Acura TL vs. Infiniti G35

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  1. craigdawg macrumors 6502

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    I'm considering both as my next car. Anyone out there who's driven both?

    Some questions I have:

    1. RWD vs. FWD - I've never owned an RWD vehicle. Am I missing anything?
    2. Infiniti build quality - Is it up to par with Acura?
    3. Reliability - I've owned a Honda in the past so I'm comfortable with Acura. But Nissan/Infiniti?

    Thanx!
     
  2. krimson macrumors 65816

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    i've driven both, and personally i like the G35 coupe (Haven't driven a sedan, all my friends have coupes) more than the TL.
    Both are very well built, though i think the G35 seems to be a bit more solid, and the body panel tolerance is a tab better than the Acura.

    If you're considering modifying it at all, NISMO does have parts available, and wont void your warranty if installed by the dealer.

    Maintainence will be similar, but i think parts for the Acura may be higher.

    If you go into the snow, FWD is better than RWD.
     
  3. jiggie2g macrumors 6502

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    Well If i had to make the Choice Myself I would go for the TL. you just get much more car for your money and the TL is Fully Loaded Spec for Spec is like $2-3K less. Fully loaded it's like $35,000 thats a steal.

    Acura TL is 270 HP ,you get DVD Audio 5.1 , Navigation, Bluetooth Speaker Phone Built in the Dash. Much more room inside then the G35, plus better overall interior Quality. they boith are hot cars and the TL come with front Brembo Brakes if you get it w/ Manual Transmission.

    Infiniti G35 Sedan is like a Beefed up Altima as far as Size and features. The Nissan Maxima would be a Much Better Comparision to the TL as far as Price and features are concerned. The TL just out Classes the G35 Sedan in every way. Honestly I am really considering buying a TL myself. the Maxima Would be my 2nd choice(my cousin has a Max 2003).

    So i Recommend the TL pound for pound it's the Best Luxuarycar in the $30-40K range , just like the Nissan Murano is the Best SUV in that same Price range.

    P.S. If you were Talking About the G35 Coupe/350Z then I would say it's over priced and that the Mazda RX-8 is a much better pick for less money.
     
  4. blue&whiteman macrumors 65816

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    why either? get a minimal car that burns little fuel like a hatchback. better yet, take the bus or subway!

    i'm a tree hugger as you can tell. cars are evil in many ways yet people don't see it. they are blind to the facts. they don't see how a larger car burns more fuel and that its wrong to do that just for the sake of you being totally happy with your car.

    people can't see how things like that are wrong. plus north american society anyway places way too much importance on having a license.

    I am almost 36 and have never owned a car. I work full time and have for years. it can be done...

    sorry to preach but someone has to keep it real :)

    buddha is all to I
     
  5. jiggie2g macrumors 6502

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    You can't compare a G35 Coupe to the Acura TL sedan it's totally Apples and Oranges. Sports Coupe vs. Luxury Sedan, those cars serve 2 totally different purposes. The reason why you felt the difference in support is because the G35 is made for Speed not Luxuary (stiffer chasis and shocks/springs but at the expense of overall comfort) it's just a Souped up 4 seat Nissan 350Z. a hot car but at $38k with nav it's wayy over priced.

    Nismo Parts, if he wants to mod then he should not be looking at a TL , and would just be better off with a 350Z, RX-8 ,Honda S2000 and the Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution(my Bitch). as they cost much less and moding them would be simpler.

    My Picks, TL for Luxuary , RX-8 for Sport (4-seater , Suiside doors, Killer Looks ,Superb handling and Navigation , a moden day Bat Mobile for only $33K)
     
  6. PalmHarborTchr macrumors member

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    G-35???

    I used to sell the G35 coupe and sedan...there is a difference.

