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Old Jul 14, 2010, 10:21 PM   #376
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My prediction is similar to others we've seen. They'll say something like this:
The iPhone 4 has been our most popular product ever. We've been excited and humbled by unprecedented sales volume of the past few weeks. It's been our biggest Apple launch ever. Millions of people are loving their iPhone 4's. Retina etc. Awesome.

We've made incredible improvements in the RF design of this device. Here are some examples of press coverage describing the iPhone 4's ability to hold onto calls in what used to be dead spots.

We understand that there have been reports of some people experiencing reception problems when the iPhone 4 is handled in a particular way. We agree that appearance of these problems is related to the "innovative" external antenna design, but this issue has been exacerbated by an error we made in how we display the bars in iOS. [Reference what was learned from Anandtech's analysis.]

We are extremely confident in the overall design of the product. So much so that today we're announcing that anyone who buys an iPhone 4 during its first 6 months can return it--no questions asked--within 30 days of purchase, with no restocking fee, regardless of which authorized reseller you bought it from. This includes the 1.7 million people who bought an iPhone 4 on launch day. We're confident you will love your iPhone.

In addition, next week we will release a software update that will (among other enhancements) do two things. 1) It will make our signal display more accurate, and 2) it will include an update to the radio equipment in the iPhone that will make it more effective at maximizing signal strength even when the two antennas are bridged by your hand.

Finally, anyone who has already bought an iPhone 4 will receive a $50 Apple Store gift card with our compliments. If you would prefer to make sure the two external antennas are never bridged by the way you hold your iPhone, you can buy a bumper or another case on us. If you don't feel you need a case for your iPhone (or if you already bought one) we hope you enjoy whatever you buy with the card.

That's all we have to announce for today. Thanks for coming. And screw Jason Chen. And also those dirtbags at Consumer Reports.
I would be more than satisfied with a response like this, although the $50 gift card is probably a tad optimistic (but recall for precedent the credit to existing iPhone users when the price dropped suddenly). And I bet they don't say word one about the proximity sensor issue, or the white iPhone 4.
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Old Jul 14, 2010, 10:21 PM   #377
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When Consumer Reports speaks, people listen. Apple knows this, which is why they are finally reacting.

CR did NOT say NOT to buy the iPhone 4, they just didn't recommend it...however, that's simply equivocation in the minds of the general consumer.
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Old Jul 14, 2010, 10:22 PM   #378
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How many more lies will they tell?
Please tell us what lies they have told us?
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Old Jul 14, 2010, 10:22 PM   #379
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This conference is yet another of Apple genius idea of using the press for free pubilicity. Apple is really genius, indeed.


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LoopInsight, Engadget and others are reporting that Apple will be holding a press conference this Friday.The topic of discussion, of course, is the iPhone 4 which has received much press over the past few weeks regarding a signal loss issue when it is held in certain ways. A Consumer Reports article reignited discussion of this issue earlier this week.

Article Link: Apple Holding iPhone 4 Press Conference on Friday
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Old Jul 14, 2010, 10:22 PM   #380
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Better question to ask yourself:

What will he have to say to keep my iPhone 4 and not return within 30 days?
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Old Jul 14, 2010, 10:23 PM   #381
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Take your own advice. They did not rate the phone a "don't buy" as you claimed in your previous post; they just didn't list it as a "recommended" phone although it had their highest rating.
Rating the phone as "Not Recommended" is the same thing. You're arguing semantics.

How about Apple systematically deleting EVERY SINGLE THREAD on their support forums that mentions ANYTHING about the Consumer Reports report?

Uggh, the fanboyism around here is sickening. MR sure isn't what it once was.
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Old Jul 14, 2010, 10:23 PM   #382
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My prediction:

1. No mention of the iPhone 4 antenna issue

2. iOS 5.0 sneak peek
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Old Jul 14, 2010, 10:23 PM   #383
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There is no antennae problem. I've got a 3GS and my buddy has a iPhone 4.0 and he gets signal in places at the hospital where I can't even get one. As far as covering part of the antennae causing a drop in signal, I can reproduce that with my 3GS as well. People need to stop digging for things that isn't there. If your signal drops while holding the phone, well, the signal in that area was probably weak to begin with and your iPhone probably shouldn't have been displaying as many bars. Enjoy your phone and don't worry. If you honestly hate it so much, return it. Your lost.
Ahem, at 2 different apple stores I held my iphone 3G and several of the iphone 4s.. I was able to duplicate the signal loss on everyone of the iphone 4s.. After cupping my hand completely around the 3g I managed to lose 1 single bar…. so no there's is an issue.
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Old Jul 14, 2010, 10:23 PM   #384
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When Consumer Reports speaks, people listen. Apple knows this, which is why they are finally reacting.

CR did NOT say NOT to buy the iPhone 4, they just didn't recommend it...however, that's simply equivocation in the minds of the general consumer.
I don't know about anyone else but I went "Huh, people still read that..."
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Old Jul 14, 2010, 10:24 PM   #385
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Old Jul 14, 2010, 10:24 PM   #386
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If it was going to be recalled they would hold the press conference at the beginning of the week to deal with all of the media fallout, not on a Friday when everyone wants to enjoy their weekend.
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Old Jul 14, 2010, 10:25 PM   #387
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Old Jul 14, 2010, 10:25 PM   #388
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There is no antennae problem. I've got a 3GS and my buddy has a iPhone 4.0 and he gets signal in places at the hospital where I can't even get one. As far as covering part of the antennae causing a drop in signal, I can reproduce that with my 3GS as well. People need to stop digging for things that isn't there. If your signal drops while holding the phone, well, the signal in that area was probably weak to begin with and your iPhone probably shouldn't have been displaying as many bars. Enjoy your phone and don't worry. If you honestly hate it so much, return it. Your lost.
Agreed. One of the calmer and more intelligent posts on this site. While I suspect some iPhones have this issue, waiting until Apple addresses the issue is the most sensible recourse. Otherwise, it's simply people grabbing on to something to complain, perhaps venting helps with other issues in their lives.

