iPhoto 4.0.2 In July?

[MacRumors]

According to ThinkSecret, Apple is putting the finishing touches on iPhoto 4.0.2 to be released in July.

iPhoto 4.0.2 will fix several bugs involving photo books in Europe and Smart Albums, both of which are new features that Apple introduced with iPhoto 4. The updated application will also inform users when new updates are available for download.

Any further details would be appreciated.

[iChan]

never had any of the problems that are mentioned in the post personally, i have been ordering albums with no hiccups

[TorbX]

I want them to support small video flicks that I take with my Canon Ixus. I had to get myself a card-reading dongle where I insert my memorycard, in order to get them onto my computer.

[pediddle]

Originally Posted by TorbX

I want them to support small video flicks that I take with my Canon Ixus.

That -- and audio attachments! I've got this nifty microphone on my camera to record notes along with the pictures, but it's completely useless with iPhoto.

Originally Posted by TorbX

I had to get myself a card-reading dongle where I insert my memorycard, in order to get them onto my computer.

Most cameras have the ability to connect as a Mass Storage Device (maybe an option in the settings menu) -- so the camera itself becomes the card reader.

[SuperChuck]

I haven't really used iPhoto because I hate the complicated file structure it uses to store the files.

Pictures>iPhoto>Albums>PagesofAlbums>2003>Spring>May>24th>AM>GoodLighting>GimmeABreak

I imagine I could probably override this default, but I found the default so irritating that I never used the app again. This would be the easiest thing to fix, and would be a very worthwhile enhancement.

[ebow]

Originally Posted by SuperChuck

I haven't really used iPhoto because I hate the complicated file structure it uses to store the files.

Pictures>iPhoto>Albums>PagesofAlbums>2003>Spring>May>24th>AM>GoodLighting>GimmeABreak

I imagine I could probably override this default, but I found the default so irritating that I never used the app again. This would be the easiest thing to fix, and would be a very worthwhile enhancement.

I understand your annoyance, but the point of iPhoto is supposed to be "File structure? What's a file structure?" Seriously, though, it shows you pictures in rolls and/or albums, and the kind of user who just wants to tweak, arrange, and share photos won't care where the actual photo files are.

I just wish that iPhoto 4 were available as a standalone download, instead of exlusively as part of iLife. I'll get to see what version 4 is all about when I get a new computer...

[WM.]

Originally Posted by pediddle

Most cameras have the ability to connect as a Mass Storage Device (maybe an option in the settings menu) -- so the camera itself becomes the card reader.

You can also use Image Capture. That goes for TorbX too.

[Aciddan]

Originally Posted by TorbX

I want them to support small video flicks that I take with my Canon Ixus. I had to get myself a card-reading dongle where I insert my memorycard, in order to get them onto my computer.

I hava a Canon Powershot s30 which does video too. When I take small clips, I use the Image Capture program. You just scroll through the list until you hit your videos then download them (unless you have already tried Image Capture).

-- Dan =)

[AppleMatt]

Originally Posted by SuperChuck

I haven't really used iPhoto because I hate the complicated file structure it uses to store the files.

Pictures>iPhoto>Albums>PagesofAlbums>2003>Spring>May>24th>AM>GoodLighting>GimmeABreak

Completely agree, it's a mess.

I don't see the point of informing users when new versions are available unless it runs Software Update to do so, because either people know about SU and use it, or they don't know about it and don't use it (so alerting them and running Software Update would make them aware).

AppleMatt

[MontgomeryBurns]

Originally Posted by ebow

I understand your annoyance, but the point of iPhoto is supposed to be "File structure? What's a file structure?" Seriously, though, it shows you pictures in rolls and/or albums, and the kind of user who just wants to tweak, arrange, and share photos won't care where the actual photo files are.

Really though, the point of iphoto isn't "whats a file structure?", its to have a graphical interface for accessing photos. It seems that iphoto should be as intuitive as itunes for organizing its files. Instead it buries them to such an extreme degree that a casual user would have no idea at all how to find the files on their hard drive should the need arise.
When I have something in iphoto that needs some actual editing (other brightness/contrast or the silly "Enhance" button), I have to export the file to the desktop to open it in photoshop (and I DON't want to have to open photoshop every time i want to view something as other than a thumbnail). Then I have a file on my desktop thats different from its iphoto counterpart, which I could add to my library, but then iphoto would put that image in some other random ass directory, and we're back where we started. Boo.

