Apple & Apple Corps Settlement?

MacRumors · Sep 13, 2004, 02:35 PM

According to Daily Variety (subscription required) in a story also picked up by Ultimate-Guitar.com, Apple Computer and Apple Corps are on the verge of announcing a huge settlement in their ongoing trademark dispute, one that could "massively dwarf the $26.5 million paid to the Fab Four's company in 1991 in a row over trademark use."

A lawyer was quoted in these stories as opining, "People are expecting this to be the biggest settlement anywhere in legal history, outside of a class action suit. The numbers could be mind boggling." The name of this lawyer wasn't disclosed, nor how he would be in possession of inside knowledge of the alleged impending settlement.

There is a possibility that Apple Corps may become a large shareholder in Apple Computer, a result which might bring former Beatle Paul McCartney to the Apple board of directors.

Mudbug · 02:40 PM

I think an obvious question raised by this is 'is the Beatles catalog going to be available on iTMS or not?'

sinisterdesign · Sep 13, 2004, 02:38 PM

WTF? i love the beatles, but this kind of thing really chaffs my ass. has ANYONE ever confused Apple Computer w/ being a part of the Beatles music label? did someone mistakingly think that Paul & Ringo created the iPod? c'mon...

hey paul, is this how you're going to buy back your music from michael? the price may be right now that he's got some legal fees to pay.

GFLPraxis · Sep 13, 2004, 02:42 PM

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Apple Computer and Apple Corps are on the verge of announcing a huge settlement in their ongoing trademark dispute, one that could "massively dwarf the $26.5 million paid to the Fab Four's company in 1991 in a row over trademark use."

In favor of whom?

Grizelmac · Sep 13, 2004, 02:45 PM

I'm not sure where I stand on all of this, but it would be nice to get a roadblock out of Apple's way, and let them get some good news, good buzz, and keep making great products.

If Paul was on the board, Apple would continue to gain street cred, and continue to rock ;-)

trilogic · Sep 13, 2004, 02:46 PM

lawyers and the us law

man am I glad we don't have this huge lawyer-industry in europe

zach · Sep 13, 2004, 02:47 PM

I dunno.. I just hope the numbers in this aren't as big as I'm thinking they'll be.. If they're not, everything's great, and we get Beatles on iTMS (probably).

If they are.. We'll see.

maelstromr · Sep 13, 2004, 02:49 PM

Boooooooo Beatles! Give me a break! Apple records and Apple computer, yeah, lot's of consumers are SO confused about this.

iconrad · Sep 13, 2004, 02:49 PM

I hope this doesn't happen. I love apple, this would put a major dent in their 5 billion in cash.

Peyote · Sep 13, 2004, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trilogic

lawyers and the us law

man am I glad we don't have this huge lawyer-industry in europe

It's a European company that's filing the suit, and the legal proceedings are being held in Europe.

isaacc7 · Sep 13, 2004, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mudbug

I think an obvious question raised by this is 'is the Beatles catalog going to be available on iTMS or not?'

I thought that Michael Jackson was in charge of that...

Isaac

Koree · Sep 13, 2004, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sinisterdesign

WTF? i love the beatles, but this kind of thing really chaffs my ass. has ANYONE ever confused Apple Computer w/ being a part of the Beatles music label? did someone mistakingly think that Paul & Ringo created the iPod? c'mon...

hey paul, is this how you're going to buy back your music from michael? the price may be right now that he's got some legal fees to pay.

Quote:

Originally Posted by silvergunuk

Down with the Beatles and their out of date tripe. Begone Paul Mcartney you money hungry talentless musician.

Guys, you do know that there is an aggreement with the two companies agreeing that Apple UK wouldn't make computers and Apple US wouldn't sell music, right? Apple US does owe money. But it'll be settled, Apple US does owe money to Apple UK.

morkintosh · Sep 13, 2004, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silvergunuk

Down with the Beatles and their out of date tripe. Begone Paul Mcartney you money hungry talentless musician.

ummm... as to talentless I'm going to let his sales speak to that, on the other topic:

Apple is clearly in violation of their agreement, its a legal fact. They brokered a deal whereby they would not enter the music arena with their similar name, they have done that and then are bound by the agreement. The Beatles had the name first and Apple computer has to pay to use it, what is the problem?

isaacc7 · Sep 13, 2004, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silvergunuk

Down with the Beatles and their out of date tripe. Begone Paul Mcartney you money hungry talentless musician.

like them or not, there's no doubt that there's money to be had with those old recordings.

Isaac

morkintosh · Sep 13, 2004, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maelstromr

Boooooooo Beatles! Give me a break! Apple records and Apple computer, yeah, lot's of consumers are SO confused about this.

