Apple PowerMac G5 Developer Note

Late July - I just hope that means WITH the nVidea 6800 Card too....

iriejedi said:

Late July - I just hope that means WITH the nVidea 6800 Card too....

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I would sure hope so.

iriejedi said:

Late July - I just hope that means WITH the nVidea 6800 Card too....

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g4cubed said:

I would sure hope so.

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When you add the 6800 to a Power Mac for any model the ship date changes to August.

Freg3000 said:

When you add the 6800 to a Power Mac for any model the ship date changes to August.

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Yeah but meh? Its a good way of keeping customers looking at there site

Hey, the apple store is down for updates in the UK!

Order Date Change

Changed my order for my 2.5DPG5 CTO from an ATI Rad9800 XT to a NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL and my order status/ship date stayed the same "On or Before 07/30/2004".

phonic pol said:

Hey, the apple store is down for updates in the UK!

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The norwegian store was down earlier ... the only change I can find is that the 17" display is gone from the display summary.

Edit: And you now need to go to Accessories -> Displays to find the 17"

Freg3000 said:

When you add the 6800 to a Power Mac for any model the ship date changes to August.

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Mine was end of July

Shipping time... not now.

Macrumors said:

The Dual 2.5GHz PowerMac is due to ship in late July.

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Ummm.... no.

07/01/2004
11:23 AM PST W8649482
•*2.5DPG5 CTO •*IPOD 15G-USA •*APPLE CIN DISPLAY 20" FLAT PANEL-USA
Partially Shipped
2.5DPG5 CTO- Open Est. Ship 08/31/2004


Which means I'll have this September.
Cynegils

cynegils said:

Ummm.... no.

07/01/2004
11:23 AM PST W8649482
•*2.5DPG5 CTO •*IPOD 15G-USA •*APPLE CIN DISPLAY 20" FLAT PANEL-USA
Partially Shipped
2.5DPG5 CTO- Open Est. Ship 08/31/2004


Which means I'll have this September.
Cynegils

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Perhaps not your machine which seems to have been ordered recently, but the Dual 2.5 GHz Power Macs which were ordered immediately after they became available are still slated to ship in late July.

cynegils said:

Ummm.... no.

07/01/2004
11:23 AM PST W8649482
•*2.5DPG5 CTO •*IPOD 15G-USA •*APPLE CIN DISPLAY 20" FLAT PANEL-USA
Partially Shipped
2.5DPG5 CTO- Open Est. Ship 08/31/2004


Which means I'll have this September.
Cynegils

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My PM2.5 ships 7/27.

You are able to distinguish between YOUR shipping date and the date Apple has the model available, right? I suspect you placed your order in the past week...

Freg3000 said:

Perhaps not your machine which seems to have been ordered recently, but the Dual 2.5 GHz Power Macs which were ordered immediately after they became available are still slated to ship in late July.

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So does this mean that Apple has received so many orders for Dual 2.5GHz PowerMacs that they now suddenly have a one month backlog, and if that is the case, is it because of a lack of CPU able to run at 2.5 GHz or a lack of 6800 cards??

Edit: Oh ... obviously because of a lack of 6800 cards since Dual 2.5GHz PowerMacs with some other card still ship in July.

Actually it is the changes that Apple made to the machines this time around that are the most interesting part of these developer notes, and I'm not talking about the LCS.

And the DP 1.8 G5 PowerMac comparison (look at what Apple did to the PCI slots) shows some movement in an interesting direction, that is if you think about machine that is missing right now, and Apple is willing to go back to that type of design.

Sun Baked said:

Actually it is the changes that Apple made to the machines this time around that are the most interesting part of these developer notes, and I'm not talking about the LCS.

And the DP 1.8 G5 PowerMac comparison (look at what Apple did to the PCI slots) shows some movement in an interesting direction if you think of another machine that is missing right now, if Apple is willing to go back to that type of design.

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Isn't that just like the old single 1.6 G5 PowerMac? I don't think Apple is going back in any way, they've just added another processor and upped the clock of the cheapest model.

gekko513 said:

Isn't that just like the old single 1.6 G5 PowerMac? I don't think Apple is going back in any way, they've just added another processor and upped the clock of the cheapest model.

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There seems to have been a design change (look at what Apple did to the PCI.)

The SP 1.6/1.8 machines did not use a board with this change, they looked quite a bit like their big brothers.

Sun Baked said:

There seems to have been a design change (look at what Apple did to the PCI.)

The SP 1.6/1.8 machines did not use a board with this change, they looked quite a bit like their big brothers.

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Are you sure? This is from the old notes: "In some configurations of the Power Mac G5, one slot runs at a maximum of 133 MHz and two slots run at a maximum of 100 MHz. In other configurations of the Power Mac G5 computer, all three slots run at 33 MHz." The old 1.6 had only PCI.

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Are you sure? This is from the old notes: "In some configurations of the Power Mac G5, one slot runs at a maximum of 133 MHz and two slots run at a maximum of 100 MHz. In other configurations of the Power Mac G5 computer, all three slots run at 33 MHz." The old 1.6 had only PCI.

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You are reading the text NOT looking at the picture.

Compare the two pictures, and try to figure out what Apple did with the PCI.

This may help...

Sun Baked said:

You are reading the text NOT looking at the picture.

Compare the two pictures, and try to figure out what Apple did with the PCI.

This may help...

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I don't believe the rightmost picture applies to the 1.6 ... the 1.6 had only 4 DIMM slots and no PCI-X ... no need for a PCI-X bridge when there are no PCI-X slots either

Sun Baked said:

You are reading the text NOT looking at the picture.

Compare the two pictures, and try to figure out what Apple did with the PCI.

This may help...

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Actually, I think the block diagrams are for the higher models with PCI-X, but the low end never really has had it. That would mean that the 1.8 Revision B model is actually using the same I/O system as the older 1.6 Revision A. There's no change at all, aside from the processor socketing and memory control for the dual system.

Lowendmac shows that the 1.6 single had 33mhz PCI slots, and not 100 or 133mhz PCI-X, incidentally.

gekko513 said:

I don't believe the rightmost picture applies to the 1.6 ... the 1.6 had only 4 DIMM slots and no PCI-X ... no need for a PCI-X bridge when there are no PCI-X slots either

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That's your choice.

Especially when there is a lot of evidence to support the fact the bridge controller was a PCI/PCI-X HT Tunnel.

late July

I was told by the reseller i ordered through they would have my dual 2.5 in 2-4 weeks, and that was the last week of june.....i suppose i was just hoping it would be closer to the 2 weeks than the 4 weeks

Sun Baked said:

You are reading the text NOT looking at the picture.

Compare the two pictures, and try to figure out what Apple did with the PCI.

This may help...

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weird... not that I know enough to interpret any of this, but it SEEMS like the old version... the PCI stuff, as you said, and also half the space for memory....

???

wouldn't the old one be better, by these pictures?

I wonder when we'll see a 2.5Ghz Xserve??? That would be a very kickass machine for cluster computing.





















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Still shipping 7/30

Both my friend Doug and I ordered 2.5MP's within a week of their release last month, then following the WWDC announcement we both upgraded our graphics cards to Nvidia GF 6800 Ultra DDL's. He also ordered a 30" Cinema, which is shipping "on or before" 8/31, but both of our CPU ship dates are still "on or before" 7/30.