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Old Jun 27, 2010, 09:41 PM   #1
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Old Jun 27, 2010, 09:42 PM   #2
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Old Jun 27, 2010, 09:42 PM   #3
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You may run into some trouble with AT&T if it is marked as stolen. Also, buying stolen property is against the law.

And there are some technical issues too, like being able to obtain a Micro-SIM from AT&T this time of the year. Or obtaining support from Apple.
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Old Jun 27, 2010, 09:42 PM   #4
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Old Jun 27, 2010, 09:43 PM   #5
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Old Jun 27, 2010, 09:44 PM   #6
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i don't know why you come to macrumors for legal advice, but if this is serious, it's illegal to purchase stolen property.
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Old Jun 27, 2010, 09:46 PM   #7
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This guy i know has a stolen iPhone 4 in hand, I was thinking if i buy it from him at a reasonable price would I be able to use it w/o getting in trouble? Yay or nay?
Besides lecturing you on the Moral Ethics of this (trust me, you will get enough of that)..

The person who reports it stolen to AT&T can have it's serial # (ESN, same thing) blacklisted, and the phone will be unable to be activated, making it a pretty iPod touch.

Wouldn't recommend it.
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Old Jun 27, 2010, 09:47 PM   #9
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This is wrong in so many ways.

1. It's against the law.

2. It's immoral.

3. It's risky in terms of losing any support, possibly even more.

4. I hope that if somebody steals yours, you will realise how it feels to feed the market.

5. This thread should be closed.

Good bye!
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Old Jun 27, 2010, 09:47 PM   #10
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Ethically, the answer is obviously no.

Legally, the answer is obviously no.
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Old Jun 27, 2010, 09:48 PM   #11
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The person who reports it stolen to AT&T can have it's serial # (ESN, same thing) blacklisted, and the phone will be unable to be activated, making it a pretty iPod touch.

Wouldn't recommend it.
Thats completelly false.
AT&T or any US carrier does not blacklist IMEI's or ESN and any cellphone can be activated and used on any AT&T account or even Tmobile if unlocked.
Not saying he should buy stolen property or risk going to jail over a cellphone though.
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Old Jun 27, 2010, 09:50 PM   #13
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I think buying an item with multiple traceable security features and a GPS and cellular triangulation tracking device in it sounds like a great idea.
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Old Jun 27, 2010, 09:51 PM   #14
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Thanks for everyone's input, I was just trying to save some money since I'm not eligible yet for an upgrade, but no go it is. I rather be safe then sorry.
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Old Jun 27, 2010, 09:52 PM   #15
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No, really, go ahead, buy the stolen phone. Suuure, go right on ahead.

Then open all your windows, leave your doors unlocked, walk around naked, and insert various bodily appendages into mousetraps, pencil sharpeners, microwaves, and Rottweilers.

I mean, if you are making a Stupid Things To Do list....
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Old Jun 27, 2010, 09:56 PM   #16
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Personally I think that you should look for new friends and acquaintances to hang around with. Obviously your current group are losers that steal things.
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Old Jun 27, 2010, 10:11 PM   #17
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Thats completelly false.
AT&T or any US carrier does not blacklist IMEI's or ESN and any cellphone can be activated and used on any AT&T account or even Tmobile if unlocked.
Not saying he should buy stolen property or risk going to jail over a cellphone though.
Really?

Call in your phone stolen, provide the #'s, and see what they do.
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Old Jun 27, 2010, 10:27 PM   #18
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Thanks for everyone's input, I was just trying to save some money since I'm not eligible yet for an upgrade, but no go it is. I rather be safe then sorry.
The reality is: You never even should have asked to begin with. In a perfect world, you'd report the phone as stolen.
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Old Jun 27, 2010, 10:39 PM   #19
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Good God.

A reminder:

http://www.businessinsider.com/penal...ty-jail-2010-4
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Old Jun 27, 2010, 10:52 PM   #20
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Really?

Call in your phone stolen, provide the #'s, and see what they do.
Really.
What they will do is give you a generic answer and deactive your lines simcard, thats all.
Educate yourself a little on the topic before you post your assumptions as facts.
Search on google about US carriers blacklisting IMEI's or any cellphone.
US carriers DO NOT implement an IMEI blacklist maybe sometime in the future I hope they will untill they are forced to do so by regulators.

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