It has nothing to do with confusion it has everything to do with the fact that Apple Computer under Steve Jobs agreed to not enter the music business. The angle to take on this in favor of Apple computer is to argue that they still aren't in the music business; otherwise that facts are what they are and Apple computer is in violation of an agreement.

EDIT: trademark law is trademark law, if you don't like it call your congressman. I think most of us would be singing a different tune if Microsoft started marketing TVs under the name Apple Consumer Electronics.

ValiumLolliPoP · Sep 13, 2004, 02:55 PM

Why would apple settle this?? do they have no confidence what so ever? was there really no chance of winning this?

AoWolf · Sep 13, 2004, 02:56 PM

This whole thing is so stupid it's not like the beetles suffered any loss due to apples name.

Freg3000 · Sep 13, 2004, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ValiumLolliPoP

Why would apple settle this?? do they have no confidence what so ever? was there really no chance of winning this?

It's probably a huge deal involving the Beatles on iTMS, and an agreement for this stupid issue to be put to rest forever.

The cost of that could be high...

johnnyjibbs · Sep 13, 2004, 02:57 PM

It is true that Apple Computer has violated the agreement with the advent of iTunes and the iPod. However, who could confuse Apple Computer with the Apple music label?

The former Beatles stars would do much better if they put all their music on iTMS. I think this could well happen now, although I'm sure Apple will be the one paying for it.

kerb · Sep 13, 2004, 02:58 PM

do Apple Records have a problem with the fruit of the same name?

robotrenegade · Sep 13, 2004, 02:59 PM

What is Apple Corp?

Hardy

corywoolf · Sep 13, 2004, 02:59 PM

Its impossible for apple to totally change their name, but maybe they could go with something similair or just change it enough to take away ALL the confusion. I think apple computers should sell the beatles on the iTMS, but in return give all of the money to Apple Corps. I can see it already...

The Beatles are coming... and have like a whole front page decked out in beatles vintage pictures, etc. for a week. I wish apple comp. and apple corp made a deal that the only online music store with the beatles on it is iTMS. Take that Real Player..

raynegus · 03:02 PM

Anyone have the GPS coordinates of Abbey Road studios? Maybe someone here could send a nuke their way.

What bugs me the most about this is the trouble I go through to convert winblows folks to macs, only to support a few old greedy lawyers in the end.

Look in the phone book and you'll find hundreds of companies with Apple in the name. WTF!!!!!

JohnGillilan · Sep 13, 2004, 03:00 PM

Apple Corp. is suing the website "Battles Beetles" due to a breach of a former agreement stating that the webmasters had no right to listen to music while their beetles were battling.

alexf · Sep 13, 2004, 03:00 PM

Paul McCartney on the board of Apple?

Sounds cool!

Sep 13, 2004, 02:35 PM	#1
MacRumors macrumors bot Join Date: Apr 2001	Apple & Apple Corps Settlement? According to Daily Variety (subscription required) in a story also picked up by Ultimate-Guitar.com, Apple Computer and Apple Corps are on the verge of announcing a huge settlement in their ongoing trademark dispute, one that could "massively dwarf the $26.5 million paid to the Fab Four's company in 1991 in a row over trademark use." A lawyer was quoted in these stories as opining, "People are expecting this to be the biggest settlement anywhere in legal history, outside of a class action suit. The numbers could be mind boggling." The name of this lawyer wasn't disclosed, nor how he would be in possession of inside knowledge of the alleged impending settlement. There is a possibility that Apple Corps may become a large shareholder in Apple Computer, a result which might bring former Beatle Paul McCartney to the Apple board of directors.

Sep 13, 2004, 02:38 PM	#2
Mudbug macrumors god Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Northwest Louisiana	I think an obvious question raised by this is 'is the Beatles catalog going to be available on iTMS or not?' __________________ happy thankschrismahanakwaanzicasmasgiving. Last edited by Mudbug : Sep 13, 2004 at 02:40 PM. Reason: first post!!!!111!!1one1one1!! <-- see? it's even stupid when I do it.

Sep 13, 2004, 02:38 PM	#3
sinisterdesign macrumors 6502 Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: atlanta	WTF? WTF? i love the beatles, but this kind of thing really chaffs my ass. has ANYONE ever confused Apple Computer w/ being a part of the Beatles music label? did someone mistakingly think that Paul & Ringo created the iPod? c'mon... hey paul, is this how you're going to buy back your music from michael? the price may be right now that he's got some legal fees to pay. __________________ DESKTOP \| dual 3GHz Mac Pro & 30" Cinema Display LAPTOP \| 2.4GHz 15" Macbook Pro iTHINGS \| 32GB iPhone, 80GB iPod