[rikers_mailbox]

soo. . a bit off topic, but can anyone think of a reason why digital cameras can't be bluetooth? BT is supposed to be the wireless equivilent of USB, no?

Why can't I pair a camera with my BT module and import photos?!

Maybe that will be in iPhoto 5.0, and work with an Apple-branded camera. Kidding, of course.

Edit: found one here, but it's not that cool.

[keltorsori]

Originally Posted by MontgomeryBurns

Really though, the point of iphoto isn't "whats a file structure?", its to have a graphical interface for accessing photos. It seems that iphoto should be as intuitive as itunes for organizing its files. Instead it buries them to such an extreme degree that a casual user would have no idea at all how to find the files on their hard drive should the need arise.
When I have something in iphoto that needs some actual editing (other brightness/contrast or the silly "Enhance" button), I have to export the file to the desktop to open it in photoshop (and I DON't want to have to open photoshop every time i want to view something as other than a thumbnail). Then I have a file on my desktop thats different from its iphoto counterpart, which I could add to my library, but then iphoto would put that image in some other random ass directory, and we're back where we started. Boo.

Actually there is a much easier way to do this. If you already have Photoshop open or the icon in your dock, just drag the thumbnail of the image you want to edit from the iPhoto window onto the Photoshop dock icon. It will open in photoshop and when you save it, it will replace the version in iPhoto. Pieza de pan.

[aswitcher]

Originally Posted by TorbX

I want them to support small video flicks that I take with my Canon Ixus. I had to get myself a card-reading dongle where I insert my memorycard, in order to get them onto my computer.

Yes, that and voice would be excellent. It would be really good if iPhoto at least recongnised movies and pulled them off without the need for third party software to do the same even if it couldn't play them.

Also nice would be importing with more logical names for images that would be done by a prompt at the time of importing. IE
Start importing and the first block of shots for one day or hour would pop up a window saying what title do you want for these, then when it gets to the next logical break of an hour/day or whatever parameter you set, the same thing occurs, so that when they get into iPhoto you have far more meaningful titles that are fairly accurate for most of your material.

I would also like rating stars to appear on screen like iTunes for easy access

An option to have both rotate clockwise and anitclockwise not just one would be good. Supremely excellent if it could do this for little videos which even iMovie doesn't seem to offer.

Changing music and features for slide shows should be clickable on the screen and not through the menu preferences

Quick Time exports should supply different sizes as well as the manual change and also provide estimates of file size based on selection before export occurs...

[ehurtley]

Originally Posted by keltorsori

Actually there is a much easier way to do this. If you already have Photoshop open or the icon in your dock, just drag the thumbnail of the image you want to edit from the iPhoto window onto the Photoshop dock icon. It will open in photoshop and when you save it, it will replace the version in iPhoto. Pieza de pan.

Or, even easier, go to the iPhoto prefs, and set Photoshop as your 'External Editing' program, and set it so that on double-clicking a photo, it opens your external app. Now, when you double click on a pic in iPhoto, it opens in Photoshop. When you close it in Photoshop and save, it saves it back to your iPhoto library.

Personally, I love using iPhoto as an organization software, and use Photoshop for editing.

Also, I too would like to have iPhoto support the audio clips that my camera can associate with an app. (I made an iTunes playlist of the audio clips, and set an iPhoto slideshow with that playlist as the music. That's as close as I could get.)

The final complaint is searching! I want real searching back! I want to search my comments, keywords, titles, dates, roll names, etc. I want it in a nice little search box at the bottom like in iPhoto 2, with live-updating display like iTunes.

Bring back real search! (They'd better fix this before Tiger comes out. If iPhoto still has it's crappy-ass search when they have added such a powerful search to the OS, I'll be disappointed in the iLife software team.)

[encro]

Originally Posted by rikers_mailbox

soo. . a bit off topic, but can anyone think of a reason why digital cameras can't be bluetooth? BT is supposed to be the wireless equivilent of USB, no?

Why can't I pair a camera with my BT module and import photos?!

Maybe that will be in iPhoto 5.0, and work with an Apple-branded camera. Kidding, of course.

