A plea to the general populace: be considerate!

Discussion in 'Community' started by 18thTomorrow, Aug 3, 2004.

  1. macrumors 6502

    Apr 5, 2004
    The Alpha Quadrant
    This is a plea to everyone to show some more consideration for other people.

    I was thinking about this at work today. I clean banks and offices in the evenings so that I can make it through college with minimal amount of debt. (My goal is to have less than 5 grand in debt when I graduate.) And I am astounded by the lack of consideration some people show for others.

    For example: one of my duties is to empty every trashcan every night. Since I am totally responsible to clean 5 different buildings every night (no, I don't work with a partner.) I end up emptying 80+ trash cans every fricken' evening when the rest of the world has gone home and is enjoying themselves. Now, this wouldn't be so bad if people would only put their trash in the wastebasket...however, instead they just chuck it in the general vicinity. Now I realize that work can get very hectic, especially for bank tellers and the like, but is it so much to ask that they put the trash in the can that sits right next to their feet under their desk? Or at least pick up your trash at the end of the day? It makes my job last twice as long when I have to get on my hands and knees under every single desk and pick up 80 cans' worth of trash that's scattered on the floor.

    I'm young and spry, but some of the people who work at my company are Hispanics in their 40s and 50s, and I feel bad for them, having to bend over and pick up trash. Everyone deserves more dignity than that. Our jobs would be much less aggrivating and more rewarding if Janie the Bank Teller just thought for a moment about the little people who come in at night to clean up after her, while she's enjoying her evening.

    And door handles are there for a reason. Every night I have to wipe down both sides of the glass on 8 sets of double doors, and I'm astounded at the weird places fingerprints turn up. And you wouldn't believe how much grease your hands can leave behind. I didn't until I started this job. Who opens the door by placing their open palm in the very top corner of the door? I'm short--it takes some doing to reach that high! The weirdest thing was the time I found a full-length, bare footprint one one of my doors.

    Another thing: driving. My job also requires a bit of driving( 20 miles an evening) and I see some wacky stuff out there...my pet peeve is the people who know their lane is closing 1/4 mile away, yet they insist on racing you and then cutting you off at the very last minute as they lose their lane. Then there's the guy who is first in line at the red light, but takes 5-8 seconds to realize and react when it finally turns green.

    I feel better now that I've shared my angst with someone.
  2. macrumors Penryn


    Dec 27, 2002
    Location Location
    I agree with everything you said.

    People who live in my residence seem to make a huge mess out of anything. How can they take a messy shower? Seriously, what are they doing in there? And since they don't have to clean up the paper towels later on, they just throw it "towards" the rubbish bins. If they miss, then they miss.
    And of course, they don't mind if they throw some sand around (I live in Oz near the beach :D ), or cut their hair in the hallway, because they don't have to vacuum. They know someone will clean it up, just like they do every day. People don't treat their own rooms like that. Hmmm....wonder why? Is it because they have to clean it themselves?

    And ditto about the drivers who stay in a lane even though they know its closing in order to cut ahead later on in line while you do the right thing and wait like everyone else.

    People are idiots.
  3. macrumors 6502

    Nov 13, 2003
    Someone who is willing to work that hard for an education is destined to create their own success in life. The lessons that you are learning are priceless. Your statement about the dignity of your coworkers is something that more people need to think about - there is dignity in ANY job. I hope that as you move on in life toward the successes that you'll surely have, that you will probably create for yourself because of your obvious desire to work for your education, that you remember these lessons.
  4. macrumors regular

    Jul 26, 2004
    Sydney, Australia
    I feel for you. I used to work in McDonald's and was always put on night shift, combined with all my studies and what have you, it was really really difficult when people were sticking gum under the tables, sticking cups between chairs, leaving a mess of toilet paper all over the toilet....

    The pay was something like $AUS 5.91/ hour. I wasn't doing it for the money, obviously. I was doing it for the experience as I was 15 at the time.

    Maybe you could like, tell your boss to tell the employees to put their own damn rubbish into the damn bin sitting no more than two damn feet away. But I don't blame people for the driving one, where it takes them a while to react to the light turning green. I might do that too if I was dead tired after a night shift.
  5. Administrator

    Doctor Q

    Staff Member

    Sep 19, 2002
    Q Division, Los Angeles
    Ever look at the mess in a movie theater when you leave? How can a small crowd of people make such a mess while sitting still? It's just that people have gotten used to slopping their food around and throwing napkins and popcorn bags on the ground. Ever notice the cleaning people waiting to come in as you leave? They inherit your mess.

