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2015 Formula 1 Thread
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and not 2016? does their contract run through next season? i thought it ended this season.
Yes I think that's quite likely. Hopefully it will close up the field a bit.
The guys on the broadcast makes it sound like 2016.
Either way, the rumor is Red Bull has already sent a letter to Renault informing them Red Bull plans to terminate their relationship. Before that happens, however, we'll have a better idea regarding Renault's F1 future as well, because there is talks they might buy Lotus.
Once again, this emphasizes how important Honda's success is for F1. The less engine options teams have, the more of a spec series F1 becomes. While seasoned fans continue to call McLaren Honda a failure, the current F1 car setup with the goofy power unit makes me think the learning curve isn't what it once was.
Vettel. What a heartbreaker
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Justin Wilson...? Hit in the head with debris at Pocono. Hope he is going to be ok. no news yet.
Not F1, but I sure hope he is okay. I was watching qualifying yesterday and watched a horrible wreck. IndyCar is just nuts.
Haven't seen the race yet...
So what's this about Rosberg gaining a second under the Virtual Safety Car? I saw he did around what, lap 22, and then Hamilton goes straight off the track to make it up? Okay, Rosberg could be penalized - but Lewis consistently shows he's a spoiled brat. It's not up to him to handle Rosberg stealing time under a safety car - Those things have no speedometers or clocks, so Hamilton obviously doing that deliberately so both Mercedes drivers should be penalized, yes? In my mind, Hamilton carries more blame than Rosberg in this one.
...and too bad there isn't a way for Pirelli to be penalized; they provide a faulty product, and then start throwing blame around. That's even worse than Hamilton's cheating when there's so many lives at stake.
So what's this about Rosberg gaining a second under the Virtual Safety Car? I saw he did around what, lap 22, and then Hamilton goes straight off the track to make it up? Okay, Rosberg could be penalized - but Lewis consistently shows he's a spoiled brat. It's not up to him to handle Rosberg stealing time under a safety car - Those things have no speedometers or clocks, so Hamilton obviously doing that deliberately so both Mercedes drivers should be penalized, yes? In my mind, Hamilton carries more blame than Rosberg in this one.
...and too bad there isn't a way for Pirelli to be penalized; they provide a faulty product, and then start throwing blame around. That's even worse than Hamilton's cheating when there's so many lives at stake.
I watched the race live but I've no idea what you are going on about Hamilton cheating.
Rosberg didn't go too fast during the Virtual Safety car as the stewards would have pulled him up and issued a penalty, it's more likely Hamilton was just a little bit too cautious keeping above the permitted minimum sector time limits. All Lewis did was ask his team how Nico had gained the second, there were no tantrums and definitely no cheating from him and nothing was mentioned about it after the race.
I can't say I see where Hamilton cheated, nor has a big deal been made out of anything related to him. Hamilton handled the race very well and was very calm from what I saw.
I suppose we'll have to see what Pirelli say about the Vettel incident. If pushing the tyres for a one stop strategy was beyond the advised criteria by Pirelli, it could be Ferrari that are penalised. The commentators were predicting it would be a huge gamble even before the tyre gave way so it'll be interesting to understand what advice Ferrari actually received.
I haven't seen the race yet but I caught a glimpse a lap or two after the VSC came off, and Hamilton deliberately cut a corner; the commentators even mentioned how he was taking his time back. If his teammate had done that same thing he'd have to pull off after the race and stare out to sea again. Must be me.
As far as the tire issue goes, yes teams take chances - but I find it dumb that anyone could suggest a team would pick up the blame when the tires obviously have a problem; If it was only Vettel there'd be a bit of balance needed, but happening to another driver as well when there's nowhere near the stress and wear putting the blame on one team is far fetched.
As you haven't seen the race let me help you out. Everyone was cutting that corner all through the race. The stewards let it slide.
As for the tyres, Ferrari tried to make a tyre go further than it should to be competitive. No one else tried to one stop it, and nobody else had a tyre problem (well apart from Williams but that was a different issue!)
A work colleague also tried to take his tyre beyond its usable life!
I've just rewatched the laps after the VSC and do you mean the time when he went over the kerb at the top of the hill after Eau Rouge?
That's the only thing I could see even close to what you are describing and when you watch the whole race you will see most of the drivers do that at least once. There's no way you could gain a full second over that kerb, more like a tenth or so at most and a few drivers even lost time there after the kerb sent them into oversteer.
Yeah...Vettel's tire failure was on Ferrari, not Pirelli. IIRC, he was 27 laps into those tires.
I have a feeling it was lap 28 as that was the BBC's prediction on it. The lap before Vettel was struggling big time in front of Grosjean and everybody expected him to come in. He played a risky game especially on a track with the longest lap distance. Ferrari need to take responsibility for that one, although history suggests they probably won't.
The guy above (Melrose) who hasn't watched the race but is quick to call Hamilton a cheat needs to watch every single car on the grid cut the corner at the top of Eau Rouge. Grosjean got a verbal warning about track limits over his radio and he is no cheat. Sounds more like s misinformed Hamilton bash gone pear shaped ^^^.
Though it should be noted that Pirelli's Paul Hembry was quoted as saying the Mediums should have been good for 40 in terms of degradation.
Definitely a fair point. Either way, 27 laps at Spa is stretching it. Maybe at COTA, but at Spa?
A tragedy has befallen the racing world, as Justin Wilson has succumbed to his injuries sustained during Sunday's IndyCar race. He is survived by his wife and two children. Before IndyCar, he drove for Minardi and Jaguar in F1.
Sad to wake up to the news about Justin Wilson. I remember his spell in F1 well. Another gone too soon RIP.
yes, of course it's not F1. anyone who would bring that is an .....
and now he's passed away. RIP
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That's not surprising. I was trying to think of where he'd even go. McLaren? Maybe if Button was leaving, but even then I would expect Magnussen to get his spot as he has been waiting.Hulkenberg is staying with Force India
I think thats a good move for him.Hulkenberg is staying with Force India
Nothing much is likely to change this season. You'd expect Williams would be looking to replace Massa sooner or later but right now I'd go for Alonso if they can afford him. It's wrong for a driver of his calibre to be making up the numbers.
There is uncertainty regarding Alonso's contract. McLaren says his contract is rock solid for three years.
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