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Old May 25, 2010, 03:45 PM   #1
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Pre-order iPhone 4G, but pay full retail value

So, since we are already allowed to buy contract-free iPhones from AT&T, for the next iPhone i wanted to buy an iphone contract free. It avoids the hassle of getting my parents to sign a contract (i'm 17 and use gophone), and i have extra $ from mowing lawns and fixing computers.

For those of you who have done this or have tried to do this in the past, would it be possible to pre-order an iPhone, but at full retail value (~$599 or $699)? What stores can you and can't you do this at? Can i do this at 17 since i won't be signing a contract?
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Old May 25, 2010, 03:49 PM   #2
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In the past, they haven't allowed the phone to be purchased off contract right away. Its been a few months after release.
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Old May 25, 2010, 03:51 PM   #3
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^ I suspect this to be the case for the next release as well.
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Old May 25, 2010, 03:52 PM   #4
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In the past, they haven't allowed the phone to be purchased off contract right away. Its been a few months after release.
I thought that if you paid the full retail value there are no strings attached?
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Old May 25, 2010, 03:55 PM   #5
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I thought that if you paid the full retail value there are no strings attached?
There aren't any strings when you buy full retail, but they don't offer that option right away. For the first couple of months you will probably only be able to buy the new iPhone WITH a contract. After a few months, Apple will sell the new iPhone w/o a contract like they did with the 3GS.
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Old May 25, 2010, 04:01 PM   #6
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ATT will hold all the new iPhones for customers who will sign a contract so they get more money. They may sell the new iPhones off contract after several months since it will be in such high demand.
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Old May 25, 2010, 04:04 PM   #7
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There aren't any strings when you buy full retail, but they don't offer that option right away. For the first couple of months you will probably only be able to buy the new iPhone WITH a contract. After a few months, Apple will sell the new iPhone w/o a contract like they did with the 3GS.
Is there a certain time, like 90 days? How will i find out?
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Old May 25, 2010, 04:04 PM   #8
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ATT will hold all the new iPhones for customers who will sign a contract so they get more money. They may sell the new iPhones off contract after several months since it will be in such high demand.
What if i get it from the apple store, or best buy?
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Old May 25, 2010, 04:07 PM   #9
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What if i get it from the apple store, or best buy?
same thing, you're sol
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Old May 25, 2010, 04:48 PM   #10
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Is there a certain time, like 90 days? How will i find out?
You'll find out the same way you found out about no-contract 3GS iPhones. Just keep checking MacRumors and other sites and they'll break the news as soon as Apple announces it.

There's always ebay, but this time around the iPhones are going to be much more expensive because of the $325 ETF.
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Old May 25, 2010, 05:01 PM   #11
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When you pre order on Apple's site, it will tell you how much you qualify for and if there is an unsubsidized price, you can pay that.
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Old May 25, 2010, 05:04 PM   #12
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It's hard for me to believe that Apple will not sell you an iPhone just because you don't qualify for a new 2yr contract or an upgrade. They will be more than happy to sell you an iPhone 4 for full price; $600+.
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Old May 25, 2010, 05:11 PM   #13
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It's hard for me to believe that Apple will not sell you an iPhone just because you don't qualify for a new 2yr contract or an upgrade. They will be more than happy to sell you an iPhone 4 for full price; $600+.
NO, but they will be more than happy to sell you a phone with a new activation.

They've always been reluctant to sell iPhones without getting them committed to a service.
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Old May 25, 2010, 05:18 PM   #14
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NO, but they will be more than happy to sell you a phone with a new activation.

They've always been reluctant to sell iPhones without getting them committed to a service.
I still have a year left on my contract. Don't think Apple cares that much about the commitment to service. Money is money. Now ATT, I can see since they lose money on every iPhone with a contract.
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Old May 25, 2010, 05:32 PM   #15
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So wait... If I wanna buy the phone without extending my contract I have to wait MONTHS? WTF apple.. Screwing it's best supporters over again.
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Old May 25, 2010, 06:19 PM   #16
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So wait... If I wanna buy the phone without extending my contract I have to wait MONTHS? WTF apple.. Screwing it's best supporters over again.
They always have. How long did it take them to sell an iPhone sans activation in the first place?!
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Old May 25, 2010, 06:36 PM   #17
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I still have a year left on my contract. Don't think Apple cares that much about the commitment to service. Money is money. Now ATT, I can see since they lose money on every iPhone with a contract.
It's probably somewhere in the Apple/AT&T agreement. AT&T doesn't get the customer locked into a contract if they buy full retail. I'm sure they'd much rather sell with contracts than without, and come launch that's probably what they'll do.

But you're right, I don't think it matters to Apple. They get their money either way. Either from you at full price, or from you + AT&T subsidization.
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So wait... If I wanna buy the phone without extending my contract I have to wait MONTHS? WTF apple.. Screwing it's best supporters over again.
No, you will be able to. Some people here do not know how to word their posts correctly. Since you are saying you HAVE a contract, you will be able to buy an iPhone 4, at full price (most likely). I got the iPhone 3G the day it came out on contract. When the 3GS was launched I was no eligible for an upgrade, however, through AT&T pre-orders, I paid full-price and received the iPhone 3GS on launch day, June 19th, I believe? So, you will be able to get the iPhone 4 without extending your contract- because you already have a contract. AT&T isn't going to say "Oh, you've been with us for this long, but no upgrade? Well, screw you, no phone". If you want to give them more money for a phone, they will sell it to you.

However, for the OP, I do not believe you will be able to get an iPhone. As I said to SimGar- (s)he will be able to get an iPhone at full price due to there being an existing contract. You however have no contract, and I know that a friend of mine went to AT&T for the 3GS pre-order last summer and they said he needed to have a contract to get the 3GS. He did not want to sign a contract (wanted to sell the phone for much more than it's worth), and they denied him. So I highly doubt you would be able to buy the iPhone full price.

Bottom line. If you have a contract you will be able to get the new iPhone, whether you are eligible for an upgrade or want to pay full price or that one-year early upgrade price. If you don't have a contract, I believe, from past experience, you are S.O.L.
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Old May 25, 2010, 07:13 PM   #19
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Hey man, try this. I did and crapped my pants in excitment.

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I thought I was gonna pay full price. I Did the *639# txt and I always got 12/22/10 with a 2yr up (which I don't want to do. Have had an iPhone since April 09)

What I got: I qualify for a 16GB 3GS @ $399. ($199 w/ 2yr and $599 w/o)
Now hopefully that stays true for the iPhone 4. If it does, I'm gonna Quad-Yeah all day (let's see if there are any Jim Rome fans out here).
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The OP doesn't want an early upgrade. He wants a contract-free iPhone.
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Old Jun 11, 2010, 08:36 AM   #21
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Any updates? is ebay still my best option to get iPhone 4 without a contract?
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Old Jun 11, 2010, 08:48 AM   #22
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Yes you could go the ebay route, but look to spend ATLEAST 1000 bucks the first couple weeks of release. Atleast thats what im guessing.
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