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Old Apr 3, 2010, 04:15 PM   #1
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Got an Ipad can't figure out voiceover/text to speech

The biggest reason I wanted an Ipad was so that I could use to read to me books while I commute to work. From what I read prior to release voiceover is the what Apple will use for text to speech according to Wired.com

I went by today to pick it up and the people in the store knew about as much as I did about the Ipad. We sat and played with it for about an hour trying to figure out how to get voiceover to work in ibooks. The store gave up and said just take it home and if you can't figure it out within 14 days bring it back for a refund. I got it home and was able to finally figure out voiceover in ibooks. It's kind of annoying b/c you still have to flip each page to get it to read on through the book. (not a good idea while driving)

Does anyone know if you can just set it to start reading until you tell it to stop?

Does anyone know if you can get voiceover to work within the kindle app? (I have tried everything I know and can't even get it to read a single line in the app)

Any help is greatly appreciated!

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Old Apr 4, 2010, 03:13 AM   #2
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http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/iPad_User_Guide.pdf

In there is an accesibility section which tells you all about VoiceOver gestures. Trying to tutor you (for want of a better word) on how to use vo would be hard going on a forum. Apple explain it better anyhow.

As for the Kindle app - as Amazon caved in to the Authors Guild over tts on the hardware Kindle, I doubt the Kindle ipad app would be VoiceOver compatible either. Not all apps are. So you might be crap out of luck there.

Can't help you on the having to turn pages in iBooks automatically with vo either, as I am in the UK and don't have an ipad yet.
Hope the user manual helps though.
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Old Apr 4, 2010, 03:22 AM   #3
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Just as an aside - this won't help you I'm afraid but could I ask you to give me a hand with an ipad question ?
In iBooks you can change the font size. Could you give it a spin and enlarge the font(s) as big as they go, and post a pic ?
I use VoiceOver on my iPhone (and mac) but was hoping to use my remaining crappy eyesight to acually read the books myself in iBooks. If I knew how big the font could go this might give me an idea if this were going to be possible.
Many thanks if you can help me out.
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Old Apr 4, 2010, 03:39 AM   #4
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If u want an awesome text speech app its called "speak it!" I use it on my iPhone tom ready back emails, and they just updated it with native support for the iPad. Voices are amazing.
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Some prior discussion on this topic here

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthre...843&highlight=
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Old Apr 4, 2010, 04:07 AM   #6
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Maybe you would be better off with actual audiobooks? Check out audible.com, they're owned by Amazon.
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Old Apr 4, 2010, 09:25 AM   #7
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If u want an awesome text speech app its called "speak it!" I use it on my iPhone tom ready back emails, and they just updated it with native support for the iPad. Voices are amazing.
Do you have any idea if it will read continuously through a book or if it will work in the kindle app?
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Old Apr 4, 2010, 09:28 AM   #8
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Just as an aside - this won't help you I'm afraid but could I ask you to give me a hand with an ipad question ?
In iBooks you can change the font size. Could you give it a spin and enlarge the font(s) as big as they go, and post a pic ?
I use VoiceOver on my iPhone (and mac) but was hoping to use my remaining crappy eyesight to acually read the books myself in iBooks. If I knew how big the font could go this might give me an idea if this were going to be possible.
Many thanks if you can help me out.
Sure here is the smallest


Largest


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Old Apr 4, 2010, 09:31 AM   #9
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Maybe you would be better off with actual audiobooks? Check out audible.com, they're owned by Amazon.
yeah I would definitely get that over having it try to read the screen but most of the books I want to read/hear (physics/biology/old stuff) doesn't have enough support for anyone to make audio books for them.
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Sure

(I snipped out the images)
Wow- they go pretty big ! Hopefully that should sort me out if I prop the thing on my chest next to my face whilst lying down. lol.
Thanks for that.

You know what you said about the books you like and want to read not being available in audiobook ? Well, I don't know how you'll react to this, but in osx's Automator (if you've got a mac), there is a way to use Applescript and Automator to output text files and the like to spoken audio files, using the built in voice features of osx.
http://automator.us/leopard/examples/ex07/index.html gives details. I don't know how much text this method can stand before it goes boobs up, but it might be worth a go for you. I've only ever used it with small amounts.
This would give you an audio file with the same sort of listening experience as the voiceover feature in ibooks, 'cept you get to choose the voice, and in my experience, the osx version of voiceover is a touch more realistic with its meter, pronunciation, and so on, than the iphone one (which I assume is similar if not the same as the ipad one.)

If you're a windows user then I'm afraid I got nothing.
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Old Apr 4, 2010, 11:02 AM   #11
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Wow- they go pretty big ! Hopefully that should sort me out if I prop the thing on my chest next to my face whilst lying down. lol.
Thanks for that.

You know what you said about the books you like and want to read not being available in audiobook ? Well, I don't know how you'll react to this, but in osx's Automator (if you've got a mac), there is a way to use Applescript and Automator to output text files and the like to spoken audio files, using the built in voice features of osx.
http://automator.us/leopard/examples/ex07/index.html gives details. I don't know how much text this method can stand before it goes boobs up, but it might be worth a go for you. I've only ever used it with small amounts.
This would give you an audio file with the same sort of listening experience as the voiceover feature in ibooks, 'cept you get to choose the voice, and in my experience, the osx version of voiceover is a touch more realistic with its meter, pronunciation, and so on, than the iphone one (which I assume is similar if not the same as the ipad one.)

If you're a windows user then I'm afraid I got nothing.
wow thanks a bunch! I will try it when I get home! This might be the best of everything!
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wow thanks a bunch! I will try it when I get home! This might be the best of everything!
No problem. Let me know how it works out for you.
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Old Apr 5, 2010, 09:44 AM   #13
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Seems like it would do great but I can't seem to figure a way to copy the contests of the books from either ibooks or kindle for mac.
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Old Apr 6, 2010, 09:55 PM   #14
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Here are my earlier instructions for iPhone for text-to-speech in any app.
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=794126

Here is how you use it on the iPad with iBooks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5kLiRxuuq0

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Old Apr 7, 2010, 12:26 AM   #15
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Here are my earlier instructions for iPhone for text-to-speech in any app.
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=794126

Here is how you use it on the iPad with iBooks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5kLiRxuuq0

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Old Apr 7, 2010, 05:06 AM   #16
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YOU ARE MY HERO!!!! I am so glad I get to keep the ipad!!
They beat me to it. I was going to point you to http://forums.macrumors.com/showthre...=1#post9593212 but seems I don't need to. Enjoy.
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