Piracy Threatens App Store's Future

Artofilm · Nov 2, 2009, 03:32 PM

You Jailbreakers have to stop stealing stuff. Take a look at this recent article.
http://www.slidetoplay.com/story/fis...-stores-future

iphone1105 · Nov 2, 2009, 03:36 PM

Not all people who JB, are stealing. So dont lump us that way. I JB, for mywi, make it mine, intelliscreen, and quick reply. I have paid and purchased for all my apps, probably around $350 in total. So dont say all JB'ers rob devs, we dont.

Besides, the app store isnt in jeopardy, especially not because some crap website says so. I'll wait for apple to tell me the app store is doomed.

Thanks though

Unspoken Demise · Nov 2, 2009, 03:41 PM

He didnt say all JBers are pirates. But you have to be a JBer to pirate. Therefore, the statement "you JBers need to stop pirating" is 100% true.

jbennardo · Nov 2, 2009, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unspoken Demise

He did say all JBers are pirates. But you have to be a JBer to pirate. Therefore, the statement "you JBers need to stop pirating" is 100% true.

Yarrrrrr

Sorry, had to.

Unspoken Demise · Nov 2, 2009, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbennardo

Yarrrrrr

Sorry, had to.

Ye walk the plank fer yer mis-steppins.

Gyar.

Artofilm · Nov 2, 2009, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unspoken Demise

He didnt say all JBers are pirates. But you have to be a JBer to pirate. Therefore, the statement "you JBers need to stop pirating" is 100% true.

Thank you, Unspoken Demise. I don't see how I could word that any different anyways. It's not like non-jailbroken users can pirate apps.

I said, "you jailbreakers". I didn't say anyone specifically. The people who pirate know who you are, the others that don't shouldn't worry and take offence of this if you know you're not part of this group.

Pika · Nov 2, 2009, 04:05 PM

The JailBreaking community as caused me a loss of 80,000$ and it's time to take action against this.

Unspoken Demise · Nov 2, 2009, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pika

The JailBreaking community as caused me a loss of 80,000$ and it's time to take action against this.

Jeez. That sucks! Is that 80,000$ after Apple's cut? Sorry to hear that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Artofilm

Thank you, Unspoken Demise. I don't see how I could word that any different anyways. It's not like non-jailbroken users can pirate apps.

I said, "you jailbreakers". I didn't say anyone specifically. The people who pirate know who you are, the others that don't shouldn't worry and take offence of this if you know you're not part of this group.

You're welcome. I understood what you meant.

-aggie- · Nov 2, 2009, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pika

The JailBreaking community as caused me a loss of 80,000$ and it's time to take action against this.

How do you know that is the amount?

Jeremy1026 · Nov 2, 2009, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pika

The JailBreaking community as caused me a loss of 80,000$ and it's time to take action against this.

Just because you have 100k pirated users, doesn't mean that without pirating you would have an extra 100k paying users. Most pirates aren't going to buy your application anyway, so you can't count every pirated user as a lost sale. I'd say at best you are looking at 1 in 100 pirated users would buy your app if they couldn't get it for free. So you lost closer to $8,000, still a big loss, but no where near as bad as your initial figure makes it sound.

rwilliams · Nov 2, 2009, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pika

The JailBreaking community as caused me a loss of 80,000$ and it's time to take action against this.

Sorry to hear that, but I'm jailbroken and haven't pirated a single app, and don't even know how to (and don't care to either).

H. Flower · Nov 2, 2009, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pika

The JailBreaking community as caused me a loss of 80,000$ and it's time to take action against this.

I agree. Jailbreaking must be stopped, as it enables piracy.

People are losing thousands of dollars.....for what?

So others can have wallpaper behind their icons and run apps simultaneously? The cost far exceeds the benefits. Start attacking it, now.

ronldjnvtx · Nov 2, 2009, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iphone1105

Not all people who JB, are stealing. So dont lump us that way. I JB, for mywi, make it mine, intelliscreen, and quick reply. I have paid and purchased for all my apps, probably around $350 in total. So dont say all JB'ers rob devs, we dont.

Besides, the app store isnt in jeopardy, especially not because some crap website says so. I'll wait for apple to tell me the app store is doomed.

Thanks though

I agree with you you Apple should put a stop to being able jailbreak iphones.

armoguy94 · Nov 2, 2009, 06:17 PM

I agree, the piracy issue is big on the iPhone and that is unacceptable. I am in high school and one of the sole reasons people ask me to jailbreak their phone/ipod is so they can pirate (they don't say this to me, but it's obvious).

