Aaron Boone = Wally Pipp

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  1. idea_hamster macrumors 65816

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    Seem that the Yankees are looking to acquire A-Rod to fill the spot at third base left by Boone's torn ACL.

    A-Rod Bronx Bound
     
  2. wdlove macrumors P6

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    The Red Sox have also been working hard to make a deal happen with A-Rod. So it all depends on who can make the deal happen first.
     
  3. idea_hamster thread starter macrumors 65816

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    I think that the Red Sox are out of the equation.

    The Red Sox were haggling with Texas over $5 million -- a fraction of what the Yankees cough up to their direct competitors through luxury taxes and revenue sharing.

    Consider this article by Mike Celizic who has been saying that some type of A-Rod trade has to happen so that the best young player doesn't rot at the bottom of the pile.

    I think the Sox are out of the mix. Not a day late, but more than just a dollar short....
     
  4. Koodauw macrumors 68040

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    This would be a killer deal. I think Boston needs to make this trade more than the Yankees do though. While Boone was the hero of the ALCS, he blinked in the bright lights of NY. His post seasons numbers were horrid (with the exception of one timely hit). While it is sad to see a hero leave town, I welcome this change. His 11th inning HR will live in infamousy either way. It would be great to see Jeter next to Arod. I hope it comes true. Go Yankees.
     
  5. idea_hamster thread starter macrumors 65816

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    I agree that Boone's HR was more likely fortune smiling on him than skill. I see it this way:

    Boone was not hitting well before that at bat and he went on to do substantially nothing of consequence at the plate for the rest of the post season. He didn't want to strike out looking, so he was up there swinging -- albeit wildly.

    Wakefield threw a knuckleball. Nobody knows where those are going.

    So you had a blind swinger hacking at a randomly moving pitch. About 90% of the time, that ball is an out. Maybe -- maybe -- 1% of the time it goes out.

    Bad luck. I'd be glad to have A-Rod -- I just wish we could get Clausson back!
     
  6. QCassidy352 macrumors G3

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    god, i hate the yankees so much. this totally sucks. :(
     
  7. jxyama macrumors 68040

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    me too...

    one good news is that a-rod will play third. it would be a far better defense if a-rod played ss and jeter played third. but yank's "pride" won't allow that.
     
  8. QCassidy352 macrumors G3

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    omg, it's really happened. A-rod is really a yankee.

    you're right though, it's an absolute joke that jeter will stay at ss. Oh well, yankees' loss.

    I also find the whole saga funny:

    A-rod: I want to go to Boston. No wait, I'll be happy here in Texas. No wait, Boston it is, this is great. Just kidding, I'm staying here with this team that is going in the right direction. And I'm the new captain. Ha, gotcha again - I'm going to NY. I hate texas so much that I'll give up the position in which I was about to get the most HRs ever and where I won two gold gloves to get out of here ASAP.

    Hicks: we plan on a long future with a-rod; there are no deals being discussed. Ok, we'll entertain offers. We love a-rod, but may trade him. Ok, we're trading him to Boston. Nope, guess not, but that's just as well, because we love a-rod and want to be "set" for next season. Haha, trading him to Boston after all. Nope, just kidding. We love him so much that we're making him our new captain. Fooled you again. We want to get rid of him so much that we're willing to trade him for almost nothing *and* pay part of his contract!

    New York: We win again. What's 70 million in luxury tax? George has that much under his couch cushions.

    Boston: #@$%#^&&^@!!!
     
  9. idea_hamster thread starter macrumors 65816

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    I agree that A-Rod should play short stop and, in the short term, Jeter should play third. However, since A-Rod is a better athelete, one could argue that he's more versatile and they'd be better off leaving Jeter to do what he knows.

    Ultimately, I think that they'd do best to fill third with a real third-base specialist and move Jeter to second.

    ...

