1Password to rule them all

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    Category: 3rd Party Software
    Link: 1Password to rule them all
    Description:: Use the same password for everything? Is it different from your PIN number? If you've got a Mac, now's the time to get serious about security with 1Password.

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    Honestly Im not a fan of paying for small programs, but this one is amazing!! I give it a ten out of ten hands down! Anytime you enter a password on a new website is asks you if you want to save it, it works so well. Now all i do is open the program, via the safari tool bar, and click each site i want to log into. So with in 3 seconds I have logged into my car Web site, mac rumors, 3 banks, and my stocks. its just the best, well well worth the money and the updates flow down all the time. I cant say enough about this product. Oh also this program syncs to your iphone via one click. So if your surfing the net on the iphone you know inputting a long password is a pain. All you do is go to the site, hit bookmarks, click onepassword, and enter you single password, and it does the rest, its awesome!
     
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    Yeah, if there was only one 3rd party app I could have on my Mac it would be 1Password.
     
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    mainstreetmark

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    Really?

    I couldn't even work out what it was for. It seems to do all the same stuff that the browser + Keychain.app does. This came with one of the bundles, and i used it for like a month, but it didn't appear to do anything "new".
     
  5. macrumors member

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    Yah, I got this with a bundle as well, and I've wondered the same thing: what exactly does this do different than the keychain?
     
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    Full disclosure: I am one of the 1Password developers. With that said, let me answer your question :)

    1Password starts where the Keychain leaves off. We actually use the keychain to store all your information, and then build from there to include cross-browser support, better autofill (including multiple profiles and credit card filling), built-in password generation, and probably best of all, you can save logins for any website, including Financial sites that prevent Safari’s autofill and other sites that also give Safari troubles, such as two-step logins and sites with multiple password fields.

    1Password also has an iPhone/iPod touch version so you can access and use your passwords from anywhere, and recently we added Enhanced Phishing Protection by integrating with PhishTank.

    In short, watch the video :)
     
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    What's so bad about Keychain?
     
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    GoCubsGo

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    This says it all.....
     
  9. macrumors newbie

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    Nothing. Keychain is very useful and that's why 1Password uses it to store all your information.

    I think a better comparison is "What's so bad about Safari AutoFill", since 1Password is effectively performing the same service as Safari's AutoFill.

    While Safari's AutoFill is okay for the simple case, there are many areas where it falls short. In addition to the points in my previous post, one of my biggest pet peeves is how hard AutoFill makes it to have multiple logins for the same site. The very fact that LifeHacker wrote an article on how to Find lost passwords in the Mac Keychain signals that there are some short comings. The article discusses how to find a `lost` password when the login page changes, but the same can happen if you have multiple logins and you forget one of the usernames.
     
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    What I worry about with relying on things like keychain and programs like 1password, is the what if my password file gets corrupted? If I don't actually *remember* all my passwords, I'm stuck. Is there any way to have a failsafe backup of the passwords?
     
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    clevin

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    roboform has free version, can't you guys release a free version of some sort?
     
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    You can print out the database which gives you your username/password and the web address.

    They also have an upcoming online access system that is an invite only beta although not sure how that works as I am not on it.
     
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    wordmunger

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    Wow, that's what I needed to know. I might actually try this thing.
     
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    I have this from one of the software bundled I purchased. Still haven't used it, though. Until I can auto-sync between 2 Macs without using .Mac (like using a regular web server), it's just not going to work for me. I really want to use it, though.

    By the way, can you tell it to specifically NOT install on one of your browsers? (So it will install on Firefox, but not on Safari?)
     
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    Yes. All browser plug-ins are optional. It has support for quite a few browsers too.
    I've been using it for over a year now. Love it! There's a reason it's been so highly rated around the web.
    As for the failsafe backup, not only can you print out your passwords and secure notes, it also backs up, just like your login keychain, to any destination you choose (.Mac, Apple Backup, Time Machine, etc.). Another plus is it's not a 3rd-party file format. It's an actual keychain file that can be read by Keychain. This should bring you some peace of mind as well.

    I'm perfectly ok with paying for this product. Roboform isn't even in the same league as 1Password. Just look at the reviews.
     
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    I love 1Password. My old passwords were seriously lame and I knew that but never really bothered with it. 1Password came with the MacHeist bundle a while and I gave all the programs in the bundle a try. 1Password is the only one I use regularly. I have never ever stored my passwords in a web browser before and I'm not really sure why.

