I'm at home watching TV and all of a sudden my TV goes out and my monster surge protect is making a terrible noise. Did it blow? My tv/cable box etc won't turn on...
Sounds to me like it might have done its job.I'm at home watching TV and all of a sudden my TV goes out and my monster surge protect is making a terrible noise. Did it blow? My tv/cable box etc won't turn on...
A protector does it job when nobody even knows the surge existed. Effective protectors are installed to even make lightning irrelevant. But grossly undersized (and obscenely overpriced - Monster) protectors fail so that the naive will recommend them.
Will that 2 cm part inside the Monster stop what three miles of sky could not?
Meanwhile, scary pictures show what happens when the protector is undersized and located in the wrong location:
http://www.hanford.gov/rl/?page=556&parent=554
http://www.ddxg.net/old/surge_protectors.htm
http://www.zerosurge.com/HTML/movs.html
http://www3.cw56.com/news/articles/local/BO63312/
http://www.nmsu.edu/~safety/news/les...tectorfire.htm
http://www.pennsburgfireco.com/fullstory.php?58339
If working properly, the protector simply earths a surge and remains functional. Does not make noise. That is why informed homeonwers install one 'whole house' protector with proper earthing. For every protector, this applies: a protector is only as effective as its earth ground.
Your observation verses my decades of design experience? Which one knows?In my experience the monster ones tend to sacrifice themselves in an effort to save the devices attached to it.
Your observation verses my decades of design experience? Which one knows?
The surge confronts the appliance and surge protector equally. All appliances contain protection. A surge too small to overwhelm protection inside the appliance easily destroys your Monster Cable protector? You call that protection?
That's the scam that gets the naive to recommend a protector. Take a $3 power strip. Add some ten cent protector parts and some fancy paint. Sell it for $60 or $150. Why do TV salesmen spend so much time selling the protector? They know where the profit lies. Its not a protector for protection. Its a protector for profits. It is recommended by a majority only because retail sales promote it and because an overwhelming majority have never heard of the 'whole house' protector.
How has protection been done for over 100 years? The concept used in 'whole house' protectors. What will magically stop what three miles of sky could not? Monster. Monster has a long history of selling scam - including speaker wire with polarity. Monster was selling $7 speaker wire for $70 because they claimed speaker wire has polarity and their wire had that polarity marked. And many also recommended that Monster speaker wire - using the same logic that promotes their protector.
The only effective protector make a short (ie 'less than 10 foot') connection to single point earth ground. Monster even avoids discussing that. Why should they. Monster is not selling to this engineer with decades of design knowledge. Monster is selling to those who used hearsay and speculation to convert assumptions into fact. A $3 power strip with some ten cent protector parts sells for $150. And it does not even claim to provide protection in its numeric specs. No problem. The least informed always ignore the numbers. Assume it is more expensive; therefore must be better. Scam.
That's the scam that gets the naive to recommend a protector. Take a $3 power strip. Add some ten cent protector parts and some fancy paint. Sell it for $60 or $150. Why do TV salesmen spend so much time selling the protector? They know where the profit lies. Its not a protector for protection. Its a protector for profits. It is recommended by a majority only because retail sales promote it and because an overwhelming majority have never heard of the 'whole house' protector.
I'm at home watching TV and all of a sudden my TV goes out and my monster surge protect is making a terrible noise. Did it blow? My tv/cable box etc won't turn on...
Seriously, what everyone else is staying is true. They are no better then anything else out there, and often are actually worse.
Any of the surge protectors will work.
At what point do you first ask some embarrassing questions. Such as what does it do and how does it do it? What does it actually claim to do in numbers - the manufacturer's numeric specs?So i was going to go best buy to buy a new one, any recommendations of other brands?
Where did I say we disagreed?I'm confused; what are we arguing about? I thought I agreed with you.
So i was going to go best buy to buy a new one, any recommendations of other brands?
Your observation verses my decades of design experience? Which one knows?
The same protector circuit in the Monster Cable is also sold in APC, Belkin, and Tripplite. View their numeric specs. Each has the same protection specs as the Monster - does not list numbers for protection from each type of surge. Each is equivalent to a protector selling at a profit for $7 at the grocery store. Monster simply saw a scam and then charged even more for the same protector.I would say any brand that doesn't contain the word "Monster" would be a good start!
you can get
superb ones at places like monoprice.com for a fraction of the price.
Your observation verses my decades of design experience? Which one knows?
The surge confronts the appliance and surge protector equally. All appliances contain protection. A surge too small to overwhelm protection inside the appliance easily destroys your Monster Cable protector? You call that protection?
That's the scam that gets the naive to recommend a protector. Take a $3 power strip. Add some ten cent protector parts and some fancy paint. Sell it for $60 or $150. Why do TV salesmen spend so much time selling the protector? They know where the profit lies. Its not a protector for protection. Its a protector for profits. It is recommended by a majority only because retail sales promote it and because an overwhelming majority have never heard of the 'whole house' protector.
How has protection been done for over 100 years? The concept used in 'whole house' protectors. What will magically stop what three miles of sky could not? Monster. Monster has a long history of selling scam - including speaker wire with polarity. Monster was selling $7 speaker wire for $70 because they claimed speaker wire has polarity and their wire had that polarity marked. And many also recommended that Monster speaker wire - using the same logic that promotes their protector.
The only effective protector make a short (ie 'less than 10 foot') connection to single point earth ground. Monster even avoids discussing that. Why should they. Monster is not selling to this engineer with decades of design knowledge. Monster is selling to those who used hearsay and speculation to convert assumptions into fact. A $3 power strip with some ten cent protector parts sells for $150. And it does not even claim to provide protection in its numeric specs. No problem. The least informed always ignore the numbers. Assume it is more expensive; therefore must be better. Scam.
I have to agree Monster is a pure scam company.
Years ago I worked at Circuit City and the monster reps ensured the store would set up phony displays showing "monster cables" vs "regular cables" but the "regular cables" were always either a different type of cable (composite instead of component) or such a horrible cable that it lost signal going through it. I was floored the first time I saw this scam.
Monster just makes up ******** and tech jargon to sound good to buyers. If you could see what the store pays for those $150 monster power strips (Roughly $14) you'd realize how much of a ripoff that company is.
So i was going to go best buy to buy a new one, any recommendations of other brands?
A well proven trend observed in free markets. A larger warranty implies a worse product. GM is currently hyping a 5 years 100,000 mile warranty. Therefore GM cars are superior to Honda and Toyota? That is your reasoning.As other stated, forego getting Monster again. Of note is that almost any major brand of surge protector has an equipment warranty so that if it fails, they will replace any equipment that gets fried.
A larger warranty implies a worse product... So they hype a big buck warranty...
The Belkin 1) has no dedicated connection short to earth.
... That is why informed homeonwers install one 'whole house' protector with proper earthing. For every protector, this applies: a protector is only as effective as its earth ground.