Apple PowerMac G5 Developer Note

[MacRumors]

Apple posted a revised developer's note for the new PowerMac G5 line of computers.

The latest incarnation features liquid based cooling in the high end model (2.5GHz).

The Dual 2.5GHz PowerMac is due to ship in late July.

[iriejedi]

Late July - I just hope that means WITH the nVidea 6800 Card too....

[g4cubed]

Originally Posted by iriejedi

Late July - I just hope that means WITH the nVidea 6800 Card too....

I would sure hope so.

[Freg3000]

Originally Posted by iriejedi

Late July - I just hope that means WITH the nVidea 6800 Card too....

Originally Posted by g4cubed

I would sure hope so.

When you add the 6800 to a Power Mac for any model the ship date changes to August.

[AoWolf]

Originally Posted by Freg3000

When you add the 6800 to a Power Mac for any model the ship date changes to August.

Yeah but meh? Its a good way of keeping customers looking at there site

[phonic pol]

Hey, the apple store is down for updates in the UK!

[ahoover]

Changed my order for my 2.5DPG5 CTO from an ATI Rad9800 XT to a NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL and my order status/ship date stayed the same "On or Before 07/30/2004".

[gekko513]

Originally Posted by phonic pol

Hey, the apple store is down for updates in the UK!

The norwegian store was down earlier ... the only change I can find is that the 17" display is gone from the display summary.

Edit: And you now need to go to Accessories -> Displays to find the 17"

[g4cubed]

Originally Posted by Freg3000

When you add the 6800 to a Power Mac for any model the ship date changes to August.

Mine was end of July

[cynegils]

Originally Posted by Macrumors

The Dual 2.5GHz PowerMac is due to ship in late July.

Ummm.... no.

07/01/2004
11:23 AM PST W8649482
•*2.5DPG5 CTO •*IPOD 15G-USA •*APPLE CIN DISPLAY 20" FLAT PANEL-USA
Partially Shipped
2.5DPG5 CTO- Open Est. Ship 08/31/2004


Which means I'll have this September.
Cynegils

[Freg3000]

Originally Posted by cynegils

Ummm.... no.

07/01/2004
11:23 AM PST W8649482
•*2.5DPG5 CTO •*IPOD 15G-USA •*APPLE CIN DISPLAY 20" FLAT PANEL-USA
Partially Shipped
2.5DPG5 CTO- Open Est. Ship 08/31/2004


Which means I'll have this September.
Cynegils

Perhaps not your machine which seems to have been ordered recently, but the Dual 2.5 GHz Power Macs which were ordered immediately after they became available are still slated to ship in late July.

[BWhaler]

Originally Posted by cynegils

Ummm.... no.

07/01/2004
11:23 AM PST W8649482
•*2.5DPG5 CTO •*IPOD 15G-USA •*APPLE CIN DISPLAY 20" FLAT PANEL-USA
Partially Shipped
2.5DPG5 CTO- Open Est. Ship 08/31/2004


Which means I'll have this September.
Cynegils

My PM2.5 ships 7/27.

You are able to distinguish between YOUR shipping date and the date Apple has the model available, right? I suspect you placed your order in the past week...

[gekko513]

Originally Posted by Freg3000

Perhaps not your machine which seems to have been ordered recently, but the Dual 2.5 GHz Power Macs which were ordered immediately after they became available are still slated to ship in late July.

So does this mean that Apple has received so many orders for Dual 2.5GHz PowerMacs that they now suddenly have a one month backlog, and if that is the case, is it because of a lack of CPU able to run at 2.5 GHz or a lack of 6800 cards??

Edit: Oh ... obviously because of a lack of 6800 cards since Dual 2.5GHz PowerMacs with some other card still ship in July.

[Sun Baked]

Actually it is the changes that Apple made to the machines this time around that are the most interesting part of these developer notes, and I'm not talking about the LCS.

And the DP 1.8 G5 PowerMac comparison (look at what Apple did to the PCI slots) shows some movement in an interesting direction, that is if you think about machine that is missing right now, and Apple is willing to go back to that type of design.

