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2GB RAM, Apple takes us for granted?

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marine0816

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I remember when Sony was dominate in 90s, then they began making sub standard products and selling it for outrageous prices(Hello LG, Samsung). I feel Apple, the 290 billion dollar company is following that playbook.. I mean 2GB of ram on an iPad PRO?, no touch screen on Macs? What is going on? How much money are they really saving from 2gb to 4gb? They're still selling 16gb iPhones... I will probably still buy the iPad Pro 9.7, but do I still have to worry about page refreshes in 2016?
 
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Yes I was thinking Apple takes us for granted more for price. £100 for processor bumps and cameras which for iOS never bump price up.

They always premium bump memory but the Air 2 64gb cost £479 the 32gb costs £20 more. This is crazy.

No entry price and cheap iPhones are saying if you have £400 to spend buy an old Apple product. Surely £400 is enough premium but they have sneeked up the price. If they drop the numbering for iPhones as rumoured and it's a pro and not a 7 I fear the retail price will be £600.

When Apple iPad sales have slowed how can £500 entry price encourage sales? No way will non Apple people pay this price. This could be the lowest sales iPad to date. I've hardly ever seen anybody with iPad pro outside other than in an Apple Store so I guess the same "above" premium pricing is putting people off.

iOS is closing into Mac book pricing which for many will be unaffordable. They can only squeeze people so much I genuinely don't see how a 9.7 inch iPad Air 3 basically is worth £100 more.

Disgusting pricing.
 
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To answer your OP, YES. They definitely take people for granted. I'm a huge Apple fanboy but even I can admit 2gb of ram for a "pro" device they're charging more for is a bunch of BS. That extra ram was in the iPad Pro 12.9 for a reason: To push development of professional grade apps. Now how is less ram going to help that mission? It won't. And I'm disappointed.

But then again, why SHOULDN'T they take people for granted. Look at this

marine0816 said:
.. I will probably still buy the iPad Pro 9.7, but do I still have to worry about page refreshes in 2016?
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Nobody is going to boycott Apple over this. People despite being disappointed will buy it. It's the great "do these pros outweigh these cons" scenario. For pretty much everybody, the pros will. Apple is smart and knows what they can get away with. They're here to make money first and foremost. I don't believe they're an evil company, in fact I believe they behave ethically in a lot of areas that make me respect them, but there are a few small things you look at and just kinda scratch your head
 
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Yes I was thinking Apple takes us for granted more for price. £100 for processor bumps and cameras which for iOS never bump price up.

They always premium bump memory but the Air 2 64gb cost £479 the 32gb costs £20 more. This is crazy.

No entry price and cheap iPhones are saying if you have £400 to spend buy an old Apple product. Surely £400 is enough premium but they have sneeked up the price. If they drop the numbering for iPhones as rumoured and it's a pro and not a 7 I fear the retail price will be £600.

When Apple iPad sales have slowed how can £500 entry price encourage sales? No way will non Apple people pay this price. This could be the lowest sales iPad to date. I've hardly ever seen anybody with iPad pro outside other than in an Apple Store so I guess the same "above" premium pricing is putting people off.

iOS is closing into Mac book pricing which for many will be unaffordable. They can only squeeze people so much I genuinely don't see how a 9.7 inch iPad Air 3 basically is worth £100 more.

Disgusting pricing.
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Completely agree!! Not to mention the 64gb Air 2 was £479, the new 32gb Pro is £499, and the jump to 128gb is a whopping £120! I was expecting £479 and £599. £620 for a 128gb, sub standard pro has pushed it too far.
 
Where are you seeing 2 gb of RAM. I read that the 9.7 has 4GB just like the larger iPad Pro ?
 
