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macrumors 68040
Join Date: Jul 2002
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New C.I.A. Chief Tells Workers to Back Administration Policies
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more than anything else lately, i've been dividing people into the curious and non-curious. and i'm finding that everyone i hang out with, like and respect fall into the "curious" category. bush can't even be bothered to read a newspaper. what a joke.
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macrumors 68000
Join Date: Feb 2004
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There's an old, old saying that if you're dumb, surround yourself with smart people...and if you're smart, surround yourself with smart people who disagree with you.
(God only knows which of those categories Bush falls into. But either way he's not doing it.) So this is just more consolidation of power. Ve vill not haff any dissent in zis administration!
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macrumors 65816
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At the risk of mixing metaphors, how does the saying " the squeaky wheel gets the grease" apply when "all the wheels have come off"?
Interesting strategy. I use "interesting" as any other (more) appropriate adjective would be too depressing this morning.
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macrumors 68040
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While it's probably an appropriate sentiment (not actively championing opposition to the president as an agent) the wording is less than sensitive. The CIA shouldn't be making or dictating policy. That should fall to the president and his advisors.
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macrumors 68000
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Well, here's a perfect example of what can happen when workers are afraid to disagree with their supervisor:
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macrumors 603
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When you're doing this job, it really isn't your job to play politics publicly or hinder your own organization. It makes everyone look bad when you do, let the face men of the agency play politics. So while the message isn't exactly a bad one, the delivery (wording) and the explanation behind it are less than ideal.
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macrumors 65816
Join Date: Jul 2004
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The CIAs job is to provide intelligence, why the need for directives concerning whose policies to respect or support?
The CIA aren't the GOP, they are not the RNC, they are the CIA. They gather intelligence, this one is pretty hard to spin folks. The Whitehouse is looking for specific information and they'll have interference from those bothered by facts or the truth it seems. The Whitehouse should have reprimanded itself after the last intelligence gaffe concerning Iraq, but are now trying to make the CIA toe the line even more. I fail to see where values apply to this Administration. |
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collection is only half the CIA's job. the other is analysis. i fear for the latter.
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It's not like the CIA needs to keep the public confident that the entire organization is working together publically, while they talk around the water cooler about the idiots in charge behind closed doors.
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It is in the interpreting of the data that one's personal views can enter into an analysis. Several commentaries about CIA mid- and upper-level people not being objective have been publicized recently. It seems to me that the totality of Goss' statement indicates that he wants objectivity.
See Jack Wheeler's columns in World Net Daily about CIA middle- and upper-echelon people. I read a lot of his stuff back when he wrote for Strategic Investment (financial newsletter) and he's quite astute at viewing world events. An analyst with a personal axe to grind can create intelligence failures which can result in events like the destruction of the World Trade Center--which is why the CIA is not supposed to "support" or "subvert" the policies of ANY administration/regime. 'Rat
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macrumors 68040
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It's also why you aren't supposed to stovepipe or cherrypick intel. Looking at only the parts that support your views is just as bad as someone else looking at the intel and championing opposition based on their own selective use of the data. It's why you shouldn't have an 'Office of Strategic Plans'.
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Well, looks like two more of the CIA's top guys decided not to play ball with the new regime.
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So in reference to "Repubicans are shocked, SHOCKED, that this could happen!" that thread, did the Democrats ever try anything on this level?
It's a wonder they lost power at all if they were so evil. |
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