WWDC: New Tiger Features

MacRumors · 03:16 PM

Today Apple introduced many new features that will be arriving in Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger) in the first half of 2005. The multiple screenshots leaked on Friday turned out to be true... proving (again) that most individuals can not conclusively determine fakes vs real screenshots

Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger) is said to include over 150 new features. The most exciting include:

Spotlight

Find anything, anywhere on your computer in no time flat. More...

iChat AV

Video-conference with 3 other people. Audio conference with 10 other people. More...

Safari RSS

Browse RSS feeds and search through them in Safari

Dashboard

Open fast access widgets with a press of a button. More...

Automator

Automate manual, repetetive tasks with point and click simplicity. More...

More information is available on Apple's site.

Kingsnapped · Jun 28, 2004, 03:09 PM

I actually fell asleep during the keynote... after all that time I spent up last night talking about it here.

/shame

nsb3000 · 03:19 PM

Tiger looks cool. I was especially impressed with the Automater feature. The search thing looks good as well. I want to see how the Meta data system is implemented..if done right, this could be a break through.

I am disappointed about the lack of new Hardware announcements, but 10.4 looks really cool.

nmk · Jun 28, 2004, 03:10 PM

Tiger seems like a decent update. The search function is impressive. Sure there will be a lot of people complaining about why they didn't get their G5 iMac.

xtekdiver · Jun 28, 2004, 03:10 PM

Well, now we know. What a let down. Monitors are awesome, but no 17" cinema is a big mistake and a real disappointment. For a mere 7K you can have it all, but I only have $700

So, what's so special about Tiger? Some minor improvements but nothing earth shattering or groundbreaking. Still better than Windows, but I guess I was expecting something much more exciting than this.

On the brighter side however, Tiger will have to ship with the new G5 Powerbook next year. Time to save my pennies.

Ajmbc · Jun 28, 2004, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nsb3000

Tiger looks really cool.

I like its new features, definitely not as much as we were hoping for, but still pretty cool.

ajmbc

oldmanwinter · Jun 28, 2004, 03:11 PM

Tiger looks nice, and they have plenty of time to tweak it... but the konfabulator stuff is a low blow

nsb3000 · Jun 28, 2004, 03:12 PM

I think Automater or Pipeline looks like the coolest new feature..very Apple like, very cool, very usefull.

Freg3000 · Jun 28, 2004, 03:12 PM

I hate the aqua blue apple menu. What is up with that?

All in all, it was ok. Not many big surprises, and I don't see many "normal people" features in Tiger....but I like spotlight a lot.

5 out of 10.

PieMac · Jun 28, 2004, 03:12 PM

Any mention of price reduction for the older 20" and 23" displays? I notice the only older model on Apple's website is the 17".

Darwin · Jun 28, 2004, 03:12 PM

Of course Tiger is not finished yet so im sure there are other features to be done

Looking at the Info on Apple.com it doesn't look as bad then it was when we were looking at the leaked pictures

FatSweatyChimp · Jun 28, 2004, 03:12 PM

Underwhelming.

Might give this one a miss.

BornAgainMac · Jun 28, 2004, 03:13 PM

What!!! No more "And one more thing...". Was Steve wearing a tie today? This is weird.

nsb3000 · Jun 28, 2004, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldmanwinter

Tiger looks nice, and they have plenty of time to tweak it... but the konfabulator stuff is a low blow

This is true. I help out hopes that Apple would take the high road on this issue, but it does not look that way...

Awimoway · Jun 28, 2004, 03:13 PM

What a bunch of sour apples.

Tiger is a much more exciting update than Panther.

Spotlight: Metadata in Finder and more. What could be better?

Automater: The possibilities are endless. If this is implemented correctly, it will be a very powerful feature.

Dashboard: A cleaner version of Konfab with Apple's design touches.

Safari RSS: Finally, an easy, straightforward, Mac-esque way to do RSS!

iChat AV: The hi-res video rocks.

NO PINSTRIPES

This is a very solid update to the OS. Far more impressive than the one-hit wonder that was Panther: "oh boy, I can make my windows fly off the screen... uh, is that all there is?"

BornAgainMac · Jun 28, 2004, 03:16 PM

Safari should have been updated today but then that would steal a feature from Tiger. I wanted something free to download today from Apple.