[gekko513]

Originally Posted by Sun Baked

Actually it is the changes that Apple made to the machines this time around that are the most interesting part of these developer notes, and I'm not talking about the LCS.

And the DP 1.8 G5 PowerMac comparison (look at what Apple did to the PCI slots) shows some movement in an interesting direction if you think of another machine that is missing right now, if Apple is willing to go back to that type of design.

Isn't that just like the old single 1.6 G5 PowerMac? I don't think Apple is going back in any way, they've just added another processor and upped the clock of the cheapest model.

[Sun Baked]

Originally Posted by gekko513

Isn't that just like the old single 1.6 G5 PowerMac? I don't think Apple is going back in any way, they've just added another processor and upped the clock of the cheapest model.

There seems to have been a design change (look at what Apple did to the PCI.)

The SP 1.6/1.8 machines did not use a board with this change, they looked quite a bit like their big brothers.

[gekko513]

Originally Posted by Sun Baked

There seems to have been a design change (look at what Apple did to the PCI.)

The SP 1.6/1.8 machines did not use a board with this change, they looked quite a bit like their big brothers.

Are you sure? This is from the old notes: "In some configurations of the Power Mac G5, one slot runs at a maximum of 133 MHz and two slots run at a maximum of 100 MHz. In other configurations of the Power Mac G5 computer, all three slots run at 33 MHz." The old 1.6 had only PCI.

[Sun Baked]

Originally Posted by gekko513

Are you sure? This is from the old notes: "In some configurations of the Power Mac G5, one slot runs at a maximum of 133 MHz and two slots run at a maximum of 100 MHz. In other configurations of the Power Mac G5 computer, all three slots run at 33 MHz." The old 1.6 had only PCI.

You are reading the text NOT looking at the picture.

Compare the two pictures, and try to figure out what Apple did with the PCI.

This may help...

[gekko513]

Originally Posted by Sun Baked

You are reading the text NOT looking at the picture.

Compare the two pictures, and try to figure out what Apple did with the PCI.

This may help...

I don't believe the rightmost picture applies to the 1.6 ... the 1.6 had only 4 DIMM slots and no PCI-X ... no need for a PCI-X bridge when there are no PCI-X slots either

[thatwendigo]

Originally Posted by Sun Baked

You are reading the text NOT looking at the picture.

Compare the two pictures, and try to figure out what Apple did with the PCI.

This may help...

Actually, I think the block diagrams are for the higher models with PCI-X, but the low end never really has had it. That would mean that the 1.8 Revision B model is actually using the same I/O system as the older 1.6 Revision A. There's no change at all, aside from the processor socketing and memory control for the dual system.

Lowendmac shows that the 1.6 single had 33mhz PCI slots, and not 100 or 133mhz PCI-X, incidentally.

[Sun Baked]

Originally Posted by gekko513

I don't believe the rightmost picture applies to the 1.6 ... the 1.6 had only 4 DIMM slots and no PCI-X ... no need for a PCI-X bridge when there are no PCI-X slots either

That's your choice.

Especially when there is a lot of evidence to support the fact the bridge controller was a PCI/PCI-X HT Tunnel.

[aussiemac86]

late July

I was told by the reseller i ordered through they would have my dual 2.5 in 2-4 weeks, and that was the last week of june.....i suppose i was just hoping it would be closer to the 2 weeks than the 4 weeks

[dontmatter]

Originally Posted by Sun Baked

You are reading the text NOT looking at the picture.

Compare the two pictures, and try to figure out what Apple did with the PCI.

This may help...

weird... not that I know enough to interpret any of this, but it SEEMS like the old version... the PCI stuff, as you said, and also half the space for memory....

???

wouldn't the old one be better, by these pictures?

[joeboy_45101]

I wonder when we'll see a 2.5Ghz Xserve??? That would be a very kickass machine for cluster computing.





















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[recursivejon]

Both my friend Doug and I ordered 2.5MP's within a week of their release last month, then following the WWDC announcement we both upgraded our graphics cards to Nvidia GF 6800 Ultra DDL's. He also ordered a 30" Cinema, which is shipping "on or before" 8/31, but both of our CPU ship dates are still "on or before" 7/30.