OS X 10.3.7 Development Underway?

MacRumors · Nov 16, 2004, 05:00 PM

AppleInsider reports that less than two weeks after 10.3.6 was released, Apple is already circulating internal builds of 10.3.7. Reportedly to be released before year's end, with developers receiving their first builds within the next few weeks.

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While details surrounding these very early builds are scant, sources say Mac OS X 10.3.7 will deliver enhancements to FireWire Audio, OpenGL, CoreGraphics, Multicast DNS, mLAN Audio, CoreFoundation, and AppKit.

The update is also said to include revisions to the Mach Kernel, PDF and PostScript rendering, ATI Radeon graphics drivers (8500, 9700), and Nvidia GeForce graphics drivers (3, 2MX, FX).

MrMacMan · Nov 16, 2004, 05:04 PM

Looks like an important update.

We all love our graphics updates 'OpenGL, CoreGraphics... ATI Radeon graphics drivers,and Nvidia GeForce graphics drivers'

Good good.

Always love these update rumors!

javabear90 · Nov 16, 2004, 05:05 PM

hopefully it will improve Fps in game. Also what happens if they get to 10.3.9 will the next one be 10.3.10 and then 10.3.11? that would be weird

AirUncleP · Nov 16, 2004, 05:12 PM

Would have to guess that this would be the last update before 10.4.

combatcolin · Nov 16, 2004, 05:13 PM

Does anyone actually sleep at Apple?

blufire · Nov 16, 2004, 05:14 PM

"Before year's end?" Does that mean they won't be releasing a fix for the MDD audio issue for a long while? That's not very responsible of them :P

stoid · Nov 16, 2004, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by combatcolin

Does anyone actually sleep at Apple?

A few people, but most go home for that.

Anyway, does the rumored update have new drivers for the Radeon 9700 Mobility, or just the regular 9700?

wrldwzrd89 · Nov 16, 2004, 05:20 PM

Better PostScript rendering is the only change that I consider particularly important. New graphics card drivers are always nice, especially when you take Quartz Extreme into account. Other than that, though, I don't use any of the other things that are supposed to be updated.

1macker1 · Nov 16, 2004, 05:22 PM

WOW at the recent number of updates. I feel sorry for the 56k users.

Lepton · Nov 16, 2004, 05:22 PM

It's not unusual to release a tweak to the OS to handle new hardware. With a MacWorld coming up, this may include new code for new models of Mac..

Longey Nowze · Nov 16, 2004, 05:23 PM

aren't the drivers handled by ATI and nVidia? or does Apple make them?

anyway this is always good, they just put one out and they are working on the next one that is amazing! I hope that they keep this pace! our uptimes will suffer, but that's a small price to pay for stability i guess

MaT

russed · Nov 16, 2004, 05:23 PM

wow, lots of news today!

any update is a good update (well apart from 10.3.6, i'm just not entirely happy with it!)

i hope it will turn my 12" pb into a monsterous dual 3ghz g5 with 2 gigs of ram!

bousozoku · Nov 16, 2004, 05:32 PM

I'm glad they're fixing the kernel. Maybe they'll finally get the throughput up and the SMP leak down. Always glad to see that they're working on OpenGL and the video card drivers.

I'm sorry that they're not fixing the networking. It's been a year since I've had reliable access between my machines. I suppose the good thing is that they haven't made it completely impossible or I'd have to continue to use my Zip drive to transfer files.

In any case, it looks like we're going all the way to 10.3.9 before we get real stability.

wrldwzrd89 · Nov 16, 2004, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Longey Nowze

aren't the drivers handled by ATI and nVidia? or does Apple make them?

anyway this is always good, they just put one out and they are working on the next one that is amazing! I hope that they keep this pace! our uptimes will suffer, but that's a small price to pay for stability i guess

MaT

As far as I'm aware, Apple handles graphics card drivers for the Mac.

reckless_0001 · Nov 16, 2004, 05:32 PM

Right On!!! mLAN audio... it's what i'm waiting for to increase compatibility with my Yamaha 01X.

thecow · Nov 16, 2004, 05:36 PM

Yay! I will get ut2k4 back! 10.3.6 messed it up.