    Or, Steinbrenner might just pick up another outstanding short stop during free agency next year and have the three of them fight it out for position ... you BoSox fans know what I'm talkin' about! ;)
     
  10. jasylonian macrumors regular

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    tom hicks is the dumbest man alive

    first, he offered A-Fraud $100M more than the next closest team and now he's paying the Yankers $67M to take him? dumbest trade, ever. if they were any good, maybe the curse of the bambino would carry over to the Rangers. unfortunately, the Rangers couldn't beat a dead mule. i have to admit, A-Fraud is the best player in baseball, and i bear him no ill will since i would've ripped hicks off, too. I just like calling him A-Fraud. however, tom hicks ruined baseball and i will never forgive him for that. A-Fraud will get his home runs as a shortstop because the Yankees will eventually realize that Derek Jeter can't field corn. He is the worst defensive shortstop in the league, but it's all overshadowed by one play he made against the A's who have an astonishing inability to hustle in the playoffs. here's to hoping that the Cubs sign Maddux instead of Boston getting irrational and trying to steal him for a hicksian (sic, i'm an econ grad student) contract.
     
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    I find QCassidy's comments very humourous. I don't understand while everyone thinks Alex should play short though. Alex may be better defensively, offensively, and any other way you want to look at it, but in baseball it is about chemistry and coming up big in when you need to. ( Thank You Mr. Boone) Jeter is a great post season hitter, and thats when it counts. Even if Alex puts up huge numbers, he will never mean as much to that organization as Jeter has. In another note, while I am glad to welcome one the best players in baseball to the team, it kills me that George has so much power over everyone. Anyways the key to NY is Joe Torre, who might not be in town much longer. Here is to the season, it will be an exciting one.
     
  12. Sayhey macrumors 68000

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    That lineup ought to be illegal. Sheffield and A-Rod in one off season? Heck, what three or four years ago Bernie Williams was the big stick in the batting order - what's he going to bat now - eighth? Here's hoping the weak kneed, fool of a commissioner Selig puts a stop to the deal.
     
  13. idea_hamster thread starter macrumors 65816

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    I highly doubt that Selig will stop this trade -- the chance of having the best player finally hit in a lineup that can offer some protection is too great.

    But if your looking for an opinion as to where the weak spots are,
    this article pretty much lays out
    where the rough spots might lie in the road this summer for the $200 million line up.
     
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    Im just glad the Yankees got him and not the Red Sox, Let the curse continue. Its great to see Sox fans cry when the Yankees out do them over and over. :D One more thing 1918 :p
     
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    GOD I LOVE BEING A NEW YORKER, The Return of The Bambino

    WOW , Vegas and LA have nothing n NY when it comes to excitement, 1st the Knicks get Marbury , Then We Brooklynites will get The Nets...Take That Jersey. Now A-ROD...we stick it to Boston again I just love it ...hahaha. sorry but i am a Sports nut and as a 3rd generation Yankee fan I Just have to Gloat.

    what's next Perdo Martinez in 2005, and Boston Fan's Just remember Nomar and Manny will not forget the Insult and embrassment the Red Sox have dealt them for putting them on the trading block like pawns, don't be suprised if one or both of them end up in Pinstripes sometime in the not 2 distant future just 2 Spite the Sox.

    All hail the most Glorious Dynasty in Sports "God's Favorate the Yankees" We've got our new Babe Ruth & Lou Gehrig Combo for the 21st Century.HAHAHA Long Live the Curse maybe in another 100yrs Bosox Fans. LOL
     
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    Re: GOD I LOVE BEING A NEW YORKER, The Return of The Bambino

    this kind of reaction from new yorkers is what i was hoping for. :p

    the expectations will be sky high and steinbrenner's gonna go berzerk unless yanks got a 10 game lead in june.

    i hope the thing about chemistry being important is true... i can't imagine sheffield and brown getting along. (though i guess they were ok as marlins.) and compared to their starting lineup, their bench is very, VERY thin. giambi/williams gets hurt (and they have been injury prone recently) and they are in trouble already...
     
  17. idea_hamster thread starter macrumors 65816

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    I agree that team chemistry is going to be a big deal. One of the big risks is that Steinbrenner has turned the Yankees into an even-higher-paid version of the Rangers (over-ego'ed individual performers who can't get it together to win). Only time will tell how Sheffield, Brown, Lofton and A-Rod (all of whom have gotten "Doesn't play well with other children" at their parent-teacher conferences) get on. Consider this article suggesting that Jeter and A-Rod won't coexist peacefully.

