Brit Blog Names iPhone 'World's Worst'

[FearNo1]

So iphone service is also crappy in UK. So maybe its not at+t after all..?

http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home...ily-love_money

In June, Apple's Smartphone was the editors' choice at CNET UK. How times have changed.

"The iPhone may be the greatest handheld surfing device ever to rock the mobile Web, and a fabulous media player to boot," writes CNET UK's Flora Graham in a mock award citation posted Tuesday. "It may be the highest-rated mobile phone on CNET UK, rocking the pockets of half of our crack editorial team. It's certainly the touchscreen face that launched a thousand apps. But as an actual call-making phone, it's rubbish, and we aim to prove it."

[nehunte]

Opinions are worth what you paid for them. Calls make up a small percent of what typical iPhone users do while using their phone. Plus, after reading the article, I found a lot of those problems to be more of network issues rather than phone issues.

I live in Indianapolis and one of the Indianapolis Star columnists wrote an article completely bashing the iPhone (she owns a 3Gs). She talked about how if she wasn't locked into a contract with AT&T, she'd leave immediately and go get the Droid. She spoke as if the iPhone was the most inadequate phone in the history of the world. It completely blew me away.

But look at the iPhone, so many people have it. If that many people have the iPhone, it's not a bad device. It's very clear that what the media says is important on a phone doesn't mean anything. The great thing about capitalism is that consumers create the demand in the marketplace. Obviously, the consumers have spoken.

[bmstrong]

Interesting side to the issue.

[scaredpoet]

Originally Posted by nehunte

Opinions are worth what you paid for them. Calls make up a small percent of what typical iPhone users do while using their phone.

Actually, to make a generalization like that isn't really accurate. People use their iPhones in very unique ways. Data is a big part, but I use quite a few voice minutes too.

That said, CNET UK's generalizations aren't accurate for everyone either. I haven't had any of the problems they've claimed the iPhone is so universally plagued with.

Truth be told, the phone side of the iPhone is a lot like any other phone. Some people love it and have great experiences, and others hate it. We just give more attention to the iPhone because, well it's the iPhone, and everyone assumes that if they don't love the iPhone, it's because it must suck.

[nehunte]

Originally Posted by scaredpoet

Actually, to make a generalization like that isn't really accurate. People use their iPhones in very unique ways. Data is a big part, but I use quite a few voice minutes too.

You are making a generalization that people use their iPhone uniquely based on your personal usage of voice minutes.

It has been shown that iPhone users use 10X as much data on average. I did state in my OP, that calls are a small part of use for 'typical' users. There are some who talk on their iPhone a lot. I use over 1,000 minutes per month, which is more than most but by no means a high number. But when you break it down to how often is the phone actually in my hand making a phone call, it is certainly less than 10%. Do I have any proof that I'm right, no. But I certainly don't think I'm wrong either.

[mgamber]

Originally Posted by nehunte

Calls make up a small percent of what typical iPhone users do while using their phone.

IT'S A PHONE! I don't give a **** what else you can do with it, IT'S A PHONE! Check this out: iPhone. It's in the name!

Originally Posted by nehunte

But look at the iPhone, so many people have it. If that many people have the iPhone, it's not a bad device.

Look at some of the flaming idiots lots of people vote for in elections. Look at some of the garbage lots of people buy. Walmart is one of the largest stores in the US and they sell almost nothing but cheap, near worthless trash. Numbers mean it's popular, period. They say nothing about quality. Millions of people can be wrong and I can point to eight years of recent US history that prove it.

That having been said, the iPhone isn't awful, it's certainly not the worst phone I've ever owned, but it's probably the worst phone I own right now. Compared to my Fuze, Blackberry 8800 and Android phone, the radio has pretty bad reception and audio is flat and far too quiet. It might be a good device but as a phone it blows and if I just a portable network device, I'd have put a sim card in my netbook's 3G card.

[Primejimbo]

Originally Posted by mgamber

IT'S A PHONE! I don't give a **** what else you can do with it, IT'S A PHONE! Check this out: iPhone. It's in the name!



Look at some of the flaming idiots lots of people vote for in elections. Look at some of the garbage lots of people buy. Walmart is one of the largest stores in the US and they sell almost nothing but cheap, near worthless trash. Numbers mean it's popular, period. They say nothing about quality. Millions of people can be wrong and I can point to eight years of recent US history that prove it.