As well, I've noticed a rather significant influx of new members in the past two weeks who are commenting incessantly about the iPhone 4 being an "Epic Fail" and that all Apple users are "fanboys", and "I love my Droid" or "I love my WinMo". Almost every thread is becoming a sounding board, even threads that have nothing to do with the iPhone are turning into (cue music) "Apple's demise".
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Old Jul 14, 2010, 10:25 PM   #389
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My prediction is similar to others we've seen. They'll say something like this:
The iPhone 4 has been our most popular product ever. We've been excited and humbled by unprecedented sales volume of the past few weeks. It's been our biggest Apple launch ever. Millions of people are loving their iPhone 4's. Retina etc. Awesome.

We've made incredible improvements in the RF design of this device. Here are some examples of press coverage describing the iPhone 4's ability to hold onto calls in what used to be dead spots.

We understand that there have been reports of some people experiencing reception problems when the iPhone 4 is handled in a particular way. We agree that appearance of these problems is related to the "innovative" external antenna design, but this issue has been exacerbated by an error we made in how we display the bars in iOS. [Reference what was learned from Anandtech's analysis.]

We are extremely confident in the overall design of the product. So much so that today we're announcing that anyone who buys an iPhone 4 during its first 6 months can return it--no questions asked--within 30 days of purchase, with no restocking fee, regardless of which authorized reseller you bought it from. This includes the 1.7 million people who bought an iPhone 4 on launch day. We're confident you will love your iPhone.

In addition, next week we will release a software update that will (among other enhancements) do two things. 1) It will make our signal display more accurate, and 2) it will include an update to the radio equipment in the iPhone that will make it more effective at maximizing signal strength even when the two antennas are bridged by your hand.

Finally, anyone who has already bought an iPhone 4 will receive a $50 Apple Store gift card with our compliments. If you would prefer to make sure the two external antennas are never bridged by the way you hold your iPhone, you can buy a bumper or another case on us. If you don't feel you need a case for your iPhone (or if you already bought one) we hope you enjoy whatever you buy with the card.

That's all we have to announce for today. Thanks for coming. And screw Jason Chen. And also those dirtbags at Consumer Reports.
I would be more than satisfied with a response like this, although the $50 gift card is probably a tad optimistic (but recall for precedent the credit to existing iPhone users when the price dropped suddenly). And I bet they don't say word one about the proximity sensor issue, or the white iPhone 4.
Press release at 10AM. My iPhone 4 returned at 10:30AM.
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Old Jul 14, 2010, 10:25 PM   #390
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Rating the phone as "Not Recommended" is the same thing. You're arguing semantics.
No, it's not. "Recommended" is a specific distinction that Consumer Reports gives out. Most of the products they review don't receive it. But obviously there's no convincing you otherwise, so have a nice day.
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They should say everyone gets a free iPhone. They are just so damn good, one can not charge for the awesomenessesity!
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Old Jul 14, 2010, 10:26 PM   #392
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The press conference will go like this...

What part of "You're holding it wrong!" don't you understand?
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Old Jul 14, 2010, 10:27 PM   #393
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It Depends

This press conference could be good or bad; it depends how they hold it.
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Old Jul 14, 2010, 10:27 PM   #394
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Agreed. One of the calmer and more intelligent posts on this site. While I suspect some iPhones have this issue, waiting until Apple addresses the issue is the most sensible recourse. Otherwise, it's simply people grabbing on to something to complain, perhaps venting helps with other issues in their lives.

As well, I've noticed a rather significant influx of new members in the past two weeks who are commenting incessantly about the iPhone 4 being an "Epic Fail" and that all Apple users are "fanboys", and "I love my Droid" or "I love my WinMo". Almost every thread is becoming a sounding board, even threads that have nothing to do with the iPhone are turning into (cue music) "Apple's demise".
If I have 3 bars and when i touch the 'spot' my internet data grinds down and I lose the rest of my bars. It effects me so im glad this has happened.
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Old Jul 14, 2010, 10:27 PM   #395
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The press conference will go like this...

What part of "You're holding it wrong!" don't you understand?
Just hire Christian Bale or Mel Gibson to speak on Steve's behalf.
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Old Jul 14, 2010, 10:27 PM   #396
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The press conference will go like this...

What part of "You're holding it wrong!" don't you understand?
That would be pretty funny, I must admit. It should be pretty entertaining. I hope to god they have a true fix though. I'm getting sick and tired of hearing about this.
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Rating the phone as "Not Recommended" is the same thing. You're arguing semantics.

How about Apple systematically deleting EVERY SINGLE THREAD on their support forums that mentions ANYTHING about the Consumer Reports report?

Uggh, the fanboyism around here is sickening. MR sure isn't what it once was.
Point one...wrong. They always pick one product to recommend in each category, but they make it clear that it does not mean don't buy the others.

Point two... if they are deleting the articles... how the HECK do you know they are... or were there?

Point three... Ahhh... this is the Apple Rumor site... we like our Apple products and announcements like this press conference are usually a good thing because the mother ship is answering our calls... or dropped calls in this case!
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Just hire Christian Bale or Mel Gibson to speak on Steve's behalf.
OMG!!! Steve having a Facetime session with Mel Gibson!!!
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If I were Apple I would offer an exchange program for an iPhone 4 with a coated antenna then resale the "death grip" phones in China.

Apple appeases their US customers, double's their international market share, and profits. It's win-win.

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