Greetings from Arizona, My daughter just graduated from highschool .... top of her class !!! D-m! What parent doesn't appreciate that ?! <G> As a grad gift we gave her a chunk of cash ($1100+) to buy an iBook from MacMall. Being the frugal girl she is, she's decided to buy an older Mac and pocket the difference. She asked me to search for a new/discontinued Mac and gave me a list of specs. Was a Mac with this combination of specs even made. Is $700 a possibility ? If so, would someone suggest where I might purchase one online ? These are minimum specs (except the price): G3 or G4 iBook or Powerbook 128MB RAM 350Mhz OS-X compatible 5 GB hard drive cd/cdrw $700 I felt that she might do better getting a less expensive cdr model and get an external burner. Does that make sense ? Thanks, Frank p.s. Thanks to all who gave much good advice in reply to my dumb cdrw speed question a while back.