    I had a friend who worked at a theater, and after talking to him I realized how simple it is to carry my cup/box/bag/candywrapper/whatever out with me. Since then, they never have to clean up after me anymore. They probably don't notice the difference that one person makes, but ** I ** feel better.
  6. macrumors demi-god


    Jan 11, 2002
    Los Angeles
    I completely agree.

    I've worked at a couple of gas stations and Blockbusters and you wouldn't believe some of the people I've cleaned up after. I found empty cans and coke bottles just sitting on the shelves at Blockbuster (like it's that hard to go up to the counter and ask to throw something away) not to mention the dozens of movies per shift that we find on random shelves. People grab a movie, walk around, decide they don't want it and then just put it some where. I don't know how many times I've looked hi and low for a movie, which the computer says we have, and was never able to find it for a customer 'cause some lazy person just stuck it some where. Talk about wasteing other peoples' time.

    Don't even get me started on the mess people can leave in a public bathroom. :mad:

  7. macrumors 601


    Aug 19, 2003
    Manila - Nottingham - Philadelphia - Santa Barbar
    yeah i feel your pain

    i started work, and in my office theres a tiny trashcan just at my feet; it doesnt take much effort or aim to get your trash in there.

    lazy people just create more work for others.

    i do agree with the lag with the greenlight; honeslty be alert when you drive, being careless leads to accidents
  8. Guest


    May 24, 2003
    Obviously you're not a golfer.
    exactly why does it matter that they are Hispanic?
  9. macrumors G3

    Chip NoVaMac

    Dec 25, 2003
    Northern Virginia
    I think the point was that they are immigrants that have few other options for decent work because of language and job skills.

    It also goes to the point of how some people view those that provide basic, simple services. Just look here at the comments that people make about retail workers. We are lower than dirt to some. Not worthy of decent wages. Yet worthy to be the bashing board hen they have a bad day. They can't yell at their bosses, but they can yell at service workers.
  10. macrumors 6502a


    Jan 1, 2004
    It is 4 am and I'm too tired to read the whole thing but I started it. Having held several jobs of "low esteem" I can certainly emphathize with your plea. Yes, people should be more considerate. There was an PSA on the radio yesterday about the damage done to the environment when we don't put trash in the trash and recycling in the recycling!
  11. macrumors G3

    Chip NoVaMac

    Dec 25, 2003
    Northern Virginia
    I love an old PSA that Texas used. It showed a car going down a road in like West Texas. Stuff thrown out the window. The over sound was "military" chatter; "target in sight", "lock-on" or some such. Then you see a B-25 coming over the horizon. The tag, Don't Mess With Texas.

    If we could use that method for litter and traffic violators. :D
  12. macrumors 6502

    May 2, 2003
    chicago ex-toronto
    "my pet peeve is the people who know their lane is closing 1/4 mile away, yet they insist on racing you and then cutting you off at the very last minute as they lose their lane."
    oh man i hate that so much. i usually pull up so they cant get in.

    its a good thing trying to reduce your debt. i just came out of college with about a 15k debt and i dont even think that is too bad compared to others.
  13. macrumors 6502a


    Jul 17, 2004
    St. Louis
    A B-25? How old is this PSA? 60 years old?

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    Chip NoVaMac

    Dec 25, 2003
    Northern Virginia
    I mention to mention that the B-25 was from the Confederate AF. My bad.
  15. macrumors 68040


    Apr 3, 2003
    i feel for you. good luck with your pursuit of the education...

    is there any way you could ask your superviser to pass the words to the people working to be better about the trash situation? i realize you cannot just leave the trash because you might get in trouble. but technically, isn't your job picking up trash from the trash can and (hopefully) not babysitting those office workers to keep their place clean?

    good luck...
  16. macrumors member

    Jun 23, 2004
    Ditto! I used to work at a movie theater, and though I wasn't one of the cleaning people, I was AMAZED at the mess. I always used to wonder -- you're walking out of the theater anyway, is it that much more work to carry your empty soda cup!
  17. macrumors G3

    Chip NoVaMac

    Dec 25, 2003
    Northern Virginia
    You have a point. All the offices I worked in we were told that the cleaning staff, were there to help us, not be slaves. Keep your trash neat, was the statement.
  18. Retired


    Jul 9, 2000
    people are slobs

    i think men are really bad when it comes to bathrooms...i notice unisex bathrooms are far cleaner than bathrooms just for men...i think it's because women are more considerate

    people may miss trashcans, but it can't be as bad as men's bathrooms where people cannot aim straight...i mean, come on and aim for that urinal, it can't be that hard...no pun intended ;)
  19. macrumors 603


    Sep 3, 2003
    North Carolina
    I agree with much of what you've said, and I agree that in most cases, most of the examples you've brought up are probably examples of people being disrespectful, but I've come up with a couple counterexamples:

    --Coke on the shelf at Blockbuster:
    Perhaps a young family is in the store. Mom sets down her coke to chase after a toddler, then forgets about it

    --High fingerprints on glass door:
    Maybe someone was holding the door open for someone else

    Take home message: not everyone is doing bad things just to be mean. People who "miss" the trashcan are not trying to make your job harder; they're busy people. Yes, it would be better if they thought about who was cleaning up after them, but most people are generally good.
  20. macrumors G3

    Chip NoVaMac

    Dec 25, 2003
    Northern Virginia
    Nice thoughts, but the reality is that the Coke can in Blockbuster is probably from some that doesn't care. Someone will cleanup after them.

