60% (UK) say Bush is a threat to World Peace

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  1. Pinto macrumors newbie

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  2. Dont Hurt Me macrumors 603

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    they are wrong they better start looking at the muslim population or at least those extemeist that are strapping bombs to themselves and cowardly bombing innocents like woman and children..cowards ! sad sad sad. the ones doing the killing is who they have to fear not the one's trying to stop it. 2,000 yrs whats new? same old ****!
     
  3. toontra macrumors 6502

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    Oh really. Thanks for putting us straight.

    Actually, we've heard more from Mr Bush than from any other US president in memory, so we've had plenty of opportunity to make up our own minds, thank you very much.
     
  4. Dont Hurt Me macrumors 603

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    your welcome what has come out of the arab community in 2000 yrs other then oil? war, war, killing, and more . what has made america great is the lets get along and we can all prosper, the mid east well??? 2000 years after jesus said love one another they still dont just get it. still fighting and killing and what do the children inherit but more of the same crap!
     
  5. wwworry macrumors regular

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    Why is that Bush supporters are so incoherent most of the time?
     
  6. Pinto thread starter macrumors newbie

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    you don't stop people strapping bombs to themselves, by interfering in their local politics, invading countries and developing new nuclear weapons.

    That sort of behavior tends to have the opposite effect.

    Do you think that the US is more or less liked thanks to your President's behavior?
     
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    when ya get a sec, please let me know how this is on topic.
     
  8. tazo macrumors 68040

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    I agree 100%

    Some of the only people left on this earth, killing people in the name of god.
     
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    Stop watching Fox News!

    I always swear to myself I won't get involved in P & W Discussions, but some truths need to come forth... I take it you get your info from Fox News?

    Is what you call the muslim population bombings any worse than the US daily bombings of Iraq since the first Gulf war; worse than the US embargo on Iraq that only resulted in the rich Iraqi getting richer and the poor kids dying of starvation? Is it worse the effect on kids of Agent Oringe defoliant used in Vietnam? Is it worst than the atrocities many US supported dictators inflicted on their civil populations? FYI, Saddam was put where he was by guess who? The US!

    You claim that in your country everyone is free to enjoy liberty and prosper. That is correct and I most aggree with you. What you don't see is that in order for you and your fellow Americans (as well as me and my fellow Europeans to a lesser extent) to prosper, many sufferings are indured by many people throughout the world. These people will include the children making Nike shoes in China for 2 cents an hour, the civilians bombed and slaughtered in Iraq to gain control over their Oil and to increase strategic US influence in the Middle East.

    I do not aggree with terrorism and am also deeply shocked at attacks like those upon the WTC. What shocks me even more though, is the blindness of the media in repsect to many other things that go on in the World. WTC was all over TV for days; why weren't constant US and UK bombings on Iraq and their lot of civilian casualties ever shown in the ten years or so since the "end" of the Gulf war?

    The question you need to ask yourself(selves) isn't how can you stop terrorism, but why are there terrorist attacks against you. I think one clear factor is the lousiest US foreign politics that we've seen for a long, long time.

    Before your critize 2000 years of Muslim (and Christian) Civilization, go open some history, political science and geopolitics books. Then you may make some educated statements as to if people thinking Bush is right or wrong.

    (retreats to deep underground bunker as he knows many people will not share his opinion; but hell, it's a free World ;))
     
  10. abdul macrumors member

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    extremists, being cowards. i may not favour the path they have taken, but anyone who has taken their life for something they believe in, or to make a point is not a coward in my eyes. for example you just try stabbing your arm...most likely you wont because you care for yourselve which is natural. they are taking their life and are fully aware, so therefore are a lot braver than you make out. the only way you may think of them as cowards is that they are taking their lifes and escaping the horrors of oppression.

    sorry 2000years of what? american imperialism (i dont think so), islamic wars? muslims oppressed? muslims killing innocent women and children? u make no f*cking sense. this is meant to be an educated forum, not a place for racist remarks, without any knowledge at all!!

    your welcome what has come out of the arab community in 2000 yrs other then oil? war, war, killing, and more .