    After I got the hang of the program I now use it for pretty much all my passwords. I also took the time to move my random smattering of registration code e-mails into secure notes for finding out my serial numbers easier. It also allows you to install it on multiple computers you own with your single license which allows me to keep the keychains synced between my Mac Pro and MacBook Air. I almost always have my iPhone with me so my passwords are always available to me.

    I have also contemplated giving the master password to a trusted family member in case of my demise. It'd make it easier for them to access my accounts. Since they would have to be on my computer to access the actual passwords there isn't too much harm there anyway.

    It also gives some protection against phishing attacks in that if they send you to hotmaill.com instead of hotmail.com it won't let you access the password set since the domain is different.

    Modifications I would love to see though are (providing it's not there and I'm being dense)...

    1) Sometimes I have one user name and password that works on multiple sites. It seems I have to store the login and password twice or more (once for each site) in 1Password. If I change the password I have to change it multiple times.

    2) It seems like when I add a new password I have to manually tell it to resync with my iPhone. It would be nice if it automatically did this. I'm fairly sure the reason it doesn't though is because it generates a pure javascript page and doesn't know your password in order to encrypt the new one. Still a bummer and I'm not sure of a way around it. Maybe it could prompt you when you add a new one from Safari? I guess if it stored your iPhone unlock password in the keychain on your Mac, it could reencrypt the JS page with the password.

    3) The ability to generate a password from the iPhone and store it. Although that might be more feasible once the SDK launches for real.

    Overall it's a great program. It's worth registering just to drag the giant key image to the lock image to register it! :p
     
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    Dimwhit

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    I'm not worried about backup. I'm trying to figure out how to sync it between two computers without .Mac. (And without exporting the data from one machine and importing it to another--that's not really syncing.)

    Here's a question--if I want to use this to go back to existing accounts and create a better password, does 1Password handle that well? Can you get it to remember a new password for the same login, or do you have to delete it and create a new one?
     
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    When I got 1Password, almost all my accounts had junky passwords. Things like "bird". Okay not that easy but you get the point. So I went an changed a good lot of them. Here is how I did it.

    I went to the site and logged in as normal. 1Password asks if you want to save the password and I told it "not right now". I then went to the change password page on the site and used 1Password to generate a 14 character password. I then copied the password and logged out of the site. I then logged back into the site with my username and new password. This time I said, "Yes remember it!". I then logged out and back in using 1Password to verify it got stored.

    Semi-lengthy process but you really only need to do it once per site. I haven't a clue what my MacRumors.com password is... good stuff!
     
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    clevin

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    ohh, care to elaborate? AFAIK, it does more or less same main function as roboform. what are the major differences? I can't tell any from the introduction of their website?

    $35 isn't cheap, for a stuff does what it does.
     
  20. macrumors regular

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    Yes that is an interesting question. Any takers?
    Yes it supports this. But if you want to be extra safe, just use a sticky note to paste your old password and new password to while you are working on it. Also, I've noticed that 1Password has a Password History Folder.
    Ummm, well have you read this thread entirely? It pretty much answers your questions. :confused:
     
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    CalBoy

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    Am I the only one who remembers passwords the old fashioned way and doesn't use any technological aid?

    I feel so old fashioned. :eek:

    Yet somehow I feel more secure that way, even if it really doesn't make a difference.
     
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    I got the MacHeist II bundle just as I was migrating from Netscape Navigator to another browser (for now I've ended up in Camino). And using 1password was just excellent because 1) I could switch from browser to browser and still have all my passwords in one place and 2) it allowed me to store multiple passwords on a single site in Camino (which is crucial e.g. for managing several websites off a few servers).

    It also allowed me to export all passwords and import them on my (temporary) office machine. If I keep that machine I might have to give that online syncing a try, though I have to say I'm quite sceptical at having all my passwords stored in one place online, no matter how well encrypted they might be... :eek:

    But, all in all, 1password is one of the best little 3rd-party applications/tools/utilities I've found, so far, and just as SilentPanda, 1password is the only MHII app I use on a daily basis.
     
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    clevin

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    only these? you sure these are the major difference you were talking about?

    if so, it should release a free version of some sort, there is nothing make it in a "different league" than roboform.
    http://www.roboform.com/features.html
     
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    As with every other thread I've seen you post in, you have interesting opinions. Whatever works for you, man....
     
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    whatever, u obviously don't respect each thread on their own merits. Im discussing each of the questions, not discussing about me or you. Thats not right attitude from the start.:p
     

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