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Why Microsoft is not Apple :)

i dont get it.. one was introducing a product.. the other was a commercial to sell a product. in the contexts, i feel they have the right to be different
 
kymac said:
i dont get it.. one was introducing a product.. the other was a commercial to sell a product. in the contexts, i feel they have the right to be different
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both of them are selling products.
yes, they have the right to be different.

but from whom would you buy? :)
i would definitely not buy from Ballmer, that guy is scaring me.
now i'm wondering how did they sell anything?
 
There's really no comparison. Steve Jobs has always had good taste and reserved class, even if it looks like he just stepped off his yacht.

And btw, that's one of the most awesome films scores in the history of film scores. Well chosen..

sushi said:
Definitely different styles. :)
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Talk about targeting your audience, I'd say.
 
Ballmer would make a good sports team owner. He is in a wrong business IMO.
 
fireshot91 said:
I thought CEO was the highest position in a company...other than owner?
So, essentially, Bill Gates is the only person that can fire Steve Balmer?
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At this point, nobody (except the board) can fire Balmer. Even before, Steve was CEO and Gates was chief software architect.
 
zamolx3 said:
At this point, nobody (except the board) can fire Balmer. Even before, Steve was CEO and Gates was chief software architect.
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Okay, that makes sense.

But then, what does Bill do other than get money annually from Microsoft?

Does he get an annual salary and the money for owning the largest share of Microsoft?
 
fireshot91 said:
I thought CEO was the highest position in a company...other than owner?
So, essentially, Bill Gates is the only person that can fire Steve Balmer?
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The board or shareholders can fire CEO, if they are not afraid of Ballmer throwing a chair their way.

agkm800 said:
Ballmer would make a good sports team owner. He is in a wrong business IMO.
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Yes, he's in the wrong business, but probably not a sports team owner since he can barely move without getting sweaty.

More a circus clown or a car sales man.
 
It's easy for us to sit here and say "Balmer is a blubbering idiot", doesn't hold a candle to Jobs, and has no other redeemable qualities, but the guy is the CEO of the most famous software company of all time.

His presentation style might not be as...effective as Steve's, but he does other stuff than make silly presentations. He's the CEO for a reason.
 
Yo dudes. Even as those are different contexts…

The Windows commercial is supposed to be a joke.
And that Apple unvieling was pretty nice since back then that was prolly never seen outside of the lab.

As for who is more “respectable” in terms of carrying an image in the business world, look at it from the point of the more conservative business “stiffs” as some might put it.

A "corny" workaholic nerdy type like Balmer?

Or a "cool" hippy druggie type like Jobs?

Which one do you think would garner more of a “respectful image” to corporate America? :D
 
Apple has always cared about their image and delivery something that was great to look and use. Microsoft not so much, they cared more for profits and presenting themselves as innovators when in reality they are imitators.
 
If that's what 1986 TV commercials were like I would have canceled cable err.. thrown the antenna out the window and sold the TV
 
Sorry to bust your bubble, but that was not a commercial

The Jobs video is from the unveiling of the Macintosh back on Jan 20(?), 1984 in Cupertino. I was a shareholder :apple: then (long since sold, if I'd kept those 100 shares I would have had a nice retirement fund :( ) and tried to get in. I could not it was full. It was never broadcast as a commercial, and was not broadcast as an event either, except perhaps on a closed circuit set up for those who could not get in.

The Ballmer video was an in-house video, a joke.:p No way did Microsoft broadcast such a thing. Remember in 1986 Microsoft was a partner of IBM, and was selling versions of MS-DOS, separate from IBM-DOS, to Compaq, Toshiba, HP, and a few other companies. It was doing quite well financially, and had the momentum. In '86 Apple was still having to depend on the Apple II line for income. Microsoft did make funny in-house videos for its meetings, but no advertisement like that clip of Ballmer. Plus no-one really gave a hoot about Windows until Microsoft got to 3.1. :D
 
I don't think you get the difference between these two videos. The Microsoft one is an Advertisement, the style of which would hvae been acceptable at the time, and it obviously worked. The Mac one is a live demonstration, not an advertisement.
 
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