About upgrading to 10.4

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  1. mooshoo macrumors regular

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    Newbie here.

    I've been hearing about the new Mac OS 10.4 coming out soon. My question is:

    Is this a situation like a PC user when you buy, say, Windows 2000, and wannt to upgrade to Windows 2000 Professional? I mean do you have to actually pay for the upgrade?

    The reason I'm asking is because I just bought my PBG4 about 2 months ago, and although everything's updated to the current version of the OS, do you think it's neccesary to upgrade to 10.4, whenever it comes out? What are the benefits of the new system? Again, I'm still pretty new to the mac world, so please go easy on the technical terms! ;)
     
  2. szark macrumors 68030

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    Actually, the 10.x upgrades are usually more comparable to a NT4 --> 2000, or 2000 --> XP upgrade. While we won't know for certain until Steve announces it, most likely it will be a $129 cost to upgrade.

    It's never necessary to upgrade your operating system, unless the new OS has features that you feel you absolutely need.

    As far as new features of 10.4, none of us will know until the WWDC (WorldWide Developer's Conference) Keynote on June 28th.
     
  3. JOD8FY macrumors 6502a

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    Unlike Microsoft, Apple usually updates their operating system annually. Usually there are significant improvements, so it would be more like uprading from Windows 2000 to Windows XP. Apple creates new OS's in tenths (10.1, 10.2, 10.3, 10.4...) and updates each OS in hundreths (10.3.1, 10.3.2, 10.3.3...). Like I said, there are usually significant updates, so it would, in my eyes, be worth it to update, but you can decide for yourself. I think Panther costed $130 to upgrade, so that'll probably be the price of Tiger. Hope this helps.

    JOD8FY
     
  4. titaniumducky macrumors 6502a

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    You don't HAVE to. However, these are major upgrades. "OS X 10." is like "Windows." "3" or "4" is like "2000" or "XP." I know that can be confusing. However, it's up to you. Look at the new features when they tell us more about it. If you want the new features, buy it. If not, don't. You won't be at a disadvantage if you don't buy the new version. There are plenty of happy mac users still using Jaguar.
     
  5. 7on macrumors 601

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    There are plenty of happy mac users still using OS9!
     
  6. mooshoo thread starter macrumors regular

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    Thanks for the replies. So what have I been doing when I click on the Apple icon, Update Software? Some times I get free updates. Will this feature go away when the new OS comes out?
     
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  8. szark macrumors 68030

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    Those updates (generally 10.x.x updates) are like Windows service packs and security patches, and should always be free.
     
  9. RBMaraman macrumors 65816

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    When you run software update, you are downloading the free MINOR OS updates.

    10.3 is the current OS. Any .number after 10.3 (ie 10.3.3 (notice the extra .3)) is a minor update. 10.4 "Tiger" will be a completely new OS. Once a new OS comes out, Apple stops updating old OS's. Software update will still grab new software for you, as long as it's compatible with 10.3. But, all new OS updates will require OS 10.4. You'll still get security updates if you don't upgrade (I believe anyway).
     
  10. cjc343 macrumors 6502

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    software update also updates other Apple software and firmware. Updates include: iLife updates, Airport updates (for both the admin utility, the Base Station, and the card, if you have one), bluetooth updates (both software and firmware), battery updates for laptops, and other Apple related updates.


    There have been rumors that Apple will allow other companies to provide updates through software update in future releases, and also rumors about buying things in digital format via software update.
     
  11. TEG macrumors 604

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    Yes, you will have to pay for 10.4 (Tiger). Usually a Mac OS CD costs $129 and there are no upgrade cds, all cds sold are full versions. Also, if you are a student or teacher, you qualify for Apple discounts, between 3% and 15% of hardware and software, however, in the case of OS X they usually drop half the price (I paid $59.99 for Jag, and $64.99 for Panther). And in general it is a good idea to upgrade, as the new version will usually make your system faster and more reliable.

    Welcome to the fold, and Hang on.

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  12. cjc343 macrumors 6502

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    TEG's comment about "welcome to the fold" made me think of something....


    Mooshoo: If you want any help setting up F@H (Folding@Home) on your computer(s) the forum is happy to help... remember, by running F@H you are contributing to finding cures for various diseases.

    [/shameless F@H promotion]
     
  13. aswitcher macrumors 603

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    You may want to hold off a month when Tiger is released to make sure all the kinks are sorted out. Panther had a couple of nasty bugs in the first month and a few people lost work or were stuffed around.
     
  14. mooshoo thread starter macrumors regular

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    :p
    Ok thanks guys for all the help. I'm really enjoying my PB. Just wondering why I didn't make the switch earlier.
     
  15. tom.96 macrumors regular

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    I'm one of them! Although I know I would get a better experience with a more modern OS like panther, OS9 does everything I want well. I know people using much older versions of the Mac OS than 9 and they are quite happy. I suppose whether you upgrage depends on how up to date you like to be and what you want to do with the machine.
     
  16. benixau macrumors 65816

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    he he he
    guess the people decided to ban smoking eh? - he he he
     
  17. jeffy.dee-lux macrumors 6502a

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    yeah, i hear ya.... i always love seeing adds in magazines and on tv and stuff where they show you a web page or something like that, and you can tell its a mac. half the time though, it looks like all these graphic design people are still on os9 or maybe even worse... i just saw an add in a magazine where the web browser was internet explorer, pre version 5. that's old school.

    Yeah, i'm on 10.2, plan on doing the every second upgrade thing, as in, i'm waiting for 10.4 instead of going for 10.3. This is probably partially out of spite or anger or frustration or something, as i bought 10.2 sometime around October 2nd, i believe panther was officially announced and offered the free upgrade to anyone who bought jaguar about a week later than that. And that's how Jeff became a member of macrumors. The end.
     
  18. BornAgainMac macrumors 603

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    I used Mac OS X since 10.0 and upgraded with every point release. But you really can upgrade every 2 years if you want. I spend less overall on Mac software in general vs Windows so I don't mind the $129 a year. It does a lot right out of the box (C compiler, Java, developer tools, web server, perl, iApps, free commerical software pre-installed on new machines, etc...) and good commerical quality shareware is within reach from a pull down menu. I have purchased more shareware on the Mac than I ever did for Windows. Good products for a fraction of the price in a store. So I have more money left over for O/S upgrades.

    I am happier in the Mac world.
     

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