Edit: found one here, but it's not that cool.

Bluetooth is good for small amounts of data but trying to transfer high resolution images thru BT is overkill. While Bluetooth maybe the equivalent of wireless USB in use; it is by no means close to USB transfer rates (I'm reluctant to say speed )

[rikers_mailbox]

Originally Posted by encro

Bluetooth is good for small amounts of data but trying to transfer high resolution images thru BT is overkill. While Bluetooth maybe the equivalent of wireless USB in use; it is by no means close to USB transfer rates (I'm reluctant to say speed )

yes, makes sense now. Transferring high-res images through BT would be comparable to transferring music, file sizes can average around 4-6 Mb. Doesn't sound like fun waiting for that.

Moving to next-in-kin wired/wireless technology, there's Wireless Firewire (that just sounds weird). What is power consumption on that? And what are the theoretical vs. actual data rates?

Just being curious. Sorry to further perpetuate the off-topic.

[CmdrLaForge]

Originally Posted by ebow

I understand your annoyance, but the point of iPhoto is supposed to be "File structure? What's a file structure?" Seriously, though, it shows you pictures in rolls and/or albums, and the kind of user who just wants to tweak, arrange, and share photos won't care where the actual photo files are.

Exactly, and thats the spirit and thinking of using a Mac ! Why should you care what a file structure is ? Just use the App !

[JFreak]

Originally Posted by CmdrLaForge

Exactly, and thats the spirit and thinking of using a Mac ! Why should you care what a file structure is ? Just use the App !

yes, but intelligent file handling is an indication of an intelligent app i really love the way itunes handles files, so the same standard can be expected from iphoto as well. apple will be able to do better than this.

[sjk]

Yesterday I started a ~100MB with iPhoto 4.0.1 to CD-RW on my eMac, left for about an hour, and when I got back the disk appeared to have been burned (it was mounted) but iPhoto was still spinning its LSD cursor and the system had created four new swapfiles. Had to Force Quit.

Not a satisfying result for the first burn test with iPhoto 4 and eMac. Maybe I'll wait for 4.0.2 before trying again.

I'd like hierarchical album support in a future version and/or a way to temporarily hide albums that I'm not interested in seeing all the time. Same with iTunes playlists. And I foresee the need for UI enhancements to hide "uninteresting" information could become even more important with Spotlight technology in Tiger. I want UIs that make it convenient to find and focus attention on information that's relevant to the context of what I'm working on at the moment or else it can become a unwanted distraction.

Does anyone really need dozens or iPhoto Albums, iTunes playlists, etc. "visible" all the time? Tradtionally, hierarchies have been as useful for hiding things as organizing them but there are other possibilities ...

[robbieduncan]

Originally Posted by aswitcher

An option to have both rotate clockwise and anitclockwise not just one would be good.

Try holding down the option key! No really. The buttons in the bottom left change (for example rotate changes to be the other way).

[aswitcher]

Originally Posted by robbieduncan

Try holding down the option key! No really. The buttons in the bottom left change (for example rotate changes to be the other way).

Thanks!

[Demon]

are you allowed to have folder within another folder?
or an album within another album?
sub dividing the albums further? otherwise... there's going to be hundreds of albums sooner or later. terrible library system on iPhoto...

[notmenotyou]

Originally Posted by keltorsori

Actually there is a much easier way to do this. If you already have Photoshop open or the icon in your dock, just drag the thumbnail of the image you want to edit from the iPhoto window onto the Photoshop dock icon. It will open in photoshop and when you save it, it will replace the version in iPhoto. Pieza de pan.

very nice trick!!! didn't know that, and i think i will give iPhoto one more try, i hated iPhoto so much is because of the file structure, it's almost impossible to find the picture that i want so i can edit it in photoshop("export" is very inconvenient), you really make my day, thanks!!!

[mainstreetmark]

I noticed that I can't Picture Share with other users on the same computer. I'd like to have access to them without having to fast user switch to them.

[techgeek]

Originally Posted by mainstreetmark

I noticed that I can't Picture Share with other users on the same computer. I'd like to have access to them without having to fast user switch to them.

Agreed!
When I try, the share appears, cursor spins and share disapears.
Very disapointing.