DGFan · Jun 28, 2004, 03:17 PM

I haven't seen the keynote, just read the notes. But so far there isn't anything spectacular that makes me want to run out and buy it immediately (like Expose). On the other hand, most of the Panther improvements weren't flashy either (like improvements to Mail). I guess I'll have to wait for reviews.

bertagert · Jun 28, 2004, 03:19 PM

First off, I lot of us are eating crow right now because we thought the pics were fake. On behalf of the 60%+ that voted fake, our bad.

Next, displays. 30" is sweet! Majorly expensive when you put two cards and a screen and a powermac together. Ouch! Wonder how many will get this setup?

Screens look super nice and the tilt is a much needed feature. The only thing I wounder is how easy, or not so easy, it will be to plug stuff into the back of the screen?

Tiger:
Major rip on kofabulator. Wonder what will come out of this or if they just bought it from developers? If not, big no no in my book.

I really hope there are some "real" features that come out of Tiger. Nothing I see right now is worth $129 (if that's the price of upgrading).

All in all, nothing too exciting.

Stella · Jun 28, 2004, 03:21 PM

Tiger doesn't look that exciting..

Those widgets on the dashboard are gross.. out of character of Apple. Hopefully they will improve them..

Automator looks good.

XCode 2 seems OK with Java code completion, but they really need to add Refactoring functionality. Refactoring would allow me to move from IntelliJ (which I do think is a great app).

But, over all, there isn't that knockout feature - not like Panther or Jag.

iChat -> no better compatibility for other IMs... Great you have can a video conference with 3 people.. but do you know 3 people with iChat + video cameras?!!

soosy · Jun 28, 2004, 03:21 PM

Tiger is about a year away. *goes into the corner and cries*

I was loving the almost yearly updates... guess they are really ripping it apart this time.

Oh and I'm sure there'll be even more features/eyecandy announced at MWSF.

aswitcher · Jun 28, 2004, 03:24 PM

Tiger looks great and I am happy its not out right now but it could be a year coming...

AV Chat - excellent. All they need to do now is incorporate encryption and they will have an excellent business tool.

Widgets look great. Glad Apple did this.

Would have liked some more hardware...

jboyzh · Jun 28, 2004, 03:27 PM

Introducing Konfabulator.

What a wonderful day...

pkscout · Jun 28, 2004, 03:27 PM

I'm always amazed at the things people *don't* talk about, so I'm going to mention a couple. On the very last page of the feature overview, there is a section mentioning that I can control file and directory access by ACLs (Access Control Lists). This is HUGE for those of us administering OSX Servers, as we won't be restricted to having a single user have a set of rights, then one group, then everyone. If you've tried to setup directory permissions, you know how restrictive that is.

The other one is the voice navigation. That one looks interesting, especially if I don't have to wear a special mic to get it to work right. I have a laptop running iTunes connected directly to my stereo. I have one of those Keyspan IR remotes, but it is very limiting. If I could control the whole machine with voice, that would be cool. Now if I can find an IR remote program for the Mac that *outputs* IR commands, I could control my whole system via voice. Very cool.

Hal, please play 2001 Space Odessey. Hal, can you hear me?

macridah · Jun 28, 2004, 03:29 PM

I do think the tiger preview has a lot of new features that will be used in everyday usage. One of the big things in the panter upgrade was expose, but I don't really use it. In tiger, I'll probably use the search feature a lot, the automater and the dashboard (i know, konfabulator rip-off, but it's free).

The only thing I don't like is that it will be available in the first half of 2005. Who knows when that'll be (jan-jun). At least panther was available in Oct of the same year.

From some reason I expected more announcements (hardware, ipod), but when look at the preview page on the apple site, I realize that it's way cool and it's a definite must upgrade.

steadyeddie · Jun 28, 2004, 03:30 PM

Core Image looks great to me. Could give a great speed boost to Photoshop, and looks like it might make it much easier to develop powerful third-party imaging apps.

Jun 28, 2004, 03:00 PM	#1
MacRumors macrumors bot Join Date: Apr 2001	WWDC: New Tiger Features Today Apple introduced many new features that will be arriving in Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger) in the first half of 2005. The multiple screenshots leaked on Friday turned out to be true... proving (again) that most individuals can not conclusively determine fakes vs real screenshots Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger) is said to include over 150 new features. The most exciting include: Spotlight Find anything, anywhere on your computer in no time flat. More... iChat AV Video-conference with 3 other people. Audio conference with 10 other people. More... Safari RSS Browse RSS feeds and search through them in Safari Dashboard Open fast access widgets with a press of a button. More... Automator Automate manual, repetetive tasks with point and click simplicity. More... More information is available on Apple's site. Last edited by arn : Jun 28, 2004 at 03:16 PM.