That having been said, the iPhone isn't awful, it's certainly not the worst phone I've ever owned, but it's probably the worst phone I own right now. Compared to my Fuze, Blackberry 8800 and Android phone, the radio has pretty bad reception and audio is flat and far too quiet. It might be a good device but as a phone it blows and if I just a portable network device, I'd have put a sim card in my netbook's 3G card.

I'm not a Walmart fan, but Target, Koals and Walmart sell Wrangler Jeans, I get it where I get them the cheapest. Walmart sells the same "cheap, near worthless trash" as Target and any other place. They both sell Wrangler jeans, Rubbermaid stuff, Nike shoes, and the list goes on. So again how does Walmart sell "cheap, near worthless trash" when they sell the same stuff as Target and Kmart?

[DrewG5]

Originally Posted by Primejimbo

I'm not a Walmart fan, but Target, Koals and Walmart sell Wrangler Jeans, I get it where I get them the cheapest. Walmart sells the same "cheap, near worthless trash" as Target and any other place. They both sell Wrangler jeans, Rubbermaid stuff, Nike shoes, and the list goes on. So again how does Walmart sell "cheap, near worthless trash" when they sell the same stuff as Target and Kmart?

Because they all sell the same worthless crap, the difference is in the name on the door. All of the products you mentioned where never intended to last.

[Primejimbo]

Originally Posted by DrewG5

Because they all sell the same worthless crap, the difference is in the name on the door. All of the products you mentioned where never intended to last.

Nothing lasts. I buy work pants, and use them to climb polls, go in manholes, crawl around in them. How do you expect them to last? You really expect a $100.00 jeans from abercrombie will last through that? Now the Rubbermaid box I have in my house have lasted over 20 yrs so I guess some things were made to last.

[mgamber]

Originally Posted by Primejimbo

I'm not a Walmart fan, but Target, Koals and Walmart sell Wrangler Jeans, I get it where I get them the cheapest. Walmart sells the same "cheap, near worthless trash" as Target and any other place. They both sell Wrangler jeans, Rubbermaid stuff, Nike shoes, and the list goes on. So again how does Walmart sell "cheap, near worthless trash" when they sell the same stuff as Target and Kmart?

Uh....are you really going to argue about a generalized example used to demonstrate a larger picture? I'm not, I made my point. Choose your battles a little better.

[Primejimbo]

Originally Posted by mgamber

Uh....are you really going to argue about a generalized example used to demonstrate a larger picture? I'm not, I made my point. Choose your battles a little better.

and what point was that?

[Maverick1337]

According to http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home...ily-love_money it is. I would have to say I don't believe it at all.

Your guys' thoughts?

[klamse25]

Originally Posted by Maverick1337

According to http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home...ily-love_money it is. I would have to say I don't believe it at all.

Your guys' thoughts?

I believe that's just a troll ranting about it.

[Battery Pulse]

Originally Posted by klamse25

I believe that's just a troll ranting about it.

The author did make some valid points though. As a phone, the iPhone is beat by other devices and could be deemed average, but as a pocket sized personal comp it's quite superior. If Apple improves call quality and battery life, it would be an almost perfect device.

[milani]

Terrible article, but the author does raise some valid points about the iPhone's phone app (the no-ring problem has plagued my phone countless times). There are a lot of things that suck about the phone aspect of the iPhone, no doubt, but there are also a lot of really innovate or very slick features that should be noted. Here are a couple of good things I can think of about the iPhone's phone app:

Visual voicemail is absolutely phenomenal. Just think about how you used to get your voicemail. Another great thing about the iPhone is that it's really easily to merge contacts into calls. I must confess I haven't used this feature much (at all) prior to the iPhone, but the ability to quickly put someone on hold, add another person (or several people) to a conference call is quite nice. It's also nice to be able to use other apps while talking on the phone - great if you're doing a conference call and need to check something.

I think we can all agree that the iPhone was a pretty successful first effort by Apple (incredibly successful). I honestly can't think of another company that stepped into a sector that they really had no practical experience in and had the kind of success that Apple did. That being said, there is always room for improvement - even if we'd like to think the iPhone is the be-all-end-all of everything.

[peperoni]

Don't agree completely with that article, but I agree that phone isn't iPhone best part. IMO it's pretty lousy compared to my previous phones.

What's really funny is this "iPhone is great, let's blame AT&T" mentality. Do you see it a bit weird that AT&T is in any kind of responsibility for the problems in UK iPhones? That was an UK based blog... Could it be that all the operators that sell iPhones are crappy or could it be that iPhone just ain't that good as a phone?

[greygray]

She must have been paid by pcrumors to write this article.