    yeah what have the arabs given....uummm let me think....SCIENCE. do some ****in research before you talk crap. the arabs were the most medically advanced race on the planet before they were colonised. their ancient instruments can still be used today. they also were advanced in MATHS, including bringing the idea of algebra to europe. yes you may hate maths like me but without the arabs there wouldnt be a '0' so there goes digital and there goes our current numbering system.(indirectly computing thanks to advances in maths)...here comes roman numerals! Arabs also brough vast enchancement to engineering and waterworks which spain should still be greatful for!
    2000years....you are really one dumb f***, islam is not that old! only 1400 years! and for some odd reason being the first modern civilisation that openly allowed women to enter parliament and give them rights which Christian, jewish or hindu worlds didnt! it probably more backward now than under the Khalifah 1400years ago until colonisation.

    killing what killing are you talking about. far less killing went on in the arab world than in europe in the same time frame, or even last century.


    well getting back to the point of the thread, people in Britain do think he is stupid, well you have to admit he has said a lot of stupid things. every war he goes into isnt a sucess after winning it and we know when the propaganda machine is churning crap, unlike the americans where patriotism jsut gets in the way! there will be a protest and dont think we know what is happening in the world (cos we keep ourselves informed, i do anyway) and how to deal with it. Britain has been a terrorist target for a long time while the US gov allowed open fuinding for thoise terrorist organisations!
     
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    Well they are cowards and morons. They follow some fool that tells them that you will get rewards in heaven for killing. :rolleyes:


    extremists = sheep
     
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    ditto the above, once the rude words are editted out.

    We all have a lot to learn for each other's "civilizations"; I think the word culture is much more appropriate.

    To further discuss my opinions, I think that Don'tHurtMe's position (don't hate me for this, nothing personnal) is just as bad a terrorism. Bluntly critizing and despising other cultures without trying to understand their differences and actions is just as bad a setting a bomb. Kinda reminds me of National Socialism in Germany...
     
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    Let me think:rolleyes: The rest of the world hates Bush because he watches too many westerns.
     
  14. Pinto thread starter macrumors newbie

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    So giving your life to a cause you believe in (no matter how misguided) makes you a coward??

    Compare that to your average Yank bomber, who sits in absolute safety, inside a Destroyer, pushing a button that launches a cruise missile at a city full of civilians hundreds of miles away.

    Land of the Brave...whatever.
     
  15. leet1 macrumors 6502

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    Yes, it does.



    He launches that missle at an enemy, not civilians. He does not go into a building and blow up a bunch of people for "Allah"
    :rolleyes:
     
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    please hurry up and take that trip. your lack of sensitivity is embarrassing you.
     
  17. leet1 macrumors 6502

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    Embarrassing me? ha, no. :rolleyes:

    Start talking about the post, and quit posting about me ;)
     
  18. zimv20 macrumors 601

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    all right.

    would you agree that the american revolutionaries were cowards?
     
  19. leet1 macrumors 6502

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    No, but if your comparing them to extremists like the ones in the middle east, your extremely wrong.
     
  20. zimv20 macrumors 601

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    thank you for not even allowing me to formulate an argument. c.f. the quote i posted from twain.

    too bad the terrorists can't target the close-minded, eh?
     
  21. leet1 macrumors 6502

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    Yes, too bad, :rolleyes:
     
  22. zimv20 macrumors 601

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    yeah, good one

    let's try a 'back on topic'

    why do you think bush is so unpopular in the UK?
     
  23. Pinto thread starter macrumors newbie

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    His missile enters the building and blows up a "bunch of people" for him, while he reads the latest copy of Stars and Stripes.

    All in the Name of power, money and oil (America's Gods).

    It's people like you, Bush, Osma and Saddam who are the problems in this World.
     
  24. leet1 macrumors 6502

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    All in the name of freedom. If your talking about Iraq war being about money and oil, your dead wrong. Money? Ha, were loosing billions. Oil? no.


    You comparing me to Osama .....

    I'll hold back on commenting on that, as it would probably get me banned.
     
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    What about the Irish during the Easter rising?

    The Jews in UK-controlled Palestine?
     

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