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Old Aug 14, 2010, 01:14 PM   #1
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Some SSH questions from a newbie.

Hi all,

I want to venture into the world of SSH. This is my very first iPhone and I'm so glad I decided to jailbreak. All of the customization and shortcuts I miss coming from a BB I can now have on this phone. In my opinion, makes it 100 times better than an unjailbroken phone.

So far, I've just been using Winterboard and Cydia, but I keep reading about SSH and negative things about Winterboard, Cydia and Rock. So, I just have a few questions.

1. What is SSH exactly?

2. How does using SSH versus Cydia and Winterboard affect memory and battery life?

3. For apps like InfoLock and SBSettings, would you still have to use cydia, or can you just "SSH" those apps into your phone? Or is SSH reserved only for theme aspects of the phone?

4. I've read that Cyberduck is a good program to use, or would you recommend something else?

Sorry if any of the questions are confusing. I've also tried to find a good how to website for beginners in the SSH world, but haven't come up with any good ones. If anyone has any suggestions, I'd greatly appreciate it.

Thanks!

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Old Aug 14, 2010, 01:18 PM   #2
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Here you will find most of your answer:

http://www.simonblog.com/2009/05/17/...ile-on-iphone/

also quick search in the forum will bring you some of the common question for starters

As a side note, I personally try to avoid SSH as much as i can, even when I used it everyday it just an un-necessary resource running on my iPhone for me, I use iPhoneDisk and iPhone Explorer type of program than no required SSH, they just mount the File system locally like it would be external Hard drive.

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Old Aug 14, 2010, 01:19 PM   #3
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1) A method of transferring files to/from your jailbroken iPhone

2) It doesn't

3) You can do either

4) I use Cyberduck, no complaints

5) Google some tutorials
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Old Aug 14, 2010, 01:35 PM   #4
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Use DiskAid and forget about SSH....
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Use DiskAid and forget about SSH....
+10 I have never been able to figure out why people use SSH (other than for running terminal commands) when USB is faster and waaaay easier (and technically safer as you don't deal with the SSH security issues...
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I have never been able to figure out why people use SSH
The day your iDevice gets stuck in a respring loop, and you can't afford to restore, you'll wish you had SSH access. I sure was happy to have it when I was messing with the wife's iPad. Issued a reboot command and all was well.
As far as security issues go, changing the passwords takes 10 seconds to do.
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The day your iDevice gets stuck in a respring loop, and you can't afford to restore, you'll wish you had SSH access. I sure was happy to have it when I was messing with the wife's iPad. Issued a reboot command and all was well.
As far as security issues go, changing the passwords takes 10 seconds to do.
Oh, I understand that type of use. But for just moving files around and such, SSH is far more inconvenient compared to USB
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Oh, I understand that type of use. But for just moving files around and such, SSH is far more inconvenient compared to USB
Ok this is probably a really stupid question but I'm also new to all of this. I have used iFile to add a homescreen and battery percentage on my 3G running 4.0.1 is that what SSH means? Sorry if this is a stupid question...lol
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Ok this is probably a really stupid question but I'm also new to all of this. I have used iFile to add a homescreen and battery percentage on my 3G running 4.0.1 is that what SSH means? Sorry if this is a stupid question...lol
Im not familiar with that program. Was your phone connected to your computer wirelessly or via a USB cable.
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Im not familiar with that program. Was your phone connected to your computer wirelessly or via a USB cable.
It wasn't connected to my computer at all. I did it all on my phone through iFile, which I downloaded from Cydia.
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It wasn't connected to my computer at all. I did it all on my phone through iFile, which I downloaded from Cydia.
Oh, then no. That is not SSH. SSH establishes a wireless connection from your phone to your computer.
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Ok this is probably a really stupid question but I'm also new to all of this. I have used iFile to add a homescreen and battery percentage on my 3G running 4.0.1 is that what SSH means? Sorry if this is a stupid question...lol
iFile is a File Manager, like Explorer for Windows, and Finder on OSx, it allow you to "manage" all the files in your file system.

SSH is a Network Protrocol, secure shell to connect multiple devices using a network connection.

You can check the link I posted above for more detail.

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SSH stands for secure shell that is commonly used in Unix/Linux environment. You can use SSH to access a remote a computer and execute commands from another machine that may be miles away. Additionally, you can use it to transfer files to the remote computer, just like FTP. Iím not going to dig deep and throw out all the technical details about SSH. But just remember, SSH is a tool that lets you access machine or devices remotely. Here, the device is your iPhone
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If you've changed your root password, is there really any security issue with OpenSSH?
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