However, not all jailbreaks pirate. Maybe if Apple were more open, there would be no need for jailbreaking and if there was less jailbreaking then there would be much less pirating. Don't you think Apple is to blame here, at least a little bit?

Apple can try to prevent jailbreaking all they want but the real need here is for apple to be more open so not everyone will have to jailbreak.

bruinsrme · Nov 2, 2009, 06:44 PM

RipDev came up with a program called Kali.
If they, former jailbreaking gods, can make a program to protect developers apps, why hasn't another developer come up with something similar.

I jailbreak and buy my apps, so I couldn't care less what type of security is used.

Luap · Nov 2, 2009, 09:28 PM

I would bet on the percentage of iPhone/iPod touch users that bother to JB their phones to be in the vast minority. Sure, enthusiasts on forums like this are perhaps more likely to do it. But the average person on the street? Not so much..
Meaning piracy is highly unlikely to be as rife as the article makes out.

Besides, many apps are so cheap to buy, you'd have to be a seriously tight B@57@rd not to pay up.
And if the developer is making them too expensive, then I say it's their own fault if people pirate it.. Particularly if they are too lazy to protect the apps efficiently.

Im more concerned about con artists like the Mobile Chat clowns that were selling an app that didn't even nearly work. And next to no one got a refund for it either. Thats robbery right there.

Nov 2, 2009, 03:32 PM	#1
Artofilm macrumors 6502 Join Date: Oct 2005	Piracy Threatens App Store's Future You Jailbreakers have to stop stealing stuff. Take a look at this recent article. http://www.slidetoplay.com/story/fis...-stores-future __________________ MacPro 2x2.8Ghz Intel Xeon iPhone 3G 16GB iPod shuffle 1GB

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Unspoken Demise macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: JESUS SAVES...passes to Moses, shoots, SCORES!!!	He didnt say all JBers are pirates. But you have to be a JBer to pirate. Therefore, the statement "you JBers need to stop pirating" is 100% true. __________________ I hope that when the world comes to an end, I can breathe a sigh of relief, because there will be so much to look forward to...

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Pika macrumors 68000 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Japan	The JailBreaking community as caused me a loss of 80,000$ and it's time to take action against this. __________________ 2009 Apple Workstation

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bruinsrme macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Oct 2008	RipDev came up with a program called Kali. If they, former jailbreaking gods, can make a program to protect developers apps, why hasn't another developer come up with something similar. I jailbreak and buy my apps, so I couldn't care less what type of security is used. __________________ Jailbreakers protect yourself against worms click here. HEED to Apple's warnings, you jailbreaking thieving criminals. Think differently, buy a PC

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Nov 2, 2009, 03:36 PM	#2
iphone1105 macrumors newbie Join Date: Oct 2009	Not all people who JB, are stealing. So dont lump us that way. I JB, for mywi, make it mine, intelliscreen, and quick reply. I have paid and purchased for all my apps, probably around $350 in total. So dont say all JB'ers rob devs, we dont. Besides, the app store isnt in jeopardy, especially not because some crap website says so. I'll wait for apple to tell me the app store is doomed. Thanks though

Nov 2, 2009, 06:17 PM	#14
armoguy94 macrumors 6502 Join Date: Nov 2007	I agree, the piracy issue is big on the iPhone and that is unacceptable. I am in high school and one of the sole reasons people ask me to jailbreak their phone/ipod is so they can pirate (they don't say this to me, but it's obvious). However, not all jailbreaks pirate. Maybe if Apple were more open, there would be no need for jailbreaking and if there was less jailbreaking then there would be much less pirating. Don't you think Apple is to blame here, at least a little bit? Apple can try to prevent jailbreaking all they want but the real need here is for apple to be more open so not everyone will have to jailbreak.

Nov 2, 2009, 09:28 PM	#16
Luap macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jul 2004	I would bet on the percentage of iPhone/iPod touch users that bother to JB their phones to be in the vast minority. Sure, enthusiasts on forums like this are perhaps more likely to do it. But the average person on the street? Not so much.. Meaning piracy is highly unlikely to be as rife as the article makes out. Besides, many apps are so cheap to buy, you'd have to be a seriously tight B@57@rd not to pay up. And if the developer is making them too expensive, then I say it's their own fault if people pirate it.. Particularly if they are too lazy to protect the apps efficiently. Im more concerned about con artists like the Mobile Chat clowns that were selling an app that didn't even nearly work. And next to no one got a refund for it either. Thats robbery right there.