Jun 28, 2004, 03:10 PM	#3
nsb3000 macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Boston, MA	Tiger looks really cool. Tiger looks cool. I was especially impressed with the Automater feature. The search thing looks good as well. I want to see how the Meta data system is implemented..if done right, this could be a break through. I am disappointed about the lack of new Hardware announcements, but 10.4 looks really cool. Last edited by nsb3000 : Jun 28, 2004 at 03:19 PM.

Jun 28, 2004, 03:10 PM	#5
xtekdiver macrumors regular Join Date: Aug 2003	Hmm... Well, now we know. What a let down. Monitors are awesome, but no 17" cinema is a big mistake and a real disappointment. For a mere 7K you can have it all, but I only have $700 So, what's so special about Tiger? Some minor improvements but nothing earth shattering or groundbreaking. Still better than Windows, but I guess I was expecting something much more exciting than this. On the brighter side however, Tiger will have to ship with the new G5 Powerbook next year. Time to save my pennies.

Jun 28, 2004, 03:12 PM	#9
Freg3000 macrumors 68000 Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: New York	I hate the aqua blue apple menu. What is up with that? All in all, it was ok. Not many big surprises, and I don't see many "normal people" features in Tiger....but I like spotlight a lot. 5 out of 10. Attached Images __________________ FregTK This Is Momentum.

Jun 28, 2004, 03:12 PM	#10
PieMac macrumors 6502a Join Date: Oct 2002	Older display price reduction? Any mention of price reduction for the older 20" and 23" displays? I notice the only older model on Apple's website is the 17".

Jun 28, 2004, 03:09 PM	#2
Kingsnapped macrumors 6502a Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA	I actually fell asleep during the keynote... after all that time I spent up last night talking about it here. /shame

Jun 28, 2004, 03:10 PM	#4
nmk macrumors member Join Date: Mar 2004	Tiger seems like a decent update. The search function is impressive. Sure there will be a lot of people complaining about why they didn't get their G5 iMac.

Jun 28, 2004, 03:11 PM	#7
oldmanwinter macrumors newbie Join Date: Sep 2003	Tiger looks nice, and they have plenty of time to tweak it... but the konfabulator stuff is a low blow

Jun 28, 2004, 03:12 PM	#11
Darwin macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: round the corner	Of course Tiger is not finished yet so im sure there are other features to be done Looking at the Info on Apple.com it doesn't look as bad then it was when we were looking at the leaked pictures

Jun 28, 2004, 03:12 PM	#12
FatSweatyChimp macrumors member Join Date: Feb 2004	Underwhelming. Might give this one a miss.

Jun 28, 2004, 03:13 PM	#13
BornAgainMac macrumors 68030 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Florida Resident	What!!! No more "And one more thing...". Was Steve wearing a tie today? This is weird.

Jun 28, 2004, 03:13 PM	#15
Awimoway macrumors 65816 Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: at the edge	What a bunch of sour apples. Tiger is a much more exciting update than Panther. Spotlight: Metadata in Finder and more. What could be better? Automater: The possibilities are endless. If this is implemented correctly, it will be a very powerful feature. Dashboard: A cleaner version of Konfab with Apple's design touches. Safari RSS: Finally, an easy, straightforward, Mac-esque way to do RSS! iChat AV: The hi-res video rocks. NO PINSTRIPES This is a very solid update to the OS. Far more impressive than the one-hit wonder that was Panther: "oh boy, I can make my windows fly off the screen... uh, is that all there is?"

Jun 28, 2004, 03:16 PM	#16
BornAgainMac macrumors 68030 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Florida Resident	Safari Safari should have been updated today but then that would steal a feature from Tiger. I wanted something free to download today from Apple.

Jun 28, 2004, 03:17 PM	#17
DGFan macrumors 6502a Join Date: Mar 2003	I haven't seen the keynote, just read the notes. But so far there isn't anything spectacular that makes me want to run out and buy it immediately (like Expose). On the other hand, most of the Panther improvements weren't flashy either (like improvements to Mail). I guess I'll have to wait for reviews.

