Quicktime X vs. Quicktime 7

Jesse Smith · 03:27 PM

Which version do you like the best?

I think Quicktime X is really crummy. For starters, copy, cut, paste....be gone. You have to use QuickTime 7 (Utilities Folder.)

Then there's the looks. And Quicktime X shrinks the hight, and places the options in the video spot.

For those of you that haven't upgraded yet, this is what you get...

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Oh, and Quicktime X is s tiny bit slower at opening! :horror:

This was more of a crappy downgrade!! Quicktime X, meet the Trash. Trash, meet Quicktime X.

Hint: If you trash Quicktime X, rename Quicktime 7 to 'QuickTime Player' and put it in the Applications folder, to quickly convert every Quicktime file back to being opened with Quicktime 7.

jelmerjt · Aug 29, 2009, 05:41 PM

When it comes to looks, Quicktime X without a doubt. Feature wise, Quicktime 7 Pro

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Bunsen · Aug 29, 2009, 09:55 PM

I use the advanced features in Quicktime 7 almost daily, and until QuickTime X grows up to include the "pro" features, it will not live on my Macs.
The only thing I wanted to keep was the new icon, but moving the icns file from QuickTime player X to Quicktime Player 7 broke the automatic opening of files. Oh well...

VPrime · Aug 29, 2009, 11:03 PM

What also sucks is flip4mac to watch wmvs does not work with x... But it works in preview which is weird.

messedkid · Aug 29, 2009, 11:06 PM

I chose QTX.

All I need Quicktime for is watching movies, and occasionally exporting one so it works on my ipod. Quicktime X does this, and has a much more elegant UI than 7.

For my needs, Quicktime X is the bees knees.

Jesse Smith · Aug 29, 2009, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by messedkid

All I need Quicktime for is watching movies.

For most people that just do that, it's just fine. It's mostly those of us that used pro that hate it, since it doesn't have those features.

KingYaba · Aug 29, 2009, 11:29 PM

Definitely Quicktime 7. Not sure why they couldn't have taken QT 7 and simlpy added the borderless window upgrade. Keep all the features of 7 and add one.

Hrududu · Aug 29, 2009, 11:30 PM

Can't say I've used QTX much yet, but I loved the old interface. Its been around since version 4, and like SimpleText was a VERY powerful application. I hope they can improve this new version.

robanga · Aug 29, 2009, 11:33 PM

Yes, it is early on this version. I have a version 7 pro license on one of my Macs so i am glad I still have it. All and all though, the new version aesthetically is fine for me.

PrincessPeach · Aug 30, 2009, 06:19 AM

At the moment, definitely QT7 Pro. If QTX can grow up and get more of 7's feature set (as well as some options! I want movies to play when they're opened!) I'd be fine switching from 7 Pro for good. Until then I'll use both.

testcard · Aug 30, 2009, 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VPrime

What also sucks is flip4mac to watch wmvs does not work with x... But it works in preview which is weird.

There's a Beta for SL here http://dynamic.telestream.net/downlo...acwmv-beta.asp

Pagga · 05:40 PM

QT 10 is a massive dissapointment:

- No cut and paste for previews et cetera
- No direct play after opening avilable (which means one extra button to push)
- No way escaping the playback bar whilst inside the player window
- No further options available
- Slower than QT 7. Hello?

I even hate the playable preview thumbnails in the finder - even though that is a point on Snow Leopard more than QT 10.
Why hate them? Because the play button is laid smack in the middle of the thumbnail, thus preventing a regular opening of
file without navigating to the side of mentioned button.

Wrinkled grandmothers eating saus-covered potatoes whilst farting

P

davidg4781 · Aug 30, 2009, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pagga

Wrinkled grandmothers eating saus-covered potatoes whilst farting

P

What??

robert.bulko · Aug 30, 2009, 06:10 PM

a bit of fun here. New QuickTime seems to be all dark so why dont we get dark icon too?

Michaelgtrusa · Aug 30, 2009, 06:51 PM

I have to go with X.

Gray-Wolf · Aug 30, 2009, 07:11 PM

For what I use it for, Quicktime X is perfect.

VPrime · Aug 30, 2009, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by testcard

There's a Beta for SL here http://dynamic.telestream.net/downlo...acwmv-beta.asp

Awesome, thanks!

str1f3 · Aug 30, 2009, 08:18 PM

I kind of shocked by how much is actually missing in QuickTime X. Even the most simple things like the movie properties HUD. I hope they find a way to put the features back in eventually otherwise it's just a gimped movie player.

Krafty · Aug 30, 2009, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by str1f3

I kind of shocked by how much is actually missing in QuickTime X. Even the most simple things like the movie properties HUD.

CMD + I

Matthew. · Aug 30, 2009, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pagga

QT 10 is a massive dissapointment:

- No way escaping the playback bar whilst inside the player window

Click anywhere in the window.