MrMacMan · Nov 16, 2004, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longey Nowze

aren't the drivers handled by ATI and nVidia? or does Apple make them?

anyway this is always good, they just put one out and they are working on the next one that is amazing! I hope that they keep this pace! our uptimes will suffer, but that's a small price to pay for stability i guess

MaT

"All your drivers are published by us. -- Apple Computer"

Apple works closely with Game Devolpers and ATI/nVidia to develop the drivers tho, I mean they want to make sure that the macs can have and use similar features for both OS's.

maya · Nov 16, 2004, 05:53 PM

WoW, at this rate 10.4 will be out sooner than I thought. As one of the previous rumours states Jan-March 2005 is when Tiger OS will be released.

I am all excited

This is great news indeed.

patseguin · Nov 16, 2004, 05:54 PM

Good, maybe my 6800 card will perform like it's supposed to. Hopefully the drivers will fix the bugs to allow WoW to have pixel shaders.

iriejedi · Nov 16, 2004, 06:04 PM

I just bought that and it plays perfectly and FAST (2.5+6800) on everything as high as possible.

Maybe you should just reinstall it....

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Originally Posted by thecow

Yay! I will get ut2k4 back! 10.3.6 messed it up.

dizastor · Nov 16, 2004, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by m a y a

WoW, at this rate 10.4 will be out sooner than I thought. As one of the previous rumours states Jan-March 2005 is when Tiger OS will be released.

This rumor is about Panther, right? I would think updates to Panter are totally unrelated to Tiger's release date. That being said, I'm as anxious as the next guy when it comes to Tiger's impending release.

I think that the video driver updates are mostly to try to even the playing field for gaming... as many have seen with the beta test of WoW, something is fishy in driver land on the Mac side. It's sad that a huge game developer like Blizzard has poured so much time and money into developing a Mac release alongside the PC version only to run into driver issues and other problems. Hopefully if they get some of these things taken care of we might see some other companies develop popular titles for the mac at the same time as the PC version.

MacsRgr8 · Nov 16, 2004, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AirUncleP

Would have to guess that this would be the last update before 10.4.

I see no reason to guess that.

swissmann · Nov 16, 2004, 06:25 PM

Makes you wonder if there could ever be an update where they say, "All is fixed all is well" and never update again. It seems to me that no matter how hard they try there are bugs old or new. If they could get it completely right that would make me happy. (I know a bit to idealistic but still something to wish for).

FoxyKaye · 06:51 PM

Come on native DVR-108 support! I know these will be appearing in Macs soon, since they're the next step in Pioneer's lineup. Unless, of course, Apple switches providers, or waits till Tiger for native dual-layer burning...

themacman · Nov 16, 2004, 06:51 PM

so what tiger is the only thing that matters

Nov 16, 2004, 05:04 PM	#2
MrMacMan macrumors 601 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: 1 Block away from NYC.	Looks like an important update. We all love our graphics updates 'OpenGL, CoreGraphics... ATI Radeon graphics drivers,and Nvidia GeForce graphics drivers' Good good. Always love these update rumors! __________________ There is a little Steve in all of us! -->Folding is Fighting Against Disease and help MacRumors. Join Today!<-- Props to --> Shadowfax For Making My Avatar! IM Me On AIM Already!

Nov 16, 2004, 05:05 PM	#3
javabear90 macrumors 6502a Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Houston, TX	hopefully it will improve Fps in game. Also what happens if they get to 10.3.9 will the next one be 10.3.10 and then 10.3.11? that would be weird __________________ My website Nikon D200, D70, 70-200mm VR, 18-200 VR, 50mm f/1.8, 18-70mm, 12-24mm. Maxed out 15" MBP

Nov 16, 2004, 05:12 PM	#4
AirUncleP macrumors regular Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: USA	Would have to guess that this would be the last update before 10.4. __________________ plaid pants......and an argyal sweater......No he's not retarded! McToast gets it.......do you?

Nov 16, 2004, 05:20 PM	#8
wrldwzrd89 macrumors 601 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Solon, OH	Better PostScript rendering is the only change that I consider particularly important. New graphics card drivers are always nice, especially when you take Quartz Extreme into account. Other than that, though, I don't use any of the other things that are supposed to be updated. __________________ Proud iMac and iPod touch owner Successfully upgraded iMac to 1TB HDD

Nov 16, 2004, 05:22 PM	#10
Lepton macrumors 6502 Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Long Island, NY	Tweak for new hardware It's not unusual to release a tweak to the OS to handle new hardware. With a MacWorld coming up, this may include new code for new models of Mac..

