15inch PowerBook and ATI?

Discussion in 'Mac Blog Discussion' started by MacRumors, Sep 15, 2003.

  1. macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001
    PowerPage claims that the 15" PowerBooks are "cleared for distribution" and will contain a 64MB ATI Graphics chip.
  2. macrumors member

    Apr 10, 2003
    The only thing I can say is
    "Either YES Either NO"
    We'll just have to wait another day.
  3. macrumors newbie

    Jun 9, 2003
    doesn´t the 15" tibook already have 64mb ati graphics?
  4. macrumors member

    Apr 10, 2003
    Yepp! you're right it has an "ATI Mobility Radeon 9000 64MB DDR video"
  5. macrumors 6502a


    Oct 20, 2002
    Malmö, Sweden

    I guess that would have to be a Radeon Mobility 9600 or something. They wouldn't dare to put a 9000 in it, would they? Right? Right? Anyone?

    edit: typo
  6. macrumors member

    Aug 7, 2001
    ATI 9600 Pro with 128MB would be really really nice :)
  7. macrumors G3


    Mar 20, 2003
    San Francisco
    that'd be better than all of the powermac options except for the 9800... I don't think they'll do it. 9600 with 64 MB seems much more reasonable and likely. That would still be very nice.
  8. macrumors 68000


    Oct 21, 2002
    But would definitely be too hot and power hungry. But I sure hope they don't leave it alone. imagine how behind it would be in another 10 months when the next poerbooks come out. :D
  9. macrumors newbie

    Jul 24, 2002
    Woowowoo, probably a radeon 9600, great! nVidia mobility solution suck! my radeon 9000 mobility 32VRAM in my current powerbook is good, I love it, I would never have bought the 17' pb in it's current spec cause of the video card. Tought I would like to change my Ti 867MHz 15' for a Ti 1GHz 15' only to get the 64 VRAM.

    Sometime I love playing games:cool:
  10. macrumors regular

    Feb 4, 2003
    This site used to make sense...

    But now they're sounding more and more like MacWhispers...

    First there was the rumor about the OS on the new PB ( some had 10.2.7, some had Panther, some had Panther lite??? ) and next the rumor the PB's would not be announced in Paris.

    Now that every reliable site says that Paris will be it, the come out with this CYA ( cover your ass ) story that the PB's are ready to ship...

    Geez! :rolleyes:
  11. macrumors member

    Jul 22, 2002
    At this point in time...

    ...Steve Jobs himself could walk into my house, put a 15" AL pbook into my hands , turn on the RDF, show me how great it is and I'd still not believe they existed!

    It's gonna take a lot more than a few web sites saying they've been released to make me believe I can tell you.

    I'm not convinced the dual G5's really exist anymore so why should I believe any PBook announced in Paris is likely to be any more real?


    Sceptical?! Moi!?
  12. macrumors 68020


    Jan 9, 2002
    Austin, TX
    The radeon mobility 9600 would put some serious graphics power in the PowerBook...

    They would also make the 12" PowerBook very nice...

    I just think nVidia's mobile offerings are underpowered, and even though Apple is under space/power/heat constraints with their PowerBooks, it wouldn't hurt to put in a very nice graphics card.
  13. macrumors 68000


    Jul 9, 2001
    London, UK
    Having 128mb instead of 64mb in the graphics card would not make more heat or take anymore power that you would notice the difference. Putting more RAM in a PB G4 does not make any difference to the heat or power usage.

    Anyway I will be very supprised if it is not a Radeon 9600M since Apple has improved the graphics in almost every powerbook revision since the original PB G3 came out.

