160GB iPod only 147GB usable...

Discussion in 'iPod' started by Shorties, Sep 13, 2007.

  1. macrumors 6502a

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    Don't get me wrong I know there is the formating and stuff that takes up room, but a 160GB iPod that only lets you use 150GBs, why don't they just label it as a 150GB iPod. I mean it wasn't as big of a difference when it was only 27 usable on my old 30, but 13 gigabytes is a lot, heck its bigger then the iPhone and the Nanos.
     
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    balamw

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    Sigh.... Adapted from a previous post...

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    My MBP has the same thing... 160MB HD, 147GB usable. Remember, its a HD player, not flash. That loss is due purely to formatting. And they call it a 160GB HD because it is, and it looks better than saying "New MBP, with a 150GB HD".
     
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    balamw

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    The main issue is that drives are SOLD in Gigabytes, while sizes are usually REPORTED in Gibibytes. See my post above. File system overhead (a.k.a. formatting) is much lower than that, but may be responsible for your 160 GB drive reporting 147 GiB instead of 149 GiB.

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  5. macrumors 68000

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    Seriously?? Hasn't this been covered enough
     
  6. macrumors newbie

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    it is not just formatting...

    besides formatting there is software in a Hard Drive that you can't see if you have ever done an erase of a PC you may have noticed a screen with the words Department of Homeland Security. The easiest analogy would be a black box an airplane anything that was done on the airplane is recorded. Any thing that is done on a computer is recorded on the hard drive. It takes a certain level of government clearance to access what was recorded. This applies to hard drives as well as some flash drives.
     
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    OllyW

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    WTF? :confused:

    I've wiped the hard drives on dozens of PCs (& Macs) and have never seen anything like that.

    Are you wearing a tin foil hat? :rolleyes:
     
  8. macrumors 604

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    Paranoid much? You gotta be kidding. Have you ever looked at the details of how file systems are organized?
     
  9. macrumors 603

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    I do wish someone would make storage makers tell us how much actual space something has. I have an "8GB" iPhone yet can only put 7.2GB of stuff on there. If they're going to label it as 8GB, at least tell me a ballpark of an actual formatted capacity.
     
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    TuffLuffJimmy

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    In other words you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
     
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    apsterling

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    Yeah I saw that in a movie or something once.
    :rolleyes:


    This does drive me nuts (horrible pun, so bite me. Crap, there's another one) a little bit, but I've always accounted for it before picking up the drives.
     
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    notjustjay

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    No no, he's right. The reason there's only 147 gigs available on a 160 gig iPod is because the other 13 "missing" gigs contains a complete record of every song you've ever listened to! They can also tell where the song came from, and if you downloaded it illegally, or shoplifted the CD you ripped it from (yes, they can tell! Ever notice that RFID tag scanner installed somewhere near your disc drive?? They've been secretly installing them in every drive since 2001), they can send the info to the RIAA and prosecute. They can get your name and address from the Address Book records when you sync your iPod! The usage data is synced back to your Mac (that's why sometimes the sync takes a few seconds longer, and you're not really sure why) and sent to Apple when you do Software Updates. That's why you don't suspect anything!

    Don't even get me started on what they're really doing with Mobile Me... :eek:
     
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    TuffLuffJimmy

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    :eek:
    I'd wish they put all those resources that they put into spying on me into development of copy and paste on the iPhone...
     
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