for a new-user to access.

It's 3:30 in the morning EST time. Maybe I should sleep some... "Innovation never sleeps."
In the Jungle, the Mighty Jungle,
the Lion Sleeps tonight..... No
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Old Jun 27, 2004, 03:37 AM   #8
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So far, it looks good for a start, but why gadgets? They look so
Windoze.....
Really? I've never seen anything like Konfabulator/Dashboard on a Windows system.
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Old Jun 27, 2004, 03:39 AM   #9
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Really? I've never seen anything like Konfabulator/Dashboard on a Windows system.
True, but the clock design struck a similarity to
the preview of Longhorn v.000000000001
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Old Jun 27, 2004, 03:46 AM   #10
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True, but the clock design struck a similarity to
the preview of Longhorn v.000000000001
Sadly I agree with you. That's one feature I will not be using.
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Old Jun 27, 2004, 03:51 AM   #11
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So far, it looks good for a start, but why gadgets? They look so
Windoze.....
Agreed, those gadgets seem to lack the typical polish of Apple products. I smell a rat.
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Old Jun 27, 2004, 03:51 AM   #12
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Sadly I agree with you. That's one feature I will not be using.
Wow! The clock was the thing I liked best about it. If it's able to display other time zones I'd be using it constantly.

The one thing I dislike about Konfabulator is I haven't been able to find a decent world clock.
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Old Jun 27, 2004, 03:53 AM   #13
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I don't know that I have a very long wish list for 10.4. I am pretty darn happy with 10.3 as a whole. If anything, I wish Safari's update cycle was quicker. 10.3 is awesome, but even though I use Safari almost exclusively, I really wish that Safari loaded ALL internet sites correctly (an impossible order I know). I also wish it worked better with the Media Player plug-in, or better yet, Quicktime started running more typically PC-friendly video CODECs.

One more thing on the wish list is an update to iChat. It would be nice if iChat became a kind of interpreter for multiple IM clients. Wouldn't it be awesome to be able to chat with your AIM, MSN, and Yahoo buddies using a single app?

By the way, what is RSS?
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Old Jun 27, 2004, 03:54 AM   #14
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They don't seem real. The Expose dashboard looks weird. We'll soon know.
this is just an early build (if not a complete photoshop fabrication), so it may become more aquaesque over time?
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Old Jun 27, 2004, 03:55 AM   #15
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One thing I do like--the way the toolbar is just part of the Prefs window title bar. That would like really nice in Mail, for instance.

The small "weirdnesses" I can keep an open mind about--it's a TEST version.

The BIG issue of the widgets looking weird and non-Apple... that's pretty hard to get past. (Unless those really ARE known Konfabulator widgets, and they happen to work with Apple's new system but are not BY Apple. Anyone recognize any of them specifically?)
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Old Jun 27, 2004, 03:56 AM   #16
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Konfabulator 1.7 is out...

http://www.konfabulator.com/

Konspose and dashboard...hmmm...
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Old Jun 27, 2004, 04:02 AM   #17
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One thing I do like--the way the toolbar is just part of the Prefs window title bar.
I'm not very impressed with this, I like dropping my most used Prefs up the top which doesn't look possible in this version. If I'm wrong then it doesn't seem too bad a change.
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Old Jun 27, 2004, 04:09 AM   #18
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By the way, what is RSS?
Really Simple Syndication.

It's nothing more than an XML file that supporting programs interpret into basically a headline feed, often with a small summary.

Example programs are NetNewsWire, OmniWeb, Safari (Soon ). Coincidentally there are Konfabulator widgets for this (I hope that "Dashboard" will be extremely easy to write widgets for!).
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Old Jun 27, 2004, 04:12 AM   #19
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Why System Prefs have a search field . Is it really hard to find what you are looking for in that window ??
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Why System Prefs have a search field . Is it really hard to find what you are looking for in that window ??
Maybe if you don't know where to go to do what you want to do?


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Old Jun 27, 2004, 04:23 AM   #21
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When the gods wish to punish us, they give us exactly what we want. Perhaps Tiger's development was influenced by the rain dance of most users who lamented over being "forced" to upgrade every year for exciting new features. Soon they'll be made with the same degree of "force" to upgrade for rather boring ones.

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Those widgets, and especially the dasboard with the "X" (Close window?) looks so Windoze. I hope this isn't what we're going to see, but the idea is nice.
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Well I am glad to see some supporting rumors for a Konfabulator like tool in OSX. I like the idea of being able to write my own simple code and use quartz extreme interfaces.
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Old Jun 27, 2004, 04:57 AM   #24
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if OSX does sport widgets, I hope Apple will set up a system so widget developers can make some money for their efforts. At the moment, developing Konfabulator widgets is done for the love of it - but sells much K for the guys who produced K.
Maybe an iTMS style shop where widgets can be downloaded for $1 ea with 3 day demo versions. (with widgets, 3 days is plenty of time to decide if you like it or not).

BTW The concept of dashboard presented by these screenshots didn't appeal, but if they are used context sensitvely like some are saying, they could be pretty cool.
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This is getting really weird. First, they seem real. Then they are for sure not real. Now, there's so many friggin' screenshots, it seems real, or at least the concepts are real! Well, I hope that the dashboard is done the Apple way, then it'll probably be good. But I don't like the current shots. Hm, we'll see in about 30 hours.
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