Kunyo · Aug 31, 2009, 07:15 PM

Okay, I'm confused. Why did Apple leave us with two different versions of Quicktime? How do I make Quicktime X the default player? Or should I keep Quicktime 7 as the default?

unnamedculprit · Aug 31, 2009, 07:37 PM

Quicktime X does look a bit nicer, but I do regularly use the copy and paste tools in 7 for quick ****** edits.
Also, it's a bit silly how they've gone on about their fancy new player, and the file associations all stayed with QT7..
What's confusing me the most is how some files can't be opened in X?!
You need QuickTime Player 7 to open "psd_in_zspace_1280.mov".

astrofoo · Sep 1, 2009, 04:13 AM

I'm fine with having both QTX and QT7 on my system.

While I'm not at all pleased that even basic cut/copy/paste wasn't included or proper plugin support was a 1.0 feature for QTX, I'm glad that they are shedding a lot of the (what, 20-year-old) legacy code and focused on the technology rather than the front-end.

It's my simple understanding (so I'm probably wrong on some things) that QTX is more a backend tech that plays all the codecs that the iphone/ipod does and is behind a "QTKit" that calls out to QT7 if QTX can't handle the video. QTX is optimized for 64-bit and GPU processing while QT7 doesn't feature either and that the QTX app is just a front-end app to the QTKit API.

So they focused more on QTX the back-end in this release than the QTX front-end, and I'm fine with that. That's what Snow Leopard was all about anyways. I'm just glad we got to keep the QT7 app for light editing.

Pagga · Sep 1, 2009, 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthew.

Click anywhere in the window.

But that´s my point: you have to click several times every time you want that to happen. There is no OPTION to make this permanent.

I´ll tell you, since Snow Leopard, I´ve used QT10 less and less and VLC more and more

str1f3 · Sep 1, 2009, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krafty

CMD + I

Not what I meant. There was a HUD in Quicktime 7 that gave you controls for brightness, playback speed (forward and reverse), etc. These controls no longer seem to be there. These controls were called Show Movie Properties in the Window tab.

View Poll Results: Which version of Quicktime do you like the most?
Quicktime X	35	49.30%
Quicktime 7	14	19.72%
Quicktime 7, but I think I'll eventually get used to X and like X more.	13	18.31%
Quicktime 7, I wouldn't be caught dead with Quicktime X!	9	12.68%
Voters: 71. You may not vote on this poll

Aug 29, 2009, 04:11 PM	#1
Jesse Smith macrumors member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Planet Zeekois	Quicktime X vs. Quicktime 7 Which version do you like the best? I think Quicktime X is really crummy. For starters, copy, cut, paste....be gone. You have to use QuickTime 7 (Utilities Folder.) Then there's the looks. And Quicktime X shrinks the hight, and places the options in the video spot. For those of you that haven't upgraded yet, this is what you get... Oh, and Quicktime X is s tiny bit slower at opening! :horror: This was more of a crappy downgrade!! Quicktime X, meet the Trash. Trash, meet Quicktime X. Hint: If you trash Quicktime X, rename Quicktime 7 to 'QuickTime Player' and put it in the Applications folder, to quickly convert every Quicktime file back to being opened with Quicktime 7. __________________ 24" iMac, 3.06 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB RAM, 1 tb HD space, 1 tb external Lacie HD, 2 tb external G-Force Megadisk HD for a juicy 4 terabytes total! Last edited by Mitthrawnuruodo : Sep 1, 2009 at 03:27 PM. Reason: Changed img tags with attach tags

Aug 29, 2009, 05:41 PM	#2
jelmerjt macrumors newbie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Zwolle, NL	When it comes to looks, Quicktime X without a doubt. Feature wise, Quicktime 7 Pro.

Aug 29, 2009, 09:55 PM	#3
Bunsen macrumors member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Orlando FL	QuickTime Player X --> Trashed! I use the advanced features in Quicktime 7 almost daily, and until QuickTime X grows up to include the "pro" features, it will not live on my Macs. The only thing I wanted to keep was the new icon, but moving the icns file from QuickTime player X to Quicktime Player 7 broke the automatic opening of files. Oh well... __________________ ][e 128k Mac Mac LC PowerMac 6100 Bondi iMac Ti PB G4 Al PB G4 2 MacBook Pros

Aug 29, 2009, 11:06 PM	#5
messedkid macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Coquitlam, BC	I chose QTX. All I need Quicktime for is watching movies, and occasionally exporting one so it works on my ipod. Quicktime X does this, and has a much more elegant UI than 7. For my needs, Quicktime X is the bees knees. __________________ Macbook + Snow Leopard AAO Netbook + Windows 7 Dell Dimension 3000 + WinXP

Aug 29, 2009, 11:03 PM	#4
VPrime macrumors 6502a Join Date: Dec 2008	What also sucks is flip4mac to watch wmvs does not work with x... But it works in preview which is weird.