    The coupe will always have a better resale value because they are built
    in much, much smaller numbers than the G 35 sedan or the Acura.
    If you weigh more than 160lbs forget the coupe.....the seats are
    designed for people with a small butt, seriously, the sedan had different
    read wider seats. The sedan is quieter......both G 35 models are rear
    wheel drive best for CA, AZ, TX, FL,NM...definately NOT for places
    where there is snow........too much torque, too light. Infinity has sold
    fewer cars than Acura so it will be easier to get in for service and most
    Infinity dealers will give you a free rental if you make an appt. in advance.
    I doubt if Acura does that. I saw very few G 35's in needing repairs.
    The Acura is sold as a Honda in Europe.
     
  7. krimson macrumors 65816

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    i wasn't comparing them directly.. well, i wasn't trying to.. because those were the two that I did drive, that's all i could draw on. Since he really didn't specify coupe or sedan, im assuming sedan.

    The reason i mention NISMO is because it doesn't void warranties, like most of the mods on my Acura has.

    And the Evo shouldn't need to be modded too much anyways :)
     
  8. iJon macrumors 604

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    one thing to consider, are we comparing both 2004 models or are you looking at an older 2003 tl type s or a regular one. i use to have a tl type s. i loved it just cause i loved my acura legend before it so much. it such a nice car, extremely fast stock, very roomy and comfy. the new tl's are just that much better although i havent driven one. g35's are extremely nice too but i cant give a fair comparison, mine would just be biased. but as far as looks i like the tl better. as far as reliabilty i am going to assume acura will beat our infinty, but im no car specialist so i go with the statistics.

    iJon
     
  9. craigdawg thread starter macrumors 6502

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    No worries...I love driving though!

    Eight words: Highway 17 between Los Gatos & Santa Cruz

    Despite the tighter performance and higher resale of the coupe, I would get a sedan because I'm the de facto parental limousine service when I go visit mom and dad.
     
  10. taeclee99 macrumors 6502a

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    I am also considering getting a new car. My main choices are the g35 coupe, or the BMW Z4 roadster. The Acura TL is my third choice. Anyone know how the BMW Z4 compares with the g35 coupe? I am leaning towards the g35 coupe at the moment but the situation is fluid at the moment.
     
  11. RBMaraman macrumors 65816

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    Infinities are nothing more than glorified, overpriced Nissan's. They look like crap, they drive like crap, and they have a horrible track record.

    The Acura TL is a beautiful car. My mom had a hard time deciding between a BMW and the TL. Ultimately, she chose the BMW because she got an amazing deal. But, I've heard her say many many times that she wishes she would have gotten the TL. My dad hates sedans (He LOVES SUV's), but he said that the Acura TL is so nice, it makes him want to drive a sedan.

    I haven't driven the G35, but I have driven the TL. I know the track record of Acura, and they always have excellent cars and excellent service. I also know the track record of Infinity, and the have mediocre cars and terrible service.

    I'd say go for the TL.
     
  12. MrMacMan macrumors 604

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    Your post is crap.


    I have friends who both have each car.

    You have no idea what the hell you are talking about.
    You almost base your whole idea that the car looks better... which is all your own viewpoint.


    The G35 4-door is a very good car, it has kick and handles very well.
    I have heard the Coup is a little small...

    The TL doesn't have so much of a kick, but has great reliability.

    To the contrary my TL friend has had engine problems... and my G35 friend has had no problems...
     
  13. iJon macrumors 604

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    i think speed has nothing to do with it. both these cars are almost equally as fast that if they were both to race its going to come down to how well the driver is, simple as that. the acura has vtec and 10 more hp. it has its kick at it keeps on going into the lower 100's and still pulls. i never raced much, but when i did the little rice civics and preludes would usually beat me off the line but once i got to 80 i just waved by as i kept pulling. its such a smooth ride too. i went 140 on the bypass with mine and it was smooth as hell. so speed is not an issue, its the driver with these cars. as for reliability, if we go with your friends yes the acura would be bad, if we go with statistics the acura will be better.

    iJon
     
  14. Spyharpy macrumors member

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    I'm a big fan of Honda and never owned a Nissan before but friends of mine do and the reliability is just as good as Honda. If I had to choose between the two, I'd go for the G35 Coupe since it's RWD and looks much nicer but that's my opinion.

