Am I right to assume that MacBook Air would not get Retina, at least for now, because of battery life concerns?
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13-Inch Retina MacBook Pro Coming in October?
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I will put any amount of money on it not being $1200. $1500 is more like it.
The only thing that makes sense is for a future 13" to be Air, Pro, and Retina combined. (Then a year or two later, the 11" and 15" as well.)
You realize he was talking about real estate, not density, right? If it's got 2560x1600 pixel density, then it's 1280x800 in effective real estate.
also considering it'd be out of character for Apple to canabalize their own line 4 months after release.
According to my calculation, the price of the 13" MBPr will be $1599.
Here's how it breaks down...
Just take the current 13" price and compare that to a 15" price... the 15" is $600 more.
Now take the normal 15" MBP and compare it to the 15" MBPR... the MBPR is $400 more.
So..... $2199 - $600 = $1599
and.... $1199 + $400 = $1599
Makes perfect sense!
Yeah, the only problem is that the next step up is 1440x900, and that's already used by the 15" Retina MacBook Pro.
So either Apple reverts to having two laptops with different screen sizes, but the same actual resolution (like the 12"/14" iBooks), or the 13" Retina MBP will be 2560x1600. Sadly, my money's on the latter.
Alternatively, Apple could upgrade the 15" Retina MBP to 3360x2100 and put the 13" model at 2880x1800. But if they were going to do that in September/October, why release the 15" model with 2880x1800 now?
I'd love one of these. But damn, I hope they are under $2,000
Then again it might be better to wait for next years model in case there are any bugs they need to iron out etc.
Then again it might be better to wait for next years model in case there are any bugs they need to iron out etc.
No, it doesn't. Once they replace the current MBP line up and eliminate the leftovers all prices will come down. I.e. the current 15 retina will have a price of $1999.99.According to my calculation, the price of the 13" MBPr will be $1599.
Here's how it breaks down...
Just take the current 13" price and compare that to a 15" price... the 15" is $600 more.
Now take the normal 15" MBP and compare it to the 15" MBPR... the MBPR is $400 more.
So..... $2199 - $600 = $1599
and.... $1199 + $400 = $1599
Makes perfect sense!
According to my calculation, the price of the 13" MBPr will be $1599.
Here's how it breaks down...
Just take the current 13" price and compare that to a 15" price... the 15" is $600 more.
Now take the normal 15" MBP and compare it to the 15" MBPR... the MBPR is $400 more.
So..... $2199 - $600 = $1599
and.... $1199 + $400 = $1599
Makes perfect sense!
That would make it $100 more than the 13" MBA which has a 256 GB and but an i5, 4GB ram and only integrated video. So pretty unlikely.
If it's going to have an i7 (+$150) w/ 8GB (+$150) and retina (+$200) it s more likely to be in the range of $1799 - $1999.
{Edit: Just saw Konrad's post - I think the 13" and bottom 15" will be pretty close in price as there is not much to distinguish them without pushing into the high end MBA spec.).
Interesting release time, as it would be after the Back to School ends. It's not like Apple hasn't done this before - in fact, most of the past few years there's been a usual slight speed bump following the B2S season - but never an upgrade of this magnitude.
Now some people are probably saying college kids shouldn't even get/need the 13" retina, and I wholeheartedly agree, but 20-somethings just have to blow their cash or credit cards on shiny Apple products for any reason (coming from a recent grad that doesn't).
I guess August was their ideal date, since it would be right in the rush of B2S, but not everything can always come out at the best time.
Now some people are probably saying college kids shouldn't even get/need the 13" retina, and I wholeheartedly agree, but 20-somethings just have to blow their cash or credit cards on shiny Apple products for any reason (coming from a recent grad that doesn't).
I guess August was their ideal date, since it would be right in the rush of B2S, but not everything can always come out at the best time.
There's a big problem with a MBPr 13.
The GPU. An Intel HD4000 GPU will not be good enough for the resolution of such a laptop, simply put. There needs to be a more potent GPU for this, but space constraints are going to be a big impediment to Apple's ability in putting in a better GPU. Also, knowing Apple we can say that the MBPr 13 will probably be thinner than it's non-retina counterpart, which makes space constraints even worse.
In my opinion, eGPUs need to come into play. Thunderbolt allows this to happen, but where are the devices?!
The GPU. An Intel HD4000 GPU will not be good enough for the resolution of such a laptop, simply put. There needs to be a more potent GPU for this, but space constraints are going to be a big impediment to Apple's ability in putting in a better GPU. Also, knowing Apple we can say that the MBPr 13 will probably be thinner than it's non-retina counterpart, which makes space constraints even worse.
In my opinion, eGPUs need to come into play. Thunderbolt allows this to happen, but where are the devices?!
Is this something Apple would release alongside the iPhone 5 at an October event? As an intro at the Keynote, like this years MBP announcement...
So many great products - they're running out of events to announce them all! Especially with iMac updates, iPhone 5, iPod, Apple TV software and maybe even a TV itself still to come.
It's all happening in Apple land!
So many great products - they're running out of events to announce them all! Especially with iMac updates, iPhone 5, iPod, Apple TV software and maybe even a TV itself still to come.
It's all happening in Apple land!
Seriously, what the hell would an optical drive less macbook pro 13 inch have over the 13 inch macbook air?
Ok, maybe a few more ports and a faster cpu but a higher res screen really wouldn't have be jumping ship.
My new 13 inch air has 1440x900 resolution and that is insane. My old swivel neck g4 iMac 17 inch has the same effing resolution.
But you know it will happen and the resolution will be higher than the air to justify the jump.
Ok, maybe a few more ports and a faster cpu but a higher res screen really wouldn't have be jumping ship.
My new 13 inch air has 1440x900 resolution and that is insane. My old swivel neck g4 iMac 17 inch has the same effing resolution.
But you know it will happen and the resolution will be higher than the air to justify the jump.
I sincerely hope this machine has a dedicated GPU. If not, it's just a heavier/thicker MBA with a nicer display. I don't see the point of a machine like that...
I'd love one of these. But damn, I hope they are under $2,000
Then again it might be better to wait for next years model in case there are any bugs they need to iron out etc.
It'll also be a good idea to wait until next year when the price drops just like the MBA did.
One more thought. The current MBPs are cheap in part because they have standard hard drives, but the retina can't accommodate that.
So they either start the bottom 13" MBP with a 128GB hd, which is the same as the MBA, or more likely jump it to 256GB which will jump the price up.
Anyway, I don't care, I'm put my order in on the 15".
So they either start the bottom 13" MBP with a 128GB hd, which is the same as the MBA, or more likely jump it to 256GB which will jump the price up.
Anyway, I don't care, I'm put my order in on the 15".
All these models will eventually merge into only three models, 11" 13" and 15".
If not next year with haswell then probably in 2014 with the broadwell 14nm shrinkage.
If not next year with haswell then probably in 2014 with the broadwell 14nm shrinkage.
If you get your MBPr through the education store, you'll get it for that price TODAY!
I ordered a MBA through the education store and... amazingly, they didn't ask me for any proof of education... I mean I have a school ID and email address that aren't attached to my account yet... but they didn't ask me for an ID at all.... Maybe the $50 discount and the $100 gift card wasn't much to go through the hassle of asking for proof?
If the new 13" MBPr is priced at $1599.... $1399 after education discount, I'll SO regret my order of the MBA.
You can adjust the resolution to give more real estate with os x. Go check out the reviews on anandtech for the 15 mbps.