Go Back   MacRumors Forums > Archive > Archives of Old Posts > Macintosh Computers

 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old Nov 22, 2004, 05:10 AM   #1
Dunepilot
macrumors 6502a
 
Dunepilot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: UK
Send a message via MSN to Dunepilot
Angry Combo Drive in Dual 867 G4 is misbehaving

Hi everyone,

While watching a DVD in bed the other night, I just shut down my Mac as I felt myself falling asleep. So all apps quit, then the machine (running 10.3.6) went into the shutdown process. I fell asleep immediately, then woke up about 2 hours later to hear the fan still running with a black screen. I performed a hard reset, and went back to sleep.

Waking up on Sunday, I started up my machine again, and ran fsck -f in single user boot. It fixed a couple of minor problems (probably created by the slightly wierd shutdown), but after booting fully into the OS, I found out that the optical combo drive (a Philips CDD5101) won't accept any media any more. If you insert a DVD it spits it back out a few seconds later. Same thing with CDs of any description. You can hear that the drive isn't even trying to spin up the disc.

What has happened? Has the firmware got corrupted or something? How do I reinstall it, if so, and where can I get the firmware for this drive from (the Philips site doesn't help me there). I've tried booting this machine from OS 9.2.2, OS 10.2.6 and OS 10.3.6 (from different hard disks), and that doesn't rectify the problem, so I'm pretty sure this isn't to do with the OS getting damaged.

If somebody could help me out here, that'd be great.
Cheers
Dune
__________________
Wii Code - 0279-2698-2658-0111 - Dunepilot
Dunepilot is offline   0
Old Nov 22, 2004, 06:03 AM   #2
wrldwzrd89
macrumors G4
 
wrldwzrd89's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Solon, OH
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dunepilot
Hi everyone,

While watching a DVD in bed the other night, I just shut down my Mac as I felt myself falling asleep. So all apps quit, then the machine (running 10.3.6) went into the shutdown process. I fell asleep immediately, then woke up about 2 hours later to hear the fan still running with a black screen. I performed a hard reset, and went back to sleep.

Waking up on Sunday, I started up my machine again, and ran fsck -f in single user boot. It fixed a couple of minor problems (probably created by the slightly wierd shutdown), but after booting fully into the OS, I found out that the optical combo drive (a Philips CDD5101) won't accept any media any more. If you insert a DVD it spits it back out a few seconds later. Same thing with CDs of any description. You can hear that the drive isn't even trying to spin up the disc.

What has happened? Has the firmware got corrupted or something? How do I reinstall it, if so, and where can I get the firmware for this drive from (the Philips site doesn't help me there). I've tried booting this machine from OS 9.2.2, OS 10.2.6 and OS 10.3.6 (from different hard disks), and that doesn't rectify the problem, so I'm pretty sure this isn't to do with the OS getting damaged.

If somebody could help me out here, that'd be great.
Cheers
Dune
I just did a google search, and there appears to be no firmware updates for Macs using that particular drive. My thinking is that it's quite possible that the odd shutdown somehow zapped the CD drive electronics. I really don't know for sure though.
__________________
iMac Intel (Rev H, 27"), 1TB HDD, 16GB RAM, 10.8.4
wrldwzrd89 is offline   0
Old Nov 22, 2004, 07:13 AM   #3
Dunepilot
Thread Starter
macrumors 6502a
 
Dunepilot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: UK
Send a message via MSN to Dunepilot
Quote:
Originally Posted by wrldwzrd89
I just did a google search, and there appears to be no firmware updates for Macs using that particular drive. My thinking is that it's quite possible that the odd shutdown somehow zapped the CD drive electronics. I really don't know for sure though.
Is that really all that likely? I've never heard of such a thing happening before!

Also, if I'm going to have to replace this drive, is a Pioneer DVR-108 a good way to go?