[LIVEFRMNYC]

The iPhone is a decent phone for me. Call quality and speaker phone are nothing to complain about on my end. I have no problem with dropped calls, sound quality, or speaker.

I've had phones with much better phone & speaker quality but the Iphone's quality works more than well enough for me.

[Goona]

If the iphone with the highest satisfaction rates in the industry is the worst phone, then what can we say about other phones?

[matttye]

If you actually read the entire article she makes very good points.

The iPhone isn't all that great at being a phone. The speakers are poor and there's been SO many complaints about poor reception; it can't all be down to the networks!

[Maverick1337]

Originally Posted by matttye

If you actually read the entire article she makes very good points.

The iPhone isn't all that great at being a phone. The speakers are poor and there's been SO many complaints about poor reception; it can't all be down to the networks!

I would have to say it would all depend on the networks. The iphone is a very data intensive phone that AT&T didn't predict. In my little part of Poly Canyon in San Luis Obispo, there is a blank spot of reception unfortunately right where I live. I know the phone isn't that loud but I would have to say that it's a great phone. I never had a problem with dropped calls until i moved out here where the reception is bad. I would have to pin it all on AT&T because where I lived in good reception, the phone was amazing..as a phone, but without reception, how else would you figure you're getting dropped calls, none other than the cell companies. Anyways, that's how I look at it anyways.

[matttye]

Originally Posted by Maverick1337

I know the phone isn't that loud but I would have to say that it's a great phone.

That sentence contradicts itself. A phone cannot be a great phone unless it is able to produce loud, clear audio.

When I had the 1st gen iPhone I could not even use it next to a road because the sound of traffic would drown out whoever I was speaking to. The 3G/3GS are better but I still can't comfortably hear people when there's background noise.

I have a Nokia 5800 now, and it's not as fun as the iPhone but it is a much better phone. I don't constantly have to shout WHAT? during a conversation

[Maverick1337]

Originally Posted by matttye

That sentence contradicts itself. A phone cannot be a great phone unless it is able to produce loud, clear audio.

When I had the 1st gen iPhone I could not even use it next to a road because the sound of traffic would drown out whoever I was speaking to. The 3G/3GS are better but I still can't comfortably hear people when there's background noise.

I have a Nokia 5800 now, and it's not as fun as the iPhone but it is a much better phone. I don't constantly have to shout WHAT? during a conversation

My sentence didnt contradict itself. I was talking more about the speaker phone in that it's not as loud as say a blackberry but it definitely is great quality. I don't constantly shout "WHAT DID YOU SAY" in my phone if that's what you're talking about. I think it's great as a phone and all the other processes make it the best in my opinion.

[chandsa]

Glad that i'm not the only one that thinks that the iPhone is a piece of crap! I will have to agree that the frequency of dropped calls is a function of the network reception, however, having lived in an area with excellent AT&T reception I have been experiencing far too many dropped calls and so is my wife, who lives in the New Orleans metro, where AT&T claims that it has "excellent" reception.

For the past 2 weeks after updating the firmware to the latest version, my wife and I have been experiencing dropped calls, dropped txt messages. We have been to AT&T, had our SIM cards swapped out and then been to the Apple stores and fought with the technicians at both stores to get them to understand that there is a problem with the phones we have. But they don't want to seem to hear any of it.

It just frustrates the heck out of me when I know that there are problems with the phones we've been given and neither company will come forward and address the issue. Seriously, this recent experience has led me to believe that Apple with all its innovative designs and what not can't make a simple exchange for a defective product.

I have posted in other threads too about my iPhone malfunctioning and quite honestly at this point I seriously wish I had invested my $$$ in a Roth IRA than give it to these unscrupulous companies claiming to be innovative when they put out ****** product.

Yes I understand that the units i've got might be defective, but the problem I have is why won't the companies fix the issue and admit that the unit is defective and replace them with either refurbished one's or new ones, especially since they are still under warranty. I'm led to conclude that they are doing this to prolong the problem and turn a deaf ear, so that when the warranty expires they can claim that its out of warranty and they can no longer replace the defective unit.

Whatever it is, it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth for the way these companies have treated me. Enough said!

[Ericatomars]

It was a pretty lame argurment... Really burning your face? "the iphone sucks- so what?" really like is that suppose to make people wanna trade it in that second. Yes I will agree the battery isn't it's strongest point and blame AT&T for the dropped calls not the iphone.

I think this is a terrible attempt to try to make an argument... Some soild points but nothing solid to hold it down