    Just because someone is busy at work, that they need to to have someone clean up after them. It is called respect. And there is so little of that in the US right now. Just look at the highways. We are too quick to make excuses. But slow in taking the blame.
  21. Retired


    Jul 9, 2000
    i think people first have to feel proud about their surroundings...if they have some ownership, they often treat their property and surroundings better

    take two nearby colleges...stanford (very expensive) and cal berkeley (fairly inexpensive) and see how the students/staff treat the campuses...stanford is so clean and i don't see the people litter there...there's no graffiti, even in most of the bathrooms...the tuition is high so people are not likely to defile a campus they are literally paying for...there is a sense of ownership and pride

    then drive a few miles to cal berkeley, largely paid for by the state and not the students...there is trash, graffiti, and some of the bathrooms are beyond description...the pub near telegraph avenue is a health risk...it's an equally good school academically, but since nobody is paying super high tuition and the bill is paid for by the state, there isn't the same pride people have for their campus...if i was a cleanup person, i would definitely take stanford ;)

    i think americans need to be taught from a very early age to have pride in their environment and have more consideration...i have been to tokyo and london and found much cleaner cities, trashwise/graffiti-wise, compared to los angeles, for example
  22. macrumors 603


    Feb 2, 2002
    at my office, if you miss the garbage can, the trash will stay there until you get it inside the bin... it's accepted that if they're going to empty your bin for you every night, you can at least make it easier. And no one wants them using their discretion as to what is trash and what just fell on the floor. i have four bins in my area, since i run a print shop, and i try to make sure bags won't be too heavy, or that it's overflowing too much to tie the bag up. I have to wish they'd attempt to put the bins back tho, rather than just tossing them into their corners... i suppose that time adds up, however.

    I have a glass desk at home, and whenever people use my computer or sit at the desk, they wind up leaving handprints *everywhere*. That gets on my nerves a lot. I mean, did you really have to jam your fingers between the glass and the keyboard tray to pull the chair in? So, i don't bother cleaning it when some people are coming over.

    I also hate when my friends ignore the guest hand towel on the sink, and wind up using a bathtowel or washcloths that are folded up. It's annoying to have to wash the entire guest bath towel set every time i have guests over. I just don't have time for it. The guest bath towels are there if my guest is taking a shower, not if they're just ignorant...

    ain't bitching fun? :)

  23. macrumors demi-god


    Jan 11, 2002
    Los Angeles

    No. Not really. :)

    It's more like: "Oh, I'm done w/my Coke. I don't want to carry an empty can around w/me so I'll set it on the shelf. Some else can throw it away for me."

    Re: Unrinals. Cleaning up after a sloppy #1 isn't bad. It's cleaning up after a sloppy #2 that made me want to kill people. I had a guy once crap everywhere in the bathroom *except* for the toilet. :mad:

  24. macrumors regular

    Jul 20, 2004
    Ames, IA/Eden Prairie, MN
    I'm not laughing at your misfortune, but the way you worded that has me giggling in my cube.
  25. macrumors 65816


    Jun 10, 2003
    Goodness yes, I hate them. Also I despise the people who cut into a lane that they can clearly see has cars parked in it not a block away JUST so they can cut in front of you. I do my best to cut the bastards off, every time.

    People aren't too busy, or too distracted, or too anything else to take proper care of their trash, or watch where they put their dirty fingers, or clean up after themselves in the bathroom. They're not even too lazy. A frightening number of people just don't even seem to know the difference any more.

    I lived with a friend--otherwise a great person--who had an unfortunate habit of not keeping his hands clean while cooking or eating, and he'd go ahead and open the cabinets/fridge/microwave or pick up the phone or what have you, leaving stickiness everywhere in his wake. I complained about it, but he just didn't notice. Didn't even notice the stickiness and residue. I don't know how he couldn't--he wasn't otherwise a slob--but he really, geniuinely didn't notice.

    I think that's the thing.....some people don't care, and some people can't even tell the difference. I don't know which is more depressing, honestly.

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