    The bench is a different matter. I agree that it's thin, but I think this is because the Yankees made a number of moves that turned out to be unnecessary. Miguel Cairo can play anywhere, but they also brought in Tony Clark and (rumored) Travis Lee, both at 1B. And they've loaded up Mike Lamb, Tyler Houston and (um..ok) Homer Bush to see who worked out at 3B.

    I think Wilson and Cairo will make the team. Most likely Clark, Houston, Lamb and Bush will be let go (possibly just released -- recall Chris Widger's unceremonious departure). That will make room for better bench players.

    I think Steinbrenner wanted to put together a dominating starting line-up and sort out the bench later. That, he has done.

    The open question is whether injuries (a possibility since the Yanks are all pretty long in the tooth) will make this a bad plan. Risk and reward.
     
  18. jasylonian macrumors regular

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    i just don't see mike lamb leaving the yanks after the yanks traded for him... i think they're going to trade for a stud 2B and i will weep.
     
  19. QCassidy352 macrumors G3

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    Re: GOD I LOVE BEING A NEW YORKER, The Return of The Bambino

    um, ok, so a-rod is ruth, and who's gehrig? Maybe you mean Sheffield... 'cause I know you can't be talking about Jeter.

    by the way, new york fans, how are the jets and the giants doing? :p (Boston sports titles in the past 3 years: 2. New York sports titles in the past 3 years: 0. hehehe)
     
  20. idea_hamster thread starter macrumors 65816

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    I can't see Lamb lasting through May. He was brought in as an emergency solution to the Boone issue. He's an average bat and, frankly, an aggregious liability in the field -- recall that he lost his starting spot because of defensive errors. Not the kind of guy that lasts in NY.

    As for a stud 2B, they may get one, but consider that they've dealt alot of their trade bait (think Johnson), so they may have to wait for a free agent. Nobody -- nobody -- is ever looking to do the Yankees a favor during the season with a trade that would fill an acknowledged weakness.

    (a) The Pats aren't Boston's -- they're as much a Vermont team as a Mass. team.
    (b) Football stinks.
    ;)
     
  21. idea_hamster thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Remember this?

    Yankees Ensure 2003 Pennant by Signing Every Player in Baseball

    "The mass signing, extravagant even by Yankees standards, caused the Bronx Bombers' payroll to skyrocket from a former league high of $149 million to $5.6 billion. Cashman noted that much of that figure is tied up in bonuses to be paid out to pitcher Tom Glavine, who at 37 will almost certainly not play out the entirety of his 15-year contract.

    Baseball commissioner Bud Selig approved the signing, noting that the other 29 major-league teams received ample financial compensation.

    "I see no reason why a small-market team like the Twins or Expos can't continue to remain competitive, just because it lacks players," Selig said. "The league was due for contraction, anyway."

    :p
     
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    Re: Re: GOD I LOVE BEING A NEW YORKER, The Return of The Bambino

    I agree, we should be very proud of our Patriots. Sports seem to go in cycles. In the 80's the Celtics were a real power house. The Bruins have also had there periods. The Red Sox really enjoy the phrase. "wait till next year."
     
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    Now that is funny! It's funny because it is not that far off from the truth.

    I look at this lineup and, while I don't see Ruth and Gehrig, I do see an incredibly powerful batting order. We will see if the starting pitching and defense holds up. Also who is the lead off hitter in this collection of sluggers - Kenny Lofton? If he holds up and has anywhere near a halfway decent season I will be totally surprised. Two Hundred MILLION dollars in payroll? Unbelievable. I hope it buys Steinbrenner a second place finish behind a solid pitching and well balanced Red Sox team. I remember a few Texas teams that tried to win this way and failed miserably. I wish the Yanks have a similar fate.
     
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    Hey, Mr. Soze -- are you from east or west of the Green Mountains? I want to know how that should sound in my head on openning day.... ;)
     

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