Jun 28, 2004, 03:19 PM	#18
bertagert macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jan 2003	First off, I lot of us are eating crow right now because we thought the pics were fake. On behalf of the 60%+ that voted fake, our bad. Next, displays. 30" is sweet! Majorly expensive when you put two cards and a screen and a powermac together. Ouch! Wonder how many will get this setup? Screens look super nice and the tilt is a much needed feature. The only thing I wounder is how easy, or not so easy, it will be to plug stuff into the back of the screen? Tiger: Major rip on kofabulator. Wonder what will come out of this or if they just bought it from developers? If not, big no no in my book. I really hope there are some "real" features that come out of Tiger. Nothing I see right now is worth $129 (if that's the price of upgrading). All in all, nothing too exciting.

Jun 28, 2004, 03:21 PM	#19
Stella macrumors 68040 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada	Tiger doesn't look that exciting.. Those widgets on the dashboard are gross.. out of character of Apple. Hopefully they will improve them.. Automator looks good. XCode 2 seems OK with Java code completion, but they really need to add Refactoring functionality. Refactoring would allow me to move from IntelliJ (which I do think is a great app). But, over all, there isn't that knockout feature - not like Panther or Jag. iChat -> no better compatibility for other IMs... Great you have can a video conference with 3 people.. but do you know 3 people with iChat + video cameras?!! __________________ iPhone: The cell phone for communists and censorship

Jun 28, 2004, 03:21 PM	#20
soosy macrumors regular Join Date: May 2002	Tiger is about a year away. goes into the corner and cries I was loving the almost yearly updates... guess they are really ripping it apart this time. Oh and I'm sure there'll be even more features/eyecandy announced at MWSF.

Jun 28, 2004, 03:24 PM	#21
aswitcher macrumors 601 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sydney OZ	Tiger looks great and I am happy its not out right now but it could be a year coming... AV Chat - excellent. All they need to do now is incorporate encryption and they will have an excellent business tool. Widgets look great. Glad Apple did this. Would have liked some more hardware... __________________ Never underestimate the Geekfactor Switcher since June '04 iPhone 3G \| 24" Alu iMac \| 15" MacBookPro \| Elgato EyeTV/IceTV \| SecuritySpy User

Jun 28, 2004, 03:27 PM	#22
jboyzh macrumors member Join Date: Oct 2003	Introducing Konfabulator. What a wonderful day...

Jun 28, 2004, 03:27 PM	#23
pkscout macrumors newbie Join Date: Jun 2003	Interesting Features Hidden in the Overview I'm always amazed at the things people don't talk about, so I'm going to mention a couple. On the very last page of the feature overview, there is a section mentioning that I can control file and directory access by ACLs (Access Control Lists). This is HUGE for those of us administering OSX Servers, as we won't be restricted to having a single user have a set of rights, then one group, then everyone. If you've tried to setup directory permissions, you know how restrictive that is. The other one is the voice navigation. That one looks interesting, especially if I don't have to wear a special mic to get it to work right. I have a laptop running iTunes connected directly to my stereo. I have one of those Keyspan IR remotes, but it is very limiting. If I could control the whole machine with voice, that would be cool. Now if I can find an IR remote program for the Mac that outputs IR commands, I could control my whole system via voice. Very cool. Hal, please play 2001 Space Odessey. Hal, can you hear me?

Jun 28, 2004, 03:29 PM	#24
macridah macrumors 6502a Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: city, CA	I do think the tiger preview has a lot of new features that will be used in everyday usage. One of the big things in the panter upgrade was expose, but I don't really use it. In tiger, I'll probably use the search feature a lot, the automater and the dashboard (i know, konfabulator rip-off, but it's free). The only thing I don't like is that it will be available in the first half of 2005. Who knows when that'll be (jan-jun). At least panther was available in Oct of the same year. From some reason I expected more announcements (hardware, ipod), but when look at the preview page on the apple site, I realize that it's way cool and it's a definite must upgrade.

Jun 28, 2004, 03:30 PM	#25
steadyeddie macrumors member Join Date: Oct 2003	Core Image looks great to me. Could give a great speed boost to Photoshop, and looks like it might make it much easier to develop powerful third-party imaging apps.

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