    Even though I haven't driven either, I've read a lot about them a lot. The magazine editors like both cars but pushing 260+ horsepower through the front wheels is reaching the limits of the FWD design. Three different editors that tested the TL 6-speed said the car exhibited lots of torque steer even up into 3rd gear! They said the car was begging for RWD and stated that the automatic tranny is better for this car. Tom Elliott of Honda acknowledged that stuffing more horsepower into a FWD car may not be possible so going to RWD is the logical step.

    Everyone has different tastes and needs when purchasing a car. You should test drive each car extensively and choose the car that best suits your needs and one that you'll be happy with for many miles.
     
  15. jeffy.dee-lux macrumors 6502a

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    May's motor trend has a comparisson of the g35 sedan, tl, cts, and saab 9-3 (i think anyways, i still don't know my saabs..). i haven't read it yet, but overall, they ranked the g35 1st, cts 2nd, and tl 3rd. But like i said, i haven't read it so i have no clue why they ranked this way... anyways, i generally trust the guys who spend their entire lives driving cars, but you should try to read that article next time your at the grocery store or something.
    about the rwd vs fwd thing, fwd is good for snow (depending on the weight distribution of your car), but so is awd. get a g35x. just came out this year. unless this is another one of those sweet canada only models, like the jaguar x-type wagon, the echo hatchback, and oh baby, smart cars, who needs your smelly suvs...
    in general though, rwd is better for getting an even weight distribution, front to back. Just about anything that's built to go fast goes with rwd. I'll bet this tl is one of the fastest production fwd cars on the road.
    Both these cars are really sweet though, i can see why you're having trouble deciding. Acura really raised the bar, adding a lot of features and basically making the type s the standard model. I just hope they bring back the cl, i always thought the 3.2 cl type s was one of the nicest looking cars, it looked so much nicer in two door format. i'd love to see how they'd treat a 2 door version of this tl.

    anyways, i agree with whoever that was who suggested taking the bus or biking. Just think of the cash you could save... enough to cover a bus pass every month (couldn't gas prices cover this expense?), a really sweet cd player, oh right, sorry, macforum... i mean.. ipod... with really nice head phones. maybe one of those gameboys. or say a sweet sweet bike. that's where my money goes. For about 1000 dollars, my bike is a really sweet ride (although its quite a bit of overkill for city commuting...) while the someone who spends the same money on a car ain't gonna have that much fun. Or if you're lazy they've got these bikes that basically have a hybrid drive system, charges up a battery when you're coasting or braking and then turns a motor to help you out when you need it.
    just think of everything you could do with 35 grand or whatever it is. is a car really worth that much?

    and don't get me started on the fact that by choosing to drive a car instead of riding a bike or a bus, you're putting crap into the air that doesn't need to be there and that i have to breathe, cause the thought of that really pisses me off. if the pollution you make could follow you around wherever you go, then it'd be fine with me, but it doesn't work that way, so keep in mind that such choices affect everyone you share this planet with.
    And don't brush this off as preachy hippy crap, think about it, it makes sense. just imagine yourself in a big pool with a bunch of stupid kids. how do you feel if they all start pissing? they all think its such a big pool, a little bit of piss wont matter...
     