Nov 16, 2004, 05:13 PM	#5
combatcolin macrumors 68020 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Northants, UK	Does anyone actually sleep at Apple?

Nov 16, 2004, 05:14 PM	#6
blufire macrumors regular Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: California	"Before year's end?" Does that mean they won't be releasing a fix for the MDD audio issue for a long while? That's not very responsible of them :P

Nov 16, 2004, 05:22 PM	#9
1macker1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: A Higher Level	WOW at the recent number of updates. I feel sorry for the 56k users.

Nov 16, 2004, 05:23 PM	#11
Longey Nowze macrumors regular Join Date: Apr 2001	aren't the drivers handled by ATI and nVidia? or does Apple make them? anyway this is always good, they just put one out and they are working on the next one that is amazing! I hope that they keep this pace! our uptimes will suffer, but that's a small price to pay for stability i guess MaT __________________ STOP THE THE KILLING please. s/he might not be moody, s/he might have Bipolar disorder and suffering... learn to help

Nov 16, 2004, 05:23 PM	#12
russed macrumors 68000 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: London, England	wow, lots of news today! any update is a good update (well apart from 10.3.6, i'm just not entirely happy with it!) i hope it will turn my 12" pb into a monsterous dual 3ghz g5 with 2 gigs of ram! __________________ all the ducks are swimming in the water...

Nov 16, 2004, 05:32 PM	#13
bousozoku Retired (Moderator emeritus) Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Gone but not forgotten.	I'm glad they're fixing the kernel. Maybe they'll finally get the throughput up and the SMP leak down. Always glad to see that they're working on OpenGL and the video card drivers. I'm sorry that they're not fixing the networking. It's been a year since I've had reliable access between my machines. I suppose the good thing is that they haven't made it completely impossible or I'd have to continue to use my Zip drive to transfer files. In any case, it looks like we're going all the way to 10.3.9 before we get real stability.

Nov 16, 2004, 05:32 PM	#15
reckless_0001 macrumors 6502 Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Canada	Right On!!! mLAN audio... it's what i'm waiting for to increase compatibility with my Yamaha 01X.

Nov 16, 2004, 05:36 PM	#16
thecow macrumors 6502 Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Timonium MD	Yay! I will get ut2k4 back! 10.3.6 messed it up. __________________ Procrastinators of the world unite tomorrow!

Nov 16, 2004, 05:53 PM	#18
maya macrumors 68040 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: somewhere between here and there.	WoW, at this rate 10.4 will be out sooner than I thought. As one of the previous rumours states Jan-March 2005 is when Tiger OS will be released. I am all excited This is great news indeed. __________________ ~V~ :. it's here!!! .:

Nov 16, 2004, 05:54 PM	#19
patseguin macrumors 6502a Join Date: Aug 2003	Good, maybe my 6800 card will perform like it's supposed to. Hopefully the drivers will fix the bugs to allow WoW to have pixel shaders.

Nov 16, 2004, 06:25 PM	#23
swissmann macrumors 6502a Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Utah Alps	Makes you wonder if there could ever be an update where they say, "All is fixed all is well" and never update again. It seems to me that no matter how hard they try there are bugs old or new. If they could get it completely right that would make me happy. (I know a bit to idealistic but still something to wish for). __________________ Always looking for a faster Mac.

Nov 16, 2004, 06:49 PM	#24
FoxyKaye macrumors 65816 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oakland, Terre d'Ange, Bas Lag	Come on native DVR-108 support! I know these will be appearing in Macs soon, since they're the next step in Pioneer's lineup. Unless, of course, Apple switches providers, or waits till Tiger for native dual-layer burning... __________________ G5/2GHz iMac \| G3/600MHz iBook \| iPod 5G, 60GB \| 8GB CF modPod Mini The afternoon, born on the day of the sunlight streaming through the leaves. Last edited by FoxyKaye : Nov 16, 2004 at 06:51 PM.

Nov 16, 2004, 06:51 PM	#25
themacman macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: kc	so so what tiger is the only thing that matters

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