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Nobody is going to boycott Apple over this. People despite being disappointed will buy it. It's the great "do these pros outweigh these cons" scenario. For pretty much everybody, the pros will. Apple is smart and knows what they can get away with. They're here to make money first and foremost. I don't believe they're an evil company, in fact I believe they behave ethically in a lot of areas that make me respect them, but there are a few small things you look at and just kinda scratch your head
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I really wish android stepped their game up with their tablets.. This is why Apple is getting away with this
 
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To answer your OP, YES. They definitely take people for granted. I'm a huge Apple fanboy but even I can admit 2gb of ram for a "pro" device they're charging more for is a bunch of BS. That extra ram was in the iPad Pro 12.9 for a reason: To push development of professional grade apps. Now how is less ram going to help that mission? It won't. And I'm disappointed.

But then again, why SHOULDN'T they take people for granted. Look at this



Nobody is going to boycott Apple over this. People despite being disappointed will buy it. It's the great "do these pros outweigh these cons" scenario. For pretty much everybody, the pros will. Apple is smart and knows what they can get away with. They're here to make money first and foremost. I don't believe they're an evil company, in fact I believe they behave ethically in a lot of areas that make me respect them, but there are a few small things you look at and just kinda scratch your head
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When iPad sales are sluggish people won't boycott as such they will snub the £499 price tag for a device which is a tiny bit better than the air. Trust me day to day who takes photos with a iPad or uses a pencil? Apple have gave people more reasons to hold onto old iPads due to lack of innovation.
 
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When iPad sales are sluggish people won't boycott as such they will snub the £499 price tag for a device which is a tiny bit better than the air. Trust me day to day who takes photos with a iPad or uses a pencil? Apple have gave people more reasons to hold onto old iPads due to lack of innovation.
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But...but...if people hold onto their iPads for too long it's "sad" isn't it? I don't wanna make anyone sad, although I'm planning on holding out with my iPad Pro at least until the iPad Pro 3 or 4. Although I'm sure by then it'll be called something different
 
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Completely agree!! Not to mention the 64gb Air 2 was £479, the new 32gb Pro is £499, and the jump to 128gb is a whopping £120! I was expecting £479 and £599. £620 for a 128gb, sub standard pro has pushed it too far.
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Yet the camera price and processor has seen the SE come in cheaper than the 5c which used last years processors. Somebody really has to question Apple on this.

They have been known to premium price memory but never internals. How can SE internals see a price drop and Pro a £100 increase somebody explain?

With no Force touch here, no new lighting jack to remove headphones and no 4K I seriously think people should stay clear off this and wait for a real pro iPad and I believe that will be in October when they refresh the large Pro.
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But...but...if people hold onto their iPads for too long it's "sad" isn't it? I don't wanna make anyone sad, although I'm planning on holding out with my iPad Pro at least until the iPad Pro 3 or 4. Although I'm sure by then it'll be called something different
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But if they release an iPad pro 2 in October people will sell six month old tablets like the iPad 3-4 fiasco. I kept my iPad 3 and boycotted the 4 and enjoyed the Air 1 and 2 since then.
 
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But if they release an iPad pro 2 in October people will sell six month old tablets like the iPad 3-4 fiasco. I kept my iPad 3 and boycotted the 4 and enjoyed the Air 1 and 2 since then.
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I highly doubt an iPP 2 later this year in Oct.
 
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I highly doubt an iPP 2 later this year in Oct.
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But if they replace it with a mini 5 and pro larger one the 9.7 would sit out dated until March 2017. If they skip the update the larger iPads and mini one would have a longer cycle than a year like the air 2.

Rumours will no doubt give some indication over the next few months. But if they updated the mini it may eventually have a better round set of features than the 9.7 pro.
 
It's the other way around. We are taking all this for granted really. There is absolutely ZERO competition over on the other side. At least in tablet form. There is not one single tablet from any manufacturer that stacks up against my IPP. Not even the surface pro 4/surface book but those are more laptop than tablet.

For what I need to do at the moment, there is just no other choice. So is the iPad Pro 9.7" a joke? Hell no. The iPad Air 2 is fast and with an A9X even a bit down clocked is faster than the Air 2. Sure the ram would've been great at 4GB which would ensure longevity but then again that's how Apple makes you buy another iPad next year.

