well last night I came across this , the 1st benchmarks for the new Dualcore Athlon 64 X2 , comes in 4800+ (Dual 2.4ghz 1MB+1MB L2), 4600+(Dual 2.2ghz 1MB+1MB L2) , 4400+(Dual 2.2ghz 512k+512K L2) , 4200+(Dual 2.0ghz 512K+512K L2). Here are the Cinebench #'s http://www.elitebastards.com/#news9950 and here http://translate.google.com/transla...&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=/language_tools as you can see the 4800+ just massacared the super hyped Pentium EE 840 dual 3.2ghz w/HT and 1MB L2 per core. These number also come amazingly close to the Dual 2.5ghz G5's Cinebeanch score on barefeats http://www.barefeats.com/macvpc.html These Processor are expected to be on sale by Late June and are going 2 kick ass. can't wait till I see OC'd results. Apple had better come up with something Quick or else it will lose even more in the performance segment. If AMD sell's the 4600+ for Under $500 Apple and Intel will be screwed. as most people will just get it for the 1MB L2's and OC it up to 2.7-2.8-2.9ghz since thats what the new Venice core Athlon 64's seem to be hitting.