Cheers
Dune
__________________
Wii Code - 0279-2698-2658-0111 - Dunepilot

Last edited by Dunepilot; Nov 22, 2004 at 09:58 AM.
Dunepilot is offline   0
Old Nov 22, 2004, 10:59 AM   #4
wrldwzrd89
macrumors G4
 
wrldwzrd89's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Solon, OH
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dunepilot
Is that really all that likely? I've never heard of such a thing happening before!

Also, if I'm going to have to replace this drive, is a Pioneer DVR-108 a good way to go?

Cheers
Dune
Neither have I. I HIGHLY recommend Pioneer drives - either the DVR-108 or the DVR-A08 would be your best choice.
__________________
iMac Intel (Rev H, 27"), 1TB HDD, 16GB RAM, 10.8.4
wrldwzrd89 is offline   0
Old Nov 25, 2004, 09:27 AM   #5
Dunepilot
Thread Starter
macrumors 6502a
 
Dunepilot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: UK
Send a message via MSN to Dunepilot
Quote:
Originally Posted by wrldwzrd89
Neither have I. I HIGHLY recommend Pioneer drives - either the DVR-108 or the DVR-A08 would be your best choice.
Will be getting a DVR-108 as soon as the ebay seller puts it my way
__________________
Wii Code - 0279-2698-2658-0111 - Dunepilot
Dunepilot is offline   0
Old Nov 25, 2004, 10:09 AM   #6
caveman_uk
Guest
 
caveman_uk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Hitchin, Herts, UK
I'm not sure the DVR-108 is supported natively by the iApps - though obviously it's supported by toast. I have the DVR-107D and that is definately supported by the iApps without further tweaking. If you need a hack to get the 108 supported then Patchburn is the way to go.
caveman_uk is offline   0
Old Nov 25, 2004, 01:14 PM   #7
Mechcozmo
macrumors 603
 
Mechcozmo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Next time, though, quit all your applications and THEN shut the computer down. That's my only real idea... maybe zapping the PRAM would work?
__________________
This is not the signature you're looking for.
This is not the signature we're looking for.
You can scroll down now.
You can scroll down now.
Mechcozmo is offline   0
Old Dec 3, 2004, 05:30 AM   #8
Dunepilot
Thread Starter
macrumors 6502a
 
Dunepilot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: UK
Send a message via MSN to Dunepilot
Okay, so the new Superdrive works very nicely now that I've installed patchburn and I've even put together my first ever DVD using my Powermac and iDVD. No installation, nothing.

But here's the kicker - my mate tried installing the dodgy combo drive in his Celeron (yuuurgh!) machine, running Windows 2K, and it works perfectly!

Zapping the pram sounds like a good idea - I'll try that if/when I get the drive back. It's command-p-r isn't it?

Cheers
Dune
__________________
Wii Code - 0279-2698-2658-0111 - Dunepilot
Dunepilot is offline   0
Old Dec 3, 2004, 09:09 AM   #9
5300cs
macrumors 68000
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: japan
Zapping PRAM

Sorry, aren't you pissed that the old drive died like that? If it were me, I'd be really pissed
__________________
5300cs is offline   0


 
MacRumors Forums > Archive > Archives of Old Posts > Macintosh Computers

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Similar Threads
thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Mac mini G4 Combo Drive Buhtwheat PowerPC Macs 11 May 17, 2014 06:35 PM
Worth upgrading MB to dual SSD & HDD combo LERsince1991 Buying Tips and Advice 17 Apr 20, 2014 06:09 PM
Possible to burn movie CD with combo drive? Jalopy PowerPC Macs 6 Aug 19, 2013 11:54 AM
DIY fusion drive or dual drive combo Captdaverobinso iMac 6 Jan 6, 2013 03:43 PM
Questions about Power Mac G4 MDD Dual 867 powerpcguy PowerPC Macs 15 Oct 24, 2012 02:09 PM

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:38 AM.

Mac Rumors | Mac | iPhone | iPhone Game Reviews | iPhone Apps

Mobile Version | Fixed | Fluid | Fluid HD
Copyright 2002-2013, MacRumors.com, LLC