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enzojauregui

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i already know the benefits and disadvantages of using sleep and shut down. what i do want to know is what is actually better when you consider extending the life of a computer. which one stresses the computer more?
 

Hellhammer

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Sleep all the way. It needs less from HD as the OS doesn't have to be reloaded every time you open it. Sleep is also faster and all apps remain open.

I restart once or twice a month, zero issues
 

enzojauregui

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Both are inconsequential.

what do you mean by this? i heard that shutting then turning on the mbp would put more stress on the components but on the other hand wouldn't leaving the mbp sleeping for a day put stress on it as well considering the time it will be length of time especially on components that are powered even on sleep mode?
 

Hellhammer

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what do you mean by this? i heard that shutting then turning on the mbp would put more stress on the components but on the other hand wouldn't leaving the mbp sleeping for a day put stress on it as well considering the time it will be length of time especially on components that are powered even on sleep mode?

Only RAM is powered while sleeping, other components are not on.

I would say, if you use it within ~24 hours, sleep it but if you know you'll not be able to use it for +24 hours, shut it down
 

enzojauregui

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hmmm, let's say would sleeping it for 5 days cause more stress to components compared to shutting it down then turning it back on after? power use is negligible so i don't really care about that. im asking this because sometimes i don't use my mbp for days while i use a desktop computer :D
 

enzojauregui

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Only RAM is powered while sleeping, other components are not on.

I would say, if you use it within ~24 hours, sleep it but if you know you'll not be able to use it for +24 hours, shut it down

that is what i was thinking. i also like sleeping so much better because of instant start up, it saves time even if it is just a few seconds, too lazy to wait, hahaha
 

Hellhammer

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hmmm, let's say would sleeping it for 5 days cause more stress to components compared to shutting it down then turning it back on after? power use is negligible so i don't really care about that. im asking this because sometimes i don't use my mbp for days while i use a desktop computer :D

It doesn't really stress it as all but RAM are turned off, but if it's not plugged in, the battery will be stressed.

IMO it doesn't really matter, some people use sleep all the time while others always shut it down, even for 10minute break
 

GGJstudios

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hmmm, let's say would sleeping it for 5 days cause more stress to components compared to shutting it down then turning it back on after? power use is negligible so i don't really care about that. im asking this because sometimes i don't use my mbp for days while i use a desktop computer :D

Either sleeping or shutting down is fine. Neither will damage or cause excessive wear. That's what you MBP is designed to do. If it's going to be days and you're not plugged in, shutting down will save battery, as it will draw a bit while sleeping. Just use your Mac and don't sweat the small stuff.
 

miles01110

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The limiting factor in a typical computer is the hard drive lifetime. I've yet to see conclusive evidence either way that keeping the drive spinning vs. spinning up/down every time you power on/off is "best."

The rest of the components in a machine have a lifetime measured in decades.
 

Hellhammer

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The limiting factor in a typical computer is the hard drive lifetime. I've yet to see conclusive evidence either way that keeping the drive spinning vs. spinning up/down every time you power on/off is "best."

The rest of the components in a machine have a lifetime measured in decades.

Sleep function will power off the HD as well if you select that option in Energy Saving preferences. That way sleep should save HD. Data is stored to RAM which is "immortal" compared to HD and uses less energy let alone it's speed which makes sleep function so good
 

enzojauregui

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thanks for all the quick replies, i guess i shouldnt stress myself on the matter to much. ill probably sleep more often, and shut down when i wont use it for a long time

one lasting thing, does sleep cause heat? i plan to keep my mbp in my nylon case while in sleep, im thinking that it might overheat in extended perods of time
 

zodqyv

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hmmm, let's say would sleeping it for 5 days cause more stress to components compared to shutting it down then turning it back on after? power use is negligible so i don't really care about that. im asking this because sometimes i don't use my mbp for days while i use a desktop computer :D

On that note you may as well shut it down. Less chance of it catching a freak power surge or something (even if you use a ups).
 

Hellhammer

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one lasting thing, does sleep cause heat? i plan to keep my mbp in my nylon case while in sleep, im thinking that it might overheat in extended perods of time

Doubt it. RAM uses so little amount of energy so it shouldn't. You can try it with your hand and feel does it feel warm
 

zodqyv

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I personally shut mine down when I feel like it. Maybe a couple times a week or so at the most. I used to be concerned with hard drive life but I am using Intel SSDs these days so that is no longer an issue.
 

juandixon109

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the more on/off cycles you to do any computers the more damage you do.

thats why a lot of electronics are measured in power cycles.

take a desktop and leave it on the whole time vs shutting down every day.

over the years the desktop that is left on will usually last longer (mb, power supply, etc).

sleep on the on other hand keeps the juices flowing so to speak. SO there is less stress on components. Heat is NOT an issue for sleep. I prefer sleep over shutting down.
 
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