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Old Jul 11, 2010, 08:42 PM   #1
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Trying to play old PC game on mac using DOSBox - some help please

I'm trying to play an old PC Game on my Mac (Mac OS X 10.5.8) using DOSBox, however, it says "This program requires Microsoft Windows."

Is there ANY chance for me to play this on my Mac? I'm not so good when it comes to technology such as this, so please try to be as specific as possible Is there a different program similar to DOSBox that I can download to support this game?

THANKS!
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Old Jul 12, 2010, 02:05 AM   #2
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I'm trying to play an old PC Game on my Mac (Mac OS X 10.5.8) using DOSBox, however, it says "This program requires Microsoft Windows."

Is there ANY chance for me to play this on my Mac? I'm not so good when it comes to technology such as this, so please try to be as specific as possible Is there a different program similar to DOSBox that I can download to support this game?

THANKS!
DOSBox can only run Dos programs...

that game apparently is not a DOS program...

to run Windows apps, you will have to use something that is Wine based...
Wine isn't usually terribly easy to get configured for a specific program, because its a program by program basis of troubleshooting and figuring out what needs to be done to get it to work. Luckily winehq.org has an AppDB (Application Database) that people enter reports and such so there is often info on wether or not a game works good with Wine, and how to get it to work.
How to use Wine? well you can compile Wine from source (or Macports) which leaves it all command line usage. I have a product called Wineskin you can use thats focusing on taking Windows apps and make them look and work like Mac apps. (http://wineskin.doh123.com/). Or you can go a good paid and supported route like Crossover Games
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Old Jul 12, 2010, 08:55 AM   #3
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DOSBox can only run Dos programs...

that game apparently is not a DOS program...

to run Windows apps, you will have to use something that is Wine based...
Wine isn't usually terribly easy to get configured for a specific program, because its a program by program basis of troubleshooting and figuring out what needs to be done to get it to work. Luckily winehq.org has an AppDB (Application Database) that people enter reports and such so there is often info on wether or not a game works good with Wine, and how to get it to work.
How to use Wine? well you can compile Wine from source (or Macports) which leaves it all command line usage. I have a product called Wineskin you can use thats focusing on taking Windows apps and make them look and work like Mac apps. (http://wineskin.doh123.com/). Or you can go a good paid and supported route like Crossover Games

Okay so... I'm surfing around on the Wine website, and I have absolutely no idea what to download - which version, I mean. Does it really matter? Is it more of a touch and go situation?

I don't really want to pay for anything, because there is only this one game that I am itching to access. Though my efforts might be futile considering how much of this I am unfamiliar with...
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Old Jul 12, 2010, 09:07 AM   #4
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Boxer plays MS-DOS games on your Mac. Itís based on the robust DOSBox emulator, with a lot of magic sprinkled on top.

Run DOS programs from Finder. Wrap your games into tidy gameboxes that launch like Mac apps. Painlessly install games from CDóthen bundle the CD with your game so you don't even need it in the drive.

Donít struggle with mounts and emulation settings; donít nurse a greedy games database; donít bang your head against a DOS prompt; just play your games. Boxer takes away the fuss and leaves the fun.
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Old Jul 12, 2010, 10:34 AM   #5
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Okay so... I'm surfing around on the Wine website, and I have absolutely no idea what to download - which version, I mean. Does it really matter? Is it more of a touch and go situation?

I don't really want to pay for anything, because there is only this one game that I am itching to access. Though my efforts might be futile considering how much of this I am unfamiliar with...
You don't download it from the Wine website. Wine is a Linux program that happens to work on Mac. So you get it the same way Linux users get their programs- through a package manager. You have two options with this: Macports and Fink. Macports is run by Apple and has much more up-to-date packages. But, it uses the old ports system- it downloads and compiles everything from source so it can take hours to actually install the program. Wine releases a new version every 2 weeks, so it's a bit of a pain to do this. Also, Macports doesn't have a stable GUI so you're almost certainly going to have to do this from the command line. Fink is a Mac version of the Debian Package Manager, which uses binaries so it's much faster but it's also not as up-to-date.

As far as which version to choose (stable vs. development), go with development. There aren't usually any regressions, and the "stable" is kind of an arbitrary point. For instance, version "1.0" came out after 15 years of development, and the marker for what would be version 1 is that Photoshop CS 2 should work near-perfectly out of the box. Right now, they're actually working on releasing another so-called-stable version, 1.2, so they're busy fixing the few regressions they did have.

Oh, and when you use the package manager, you'll want to get the wine-devel package. In Fink, just find the package in Fink Commander. In Macports, open the terminal and type "sudo port install wine-devel".
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Old Jul 12, 2010, 12:28 PM   #6
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You don't download it from the Wine website. Wine is a Linux program that happens to work on Mac. So you get it the same way Linux users get their programs- through a package manager. You have two options with this: Macports and Fink. Macports is run by Apple and has much more up-to-date packages. But, it uses the old ports system- it downloads and compiles everything from source so it can take hours to actually install the program. Wine releases a new version every 2 weeks, so it's a bit of a pain to do this. Also, Macports doesn't have a stable GUI so you're almost certainly going to have to do this from the command line. Fink is a Mac version of the Debian Package Manager, which uses binaries so it's much faster but it's also not as up-to-date.

As far as which version to choose (stable vs. development), go with development. There aren't usually any regressions, and the "stable" is kind of an arbitrary point. For instance, version "1.0" came out after 15 years of development, and the marker for what would be version 1 is that Photoshop CS 2 should work near-perfectly out of the box. Right now, they're actually working on releasing another so-called-stable version, 1.2, so they're busy fixing the few regressions they did have.

Oh, and when you use the package manager, you'll want to get the wine-devel package. In Fink, just find the package in Fink Commander. In Macports, open the terminal and type "sudo port install wine-devel".

THANK YOU. That was very helpful

Now - I've installed MacPorts, and I've installed Wine, and I'm the right directory for the game, however when I attempted to install and/or run the game (via the terminal), I get this response: "16-bit/DOS support missing"

GAHHH, so does this mean all my efforts have been futile?
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Old Jul 12, 2010, 05:21 PM   #7
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using Macports will give you normal command line Wine.. same as if you manually download the source code and build it yourself.

Thats not the easiest way to get things to work... I'd suggest using a tool made for Macs.

Wineskin (http://wineskin.doh123.com/) is one I make. You can use it without having to compile anything yourself (although you can if you want to), and I focus on making it good for gaming. You'll still have to learn some stuff, but I have written up a lot of documentation.

There are others that make similar stuff, but I do not like them too much, which is why I started Wineskin...
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Old Jul 12, 2010, 06:08 PM   #8
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If you don't mind me asking, what game is it? If it is for Windows 3.x, you can try installing Windows 3.1 in DosBox.
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Old Jul 12, 2010, 06:17 PM   #9
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I think I had a similar problem when I installed Wine via macports.

Instead I ended up using WineBottler. It seems pretty robust so far.
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