Aug 29, 2009, 11:29 PM	#7
KingYaba macrumors 68040 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Up the irons.	Definitely Quicktime 7. Not sure why they couldn't have taken QT 7 and simlpy added the borderless window upgrade. Keep all the features of 7 and add one. __________________ Texas: illegally acquired; universally admired. 42 Reasons Why Netbooks Are Better Than the Apple iPad

Aug 29, 2009, 11:30 PM	#8
Hrududu macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Wichita KS	Can't say I've used QTX much yet, but I loved the old interface. Its been around since version 4, and like SimpleText was a VERY powerful application. I hope they can improve this new version. __________________ MacBook Pro 2.16, 12" Powerbook G4 1.5, TiBook 867, iMac G3 600, G4 Cube 450, 2 Powermac B&W G3 450 & 350, iBook 366, Beige G3 350, Powerbook G3 233 -> John Sculley would give you a midrange tower <-

Aug 29, 2009, 11:33 PM	#9
robanga macrumors 6502a Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Oregon	Yes, it is early on this version. I have a version 7 pro license on one of my Macs so i am glad I still have it. All and all though, the new version aesthetically is fine for me. __________________ 20" 2.00 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo iMac; 13" MacBook 2.0 Ghz; 15" MacBook Pro 2.2 Ghz; Apple Mac mini "Core 2 Duo" 2.0 (Early 2009) 32GB iPhone 3GS,

Aug 30, 2009, 06:19 AM	#10
PrincessPeach macrumors regular Join Date: Mar 2009	At the moment, definitely QT7 Pro. If QTX can grow up and get more of 7's feature set (as well as some options! I want movies to play when they're opened!) I'd be fine switching from 7 Pro for good. Until then I'll use both. __________________ Mac Pro (early 2009) Quad 2.66 with 2x Dell 2209WA Macbook (Black 13") C2D 2.16 Powermac G4 (Gigabit Ethernet) 400 iBook G3 (White 12.1") 600

Aug 30, 2009, 05:34 PM	#12
Pagga macrumors regular Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Closer to the Artic circle than I like to be	Arses upon arses with arse gravy coming out of them QT 10 is a massive dissapointment: - No cut and paste for previews et cetera - No direct play after opening avilable (which means one extra button to push) - No way escaping the playback bar whilst inside the player window - No further options available - Slower than QT 7. Hello? I even hate the playable preview thumbnails in the finder - even though that is a point on Snow Leopard more than QT 10. Why hate them? Because the play button is laid smack in the middle of the thumbnail, thus preventing a regular opening of file without navigating to the side of mentioned button. Wrinkled grandmothers eating saus-covered potatoes whilst farting P __________________  IMac 24" (3.06GHZ, 4GB RAM, 1 TB 7200)  Macbook Pro 17" (2.93 GHZ, 4GB RAM, 160 GB SSD)  Iphone 3Gs Black (32 GB)  Time Capsule (2 TB) Last edited by Pagga : Aug 30, 2009 at 05:40 PM.

Aug 30, 2009, 06:10 PM	#14
robert.bulko macrumors newbie Join Date: Aug 2009	a bit of fun here. New QuickTime seems to be all dark so why dont we get dark icon too?

Aug 30, 2009, 06:51 PM	#15
Michaelgtrusa macrumors 6502a Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: USA	I have to go with X. __________________ 2008 iMAC 24" I want The Apple Tablet!

Aug 30, 2009, 07:11 PM	#16
Gray-Wolf macrumors 68030 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Dark Wood	For what I use it for, Quicktime X is perfect. __________________ "And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.. "

Aug 30, 2009, 08:18 PM	#18
str1f3 macrumors 68000 Join Date: Aug 2008	I kind of shocked by how much is actually missing in QuickTime X. Even the most simple things like the movie properties HUD. I hope they find a way to put the features back in eventually otherwise it's just a gimped movie player.

Aug 31, 2009, 07:15 PM	#21
Kunyo macrumors newbie Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Charlottesville, VA	Okay, I'm confused. Why did Apple leave us with two different versions of Quicktime? How do I make Quicktime X the default player? Or should I keep Quicktime 7 as the default?

Aug 31, 2009, 07:37 PM	#22
unnamedculprit macrumors newbie Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: UK	Quicktime X does look a bit nicer, but I do regularly use the copy and paste tools in 7 for quick ****** edits. Also, it's a bit silly how they've gone on about their fancy new player, and the file associations all stayed with QT7.. What's confusing me the most is how some files can't be opened in X?! You need QuickTime Player 7 to open "psd_in_zspace_1280.mov". Attached Thumbnails __________________ Just because it's the internet, it doesn't mean you have to put an apostrophe before every bloody "s".

Sep 1, 2009, 04:13 AM	#23
astrofoo macrumors newbie Join Date: Dec 2008	I'm fine with having both QTX and QT7 on my system. While I'm not at all pleased that even basic cut/copy/paste wasn't included or proper plugin support was a 1.0 feature for QTX, I'm glad that they are shedding a lot of the (what, 20-year-old) legacy code and focused on the technology rather than the front-end. It's my simple understanding (so I'm probably wrong on some things) that QTX is more a backend tech that plays all the codecs that the iphone/ipod does and is behind a "QTKit" that calls out to QT7 if QTX can't handle the video. QTX is optimized for 64-bit and GPU processing while QT7 doesn't feature either and that the QTX app is just a front-end app to the QTKit API. So they focused more on QTX the back-end in this release than the QTX front-end, and I'm fine with that. That's what Snow Leopard was all about anyways. I'm just glad we got to keep the QT7 app for light editing.

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