Sep 13, 2004, 02:45 PM	#5
Grizelmac macrumors newbie Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: CA	Wow. I wondered where this lawsuit went I'm not sure where I stand on all of this, but it would be nice to get a roadblock out of Apple's way, and let them get some good news, good buzz, and keep making great products. If Paul was on the board, Apple would continue to gain street cred, and continue to rock ;-)

Sep 13, 2004, 02:47 PM	#7
zach macrumors 65816 Join Date: Feb 2003	I dunno.. I just hope the numbers in this aren't as big as I'm thinking they'll be.. If they're not, everything's great, and we get Beatles on iTMS (probably). If they are.. We'll see. __________________ MacBook Pro Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz you, you're a history in rust

Sep 13, 2004, 02:46 PM	#6
trilogic macrumors member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Switzerland	lawyers and the us law man am I glad we don't have this huge lawyer-industry in europe

Sep 13, 2004, 02:49 PM	#8
maelstromr macrumors 6502 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Boston, MA	Boooooooo Beatles! Give me a break! Apple records and Apple computer, yeah, lot's of consumers are SO confused about this. __________________ Mac Pro 8 Core 2.8 ghz 15" 1.67G4PB/1.25G4FW800/G3 500mhz Pismo/PM 9500 (G4 Upgraded)/B&W G3 350/PM 7100/Quadra 605

Sep 13, 2004, 02:49 PM	#9
iconrad macrumors member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Canonsburg, PA	I hope this doesn't happen. I love apple, this would put a major dent in their 5 billion in cash.

Sep 13, 2004, 02:55 PM	#16
ValiumLolliPoP macrumors newbie Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: New Jersey	:-( Why would apple settle this?? do they have no confidence what so ever? was there really no chance of winning this? __________________ 1.2 ghz 14" G4 ibook 512 mb RAM 60 gigs Airport Extreme The start of a new beginning... ...I'll never go back THINK DIFFERENT!

Sep 13, 2004, 02:56 PM	#17
AoWolf macrumors 6502a Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Daytona Beach	This whole thing is so stupid it's not like the beetles suffered any loss due to apples name. __________________ I do not exist 1.6 Ghz. MacBook Air

Sep 13, 2004, 02:57 PM	#19
johnnyjibbs macrumors 68030 Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: London, UK	It is true that Apple Computer has violated the agreement with the advent of iTunes and the iPod. However, who could confuse Apple Computer with the Apple music label? The former Beatles stars would do much better if they put all their music on iTMS. I think this could well happen now, although I'm sure Apple will be the one paying for it. __________________ johngriffithsapps.com - Get It Done! \| Grocery Checkout 15" MBP, iPhone 3G, 12" PB, iPod 4G, iPod shuffle

Sep 13, 2004, 02:58 PM	#20
kerb macrumors regular Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Lancashire UK	do Apple Records have a problem with the fruit of the same name? __________________ 12" PowerBook G4 1.33Ghz 768MB RAM Mac Mini 1.25Ghz 512MB RAM 20GB Clickwheel iPod 512MB iPod Shuffle

Sep 13, 2004, 02:59 PM	#21
robotrenegade macrumors 6502a Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Greenville,SC	What is Apple Corp? Hardy __________________ 60GB iPod \| 17" Mac Book Pro \| Mac OS 10.5.4 \| 8GB iphone

Sep 13, 2004, 02:59 PM	#22
corywoolf macrumors 65816 Join Date: Jun 2004	Apple may change their name slightly? Its impossible for apple to totally change their name, but maybe they could go with something similair or just change it enough to take away ALL the confusion. I think apple computers should sell the beatles on the iTMS, but in return give all of the money to Apple Corps. I can see it already... The Beatles are coming... and have like a whole front page decked out in beatles vintage pictures, etc. for a week. I wish apple comp. and apple corp made a deal that the only online music store with the beatles on it is iTMS. Take that Real Player..

Sep 13, 2004, 02:59 PM	#23
raynegus macrumors regular Join Date: Jul 2003	Anyone have the GPS coordinates of Abbey Road studios? Maybe someone here could send a nuke their way. What bugs me the most about this is the trouble I go through to convert winblows folks to macs, only to support a few old greedy lawyers in the end. Look in the phone book and you'll find hundreds of companies with Apple in the name. WTF!!!!! Last edited by raynegus : Sep 13, 2004 at 03:02 PM.

Sep 13, 2004, 03:00 PM	#24
JohnGillilan macrumors regular Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Los Angeles	In other news . . . Apple Corp. is suing the website "Battles Beetles" due to a breach of a former agreement stating that the webmasters had no right to listen to music while their beetles were battling. __________________ "If you've got beef, eat a porkchop." -- Coolio

Sep 13, 2004, 03:00 PM	#25
alexf macrumors 6502a Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Planet Earth	Paul McCartney on the board of Apple? Sounds cool! __________________ "Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." -Mark Twain

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