  16. jtkellertx macrumors member

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    Hard Choice

    But the G35 is based on the R35 Nissan Skyline...which in a way is a good thing...it's a relative of the R34 Nissan Skyline (Paul Walker's First Car in 2 Fast 2 Furious). One thing is that the G35 doesn't have the RB26DETT engine and AWD. The 350z is based on the Infiniti G35 Coupe...not the other way around. I recommend Acura over Infiniti...for reliablity. If you are going G35 Coupe....I would go for the 350z. If you aren't going for a luxury car...Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII or VII (I heard VII is better). You just give up the luxurious features. The main thing is how old are you....Acura/Honda > 18-30 year old .....Infiniti/Nissan > 31-45 year old......Lexus/Toyota >46-70 year old.
    Over all I would get some form of a Japanese Branded Car (Mazda kinda counts....they are owned by Ford now). I heard this on the radio....Jap/Korean(Brand) cars 10 out of 100 had probs......Euro Cars 20 out of 100 had probs......American Cars.......12 out of 100 had problems.
    My opinions are somewhat biased my dad has owned 3 Nissans..but I went for Acura :) ....but from what he has learned Nissan cuts prices by a cheap manufacturing process.
     
  17. krimson macrumors 65816

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    kind of like how Acura's are nothing more the glorified, overpriced Honda's? :rolleyes:
     
  18. RBMaraman macrumors 65816

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    But at least Acura's don't look exactly like Honda's with the emblem changed. Kinda like how a Mercury is a Ford with the emblem changed.
     
  19. RBMaraman macrumors 65816

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    My post is crap? Well if my post is crap, then yours is as well. Your post is filled with opinion just as much as mine, maybe more!

    Yes, my post was infussed with my own opinion. The fact is, everyone has their own opinion about cars! Someone shouldn't come to a form posting about what car they should get asking for opinions. Go drive it for yourself and decide! I'm not just going to buy a car because 5 people told me its great. I might buy it only to find that the performance is underpar, the seat may have horrible lumbar support, and the transmission might be bad.

    I hate Infinities. I also hate Saab's. I despise any product made by Ford. Don't even get me started on how crappy I think Kia's, Daewoo's, and Saturn's are. Oh, and Chrysler sucks as well. Do I care that other people think I'm stupid because I don't like these cars? No. I'd rather drive a car that I think is great.
     
  20. brogers macrumors regular

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    I recently drove both the new TL and the G35 sedan. I also drove the 04 Maxima, Chrysler 300M Special Edition, Toyota Camery. Could not make up my mind...although I was leaning toward the TL. Then by chance I drove the 04 Honda Accord Sedan V6 loaded. I bought it right then and there. For the money it is the all around best. XM Salelite standard on that model, six disk in dash CD changer, seat heaters...all the bells for under 30 grand. Very quick 240 horses and rides smoother than many of the others.

    I guess I just would rather have the Honda/Acura. The G35 seemed a little too "Altima like" for me.

    BR
     
  21. craigdawg thread starter macrumors 6502

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    It's interesting that Acura doesn't suffer from being too "Honda-like" but Infiniti does from being too "Nissan-like". Mindshare counts for something don't it?
     
  22. iJon macrumors 604

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    yes, the new accords are extremly nice. before the new tl came out they had two tl's. acura just squeezed 10 more hp out of the type s, and made a whole new car. then they made the low end tl the high end accord. they are both impressive cars. i love the tl's so much and ive decided that when i get older i will buy the nicest tl they have for driving around town and then the nicest liberty or grand cherokee for offroading and camping and stuff, but thats a long ways away.

    iJon
     
  23. krimson macrumors 65816

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    So you're saying that the TL doesn't look anything like the Euro Accord, and are more different in styling than the G35 Coupe and the 350Z??

    how bout the CL being a more round Accord Coupe?

    edit: or even the $80k NSX having the interior comparable to the Civic? :rolleyes:
     
  24. RBMaraman macrumors 65816

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    In my opinion, yes. Your entitled to your opinion, though.

    I don't know why we're arguing about this. I happen to like both Honda and Acura. I happen to hate Infinity (and Audi as well. Why in the hell would anyone pay the price for an A8 or A6 when they can get a Passat for a TON cheaper?!?). PERSONALLY, I think Infinities look exactly like Nissans. PERSONALLY, I think Honda's and Acura's don't look exactly alike.
     

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