You guys need to know it's a business and yes it sucks but we are all taking this for granted. Imagine having to pay $599 for an android tablet. Dude, you guys have it great!

PS - I don't like the fact Apple has to make the iPad mini nearly 1 generation lagging behind the current iPads. This is their type of strategy and I am against that. I read from another user Apple should really make a BTO iPad. Let the user choose the processor, the RAM. This way I can overpay for an iPad all I want. Rather than have to be forced to pay what Apple sets. But then again this will go against the prime directive at Apple: always make the customer pay more!
 
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But if they replace it with a mini 5 and pro larger one the 9.7 would sit out dated until March 2017. If they skip the update the larger iPads and mini one would have a longer cycle than a year like the air 2.

Rumours will no doubt give some indication over the next few months. But if they updated the mini it may eventually have a better round set of features than the 9.7 pro.
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I think it's fair to say with all these announcements, Apple is all over the freaking place and the company we used to be able to predict with great accuracy, is doing whatever the heck they want. Logic be damned.

The smaller iPad Pro Could have been announced at the next iPad keynote in the fall. Same with the iPhone se being announced at the next iPhone keynote. While watch bands... Who gives a damn. Just update the store and people will pick up on it. 9.3 didn't even need to be talked about. So logically, this entire keynote seemed pretty damn pointless. If we use logic going forward, we're probably only going to disappoint ourselves
 
Ghost31 said:
I think it's fair to say with all these announcements, Apple is all over the freaking place and the company we used to be able to predict with great accuracy, is doing whatever the heck they want. Logic be damned.

The smaller iPad Pro Could have been announced at the next iPad keynote in the fall. Same with the iPhone se being announced at the next iPhone keynote. While watch bands... Who gives a damn. Just update the store and people will pick up on it. 9.3 didn't even need to be talked about. So logically, this entire keynote seemed pretty damn pointless. If we use logic going forward, we're probably only going to disappoint ourselves
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Yes they have been all over the place since the iPad 4 shock came around October. They rushed out a watch and that wasn't even released for months after the event.

An cheap iPhone being as a main event is a new first for Apple too.
 
I agree ; it's all about iPhone 7 or iPhone Pro this autumn. The next 9'7 iPad Pro iteration will most likely launch next spring
 
Ghost31 said:
I think it's fair to say with all these announcements, Apple is all over the freaking place and the company we used to be able to predict with great accuracy, is doing whatever the heck they want. Logic be damned.

The smaller iPad Pro Could have been announced at the next iPad keynote in the fall. Same with the iPhone se being announced at the next iPhone keynote. While watch bands... Who gives a damn. Just update the store and people will pick up on it. 9.3 didn't even need to be talked about. So logically, this entire keynote seemed pretty damn pointless. If we use logic going forward, we're probably only going to disappoint ourselves
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Regarding those watch bands - sheesh - nylon??? Dude, TIM COOK is behind that Apple Watch fiasco. It's not that great of a device and I have ZERO interest in buying it. At $299 it's $200 overpriced. But yet they keep pushing and pushing it because that would be major EGG on face for Tim.
 
Channan said:
I'm actually relieved that the Pro has only 2GB of RAM. Now I don't feel the need to upgrade from my iPad Air 2 at all and I will save hundreds of dollars.
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I don't understand. If it had had 4 GB, would that have somehow diminished the performance of your Air 2?
 
AliMacs said:
Regarding those watch bands - sheesh - nylon??? Dude, TIM COOK is behind that Apple Watch fiasco. It's not that great of a device and I have ZERO interest in buying it. At $299 it's $200 overpriced. But yet they keep pushing and pushing it because that would be major EGG on face for Tim.
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Agree and don't agree. Those bands look like some fisher price you crap that kids would wear on a cheap "pretend watch toy". How could Apple even put this out? I don't know. I haven't tried them in person maybe my opinion will change.

On the Apple Watch: I love mine. Use it everyday. When I leave home if I don't have it on, I feel naked.
 
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