    PB G3 233-292Mhz ATI Rage LT
    PB G3 233-300Mhz ATI Rage Pro M
    PB G3 300-400Mhz ATI Rage 128M
    PB G3 400-500Mhz ATI Rage 128M
    PB G4 400-500Mhz ATI Rage 128M AGP
    PB G4 550-667Mhz ATI Radeon 7200M
    PB G4 667-800Mhz ATI Radeon 7500M
    PB G4 867-1000Mhz ATI Radeon 9000M
  14. macrumors newbie

    Apr 25, 2003
    Connecticut College, New London, CT
    Yeah the 9600 would be nice in the PowerBooks. It would definitely have 64 megs; they would NOT have more V-RAM than all of the normal Power Mac models (not custom-ordered). They really have to put the 9800 or at least the 9600 with 128 megs of RAM in at least the dual 2 GHz machine. The graphics cards in Macs are still pathetic compared to PCs. :(

  15. macrumors member

    Jul 1, 2003
    The rumors sites are (mostly) acting like this round of 'books will use Nvidia chips. Hopefully that will mean that at least some of the 'books will have 128MB Geforce 5600s. They're not as good as the Radeon 9600, but they're a heck of a lot better than what's in there now...

    As long as some of the 'books have either Radeon 9600s or Geforce 5600s with 128MB I'll think Apple's at least being semi-competant. If they stick something like a Geforce 5200 in a high end model, I'll laugh and go upgrade my x86 box instead :(
  16. macrumors regular

    Jan 8, 2003
    New Jersey
    Now there's a mix-up for you.

    If Apple doesn't put such-and-such in the Powerbooks then I'll go spend my money on a Windoze Desktop?!?

    What? Are you going to pack your desktop into your backback and set it up whenever you want to use it?

    Not very relevant to a Powerbook Discussion.
  17. macrumors 6502a


    Oct 20, 2002
    Malmö, Sweden
    I think we are more looking at a graphic card from the Mobility range than the Pro range...
  18. macrumors member

    Jun 23, 2003
    Not to defend a Windows use, but it does make a little sense if a) you opted for a Powerbook as a desktop replacement (as I did) and b) you chose to do so knowing that your laptop needs were minimal but still useful in some circumstances (as it is for me).

    I only rarely have need to unplug my PB 15" and travel with it, but it was useful enough for me to want the portability and I could do without some of the PowerMac features, like expandability.

    Unfortunately with the new G5 options available currently only on the desktop, and since we are considering upgrading my wife's iMac, I'm torn. She wants a laptop, but I'm not sure about how long the current models are going to remain available. I would prefer to step in with the first G5 PB iteration. Ugh. Choice. :confused:
  19. macrumors regular

    Nov 6, 2002
    Palo Alto
    I could be totally wrong, but if there is more RAM, doesn't that mean there is more circuitry (hence resistance) that needs to be driven? That would increase the power requirements right?

    Honestly though, I know very little EE and CompE so if someone knows better and could clarify that would be great.
  20. macrumors 601


    Mar 12, 2002
    BrisVegas, Australia
    so Apple has never released a PowerBook without a video upgrade. i just hope they continue that trend with the new PB's. i'm not too sure whether or not to trust PowerPage.org though...:rolleyes:
  21. macrumors member

    Jul 1, 2003
    I was going to buy a PowerBook and use it as my main system at home and work. Increasingly I’m realizing that as much as I hate to admit it, the three main apps I use work better (or only) on Windows…so it’s already iffy as to whether I should be buying a Mac at all right now. If Apple puts outdated hardware in a PowerBook, that makes my decision that much easier.
  22. macrumors 68000


    Jun 21, 2002
    Colorado Springs, Colorado
    It will be great to have a 9600M in the PowerBooks... I hope the LCD's have higher res.. too.
  23. macrumors member

    Jul 1, 2003
    Ugh, I hope they DON'T have higher resolution screens, or that it's an option. I wouldn't buy an LCD with a higher resolution than the 15 and 17" PowerBooks already have.
  24. macrumors member

    Jul 25, 2003
    I know this is just nit-picking.....but;

    PB G3 300-400Mhz ATI Rage LT Pro
    PB G3 400-500Mhz ATI Rage 128M AGP

    The Rage 128M inside the Pismo is on a 2X AGP bus. I'm unsure about the Lombard, but I think that was just on a standard PCI bus.

  25. macrumors member

    Jul 25, 2003

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