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jer446

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Is it ok if you leave an imac always in sleep mode? Also, on an imac, does it matter which way you put in the disk into a slot drive? When you minimize things, like a webpage, you can minimize many things like on windows right?
 

mkrishnan

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Jan 9, 2004
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jer446 said:
Is it ok if you leave an imac always in sleep mode? Also, on an imac, does it matter which way you put in the disk into a slot drive? When you minimize things, like a webpage, you can minimize many things like on windows right?

Yes, okay to use sleep pretty much all the time instead of shutting down.

On the slot-load drive, I'm pretty sure you have to put in the disk right-side up (which I think means the label side faces you on the G5).

Yes, you can minimize many things. There are two different things which are similar to minimize on Windows. One is to minimize (apple-M or the yellow ball). The other is to hide (usually apple-H). The big difference is that if you minimize, it will show up on the dock, by the trashcan, but when you apple-tab or apple-tilde through the open apps / windows, you will *not* see that application. Whereas if you hide it, it will come back up when you Apple-Tab to it. But minimize as much as you want, with the caveat that those programs will still be consuming some system resources (although the system is pretty good at moving them into virtual memory and not serving them much cycle time).
 

MontyZ

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Jan 7, 2005
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Since OSX, I now use Sleep mode when leaving the computer at the end of the day instead of powering it down. This never worked for me on OS9, but, has worked flawlessly for me in OSX. I only power down if I'm going on vacation or need to restart after an update. It's great having immediate access to your computer when you sit down in front of it instead of having to wait for it to power up each time.
 

TreeHugger

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MontyZ said:
Since OSX, I now use Sleep mode when leaving the computer at the end of the day instead of powering it down. This never worked for me on OS9, but, has worked flawlessly for me in OSX. I only power down if I'm going on vacation or need to restart after an update. It's great having immediate access to your computer when you sit down in front of it instead of having to wait for it to power up each time.

yup. same here. but sometimes I restart for the fun of it. It's an old windows habit ;)
 

MontyZ

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TreeHugger said:
yup. same here. but sometimes I restart for the fun of it. It's an old windows habit ;)
Same here. I was actually used to powering down/up the computer several times a day when I was a Windows user. OS9 eliminted the need for multiple restarts during the day, and OSX has made it a very rare occurrence (I'm still using 10.3.9).
 

ebow

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Another iMac (G3, though) user here--I usually go weeks between shutdowns or restarts. To be fair, though, my Wintel laptop at work can sometimes go a couple of weeks before desperately needing to be rebooted.
 

mkrishnan

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Jan 9, 2004
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Oh, one more little addendum. Occasionally, even in MacOS X, like in other OSes, you might see "leaks" where programs fail to de-allocate RAM, and as a result, at some point your performance tanks and eeeeevvvvveeerrrrryyyytttthhhiiiiingggggg iiiisssss ssssssooooo ssssssllllllooooowwww. :)

In that case, it still isn't necessary to restart; from what I've seen, it is sufficient to just close every open program and wait a couple seconds, and then usually garbage collection is quite effective and you can go back to normal. :)
 

EasyB

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Jan 29, 2005
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What about on an airplane?

Do you think it is ok to bring your powerbook on the airplane in sleep mode? It sure does save allot of battery when you don't need to boot up all the time. :cool:
 

TreeHugger

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Jun 30, 2004
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haven't actually been on a plane with my powerbook, but I would definitely only put it in sleep mode. Especially with airport security... Usually you have to show them that your computer works and isn't a bomb. Just waking it from some z's will be much faster than booting up.
 

Applespider

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TreeHugger said:
haven't actually been on a plane with my powerbook, but I would definitely only put it in sleep mode. Especially with airport security... Usually you have to show them that your computer works and isn't a bomb. Just waking it from some z's will be much faster than booting up.

Sleep mode on a flight is fine - just remember to turn off Airport. They've stopped asking for you to prove it works now each time (presumably they're more common now!)- you just have to take it out of its case so it can be Xrayed at least in the US. In Europe, they're quite happy just to let it stay in your carry-on and only look if they see a problem.
 

mkrishnan

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Jan 9, 2004
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Applespider said:
Sleep mode on a flight is fine - just remember to turn off Airport. They've stopped asking for you to prove it works now each time (presumably they're more common now!)- you just have to take it out of its case so it can be Xrayed at least in the US. In Europe, they're quite happy just to let it stay in your carry-on and only look if they see a problem.

You can sleep it on a train, you can sleep it in a plane! You can sleep it when it rains, you can sleep it when in Spain! :D

I made the mistake of forgetting to take my laptop out of my carry-on recently once and it was a *huuuge* rigamarole. Although they didn't seem very mad at me. :eek:
 

7254278

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Apr 11, 2004
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mkrishnan said:
You can sleep it on a train, you can sleep it in a plane! You can sleep it when it rains, you can sleep it when in Spain! :D


I live in spain :p and my ibook is never off, just asleep
 

e²Studios

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Apr 12, 2005
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I usually leave my ibook in sleep, or off. My Mini is always on, it just puts the HD and display to sleep

Ed
 

MontyZ

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Jan 7, 2005
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TreeHugger said:
Usually you have to show them that your computer works and isn't a bomb.
Isn't that the stupidest way to check if your laptop is a bomb? I mean, won't some clever terrorist eventually figure out how to make a working laptop explode? If so, it'll probably be a Dell laptop anyway.
 

mkrishnan

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MontyZ said:
If so, it'll probably be a Dell laptop anyway.

Well, it isn't like there's not ample room inside some of those Inspirons... :D 12" iBooks and PBs on the other hand, are pretty much full already. Plus, I think they figure I can't be a terrorist when they see I have a hot pink keyboard and hearts all over my screen background. ;)
 

MontyZ

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Jan 7, 2005
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mkrishnan said:
Plus, I think they figure I can't be a terrorist when they see I have a hot pink keyboard and hearts all over my screen background.
HAHAHA! I'd love to see a photo of that.
 

SchmoBurger

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Jul 8, 2005
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Anyone who has ideas of blowing up a Powerbook should not be allowed to live... it would be heracy!

As far as sleeping goes... well, my Lombard hasn't been restarted in almost a month. It is running 10.3.6. :cool:
 

ITASOR

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Mar 20, 2005
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When you want to put an app aside, for instance iTunes, click the red X ball on the window. Then do CMD+H to hide it. This makes it take way less RAM.

Please note, this only works on programs like Mail, iTunes, iChat, etc. It doesn't work on any documents like TextEdit, Word, etc.
 

wdlove

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Oct 20, 2002
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The sleep mode is alright. With my Power Mac I leave it on all the time. Just have the monitor go into sleep mode to conserve power and the screen. Leaving the Mac on allows Mac OS X to run its routine maintenance scripts on a daily, weekly, and monthly basis.
 

fowler.

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Apr 18, 2004
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My computer needs to sleep during the day, or I come home to a room that's about the temperature of the sun.
 

pubwvj

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Oct 1, 2004
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jer446 said:
Is it ok if you leave an imac always in sleep mode? Also, on an imac, does it matter which way you put in the disk into a slot drive? When you minimize things, like a webpage, you can minimize many things like on windows right?

On our iMac I have it set to go to sleep in an hour of inactivity. I may change this to just spin down the hard drive and turn off the screen so it can do maintenance at night.

On our iBooks and PowerBooks I have them set to simply spin down the HD and turn of the screen. They never go to sleep. They've been doing that for 5(?) years. Power drain is very minimal and that way they are awake to do maintenance at night. Works great. I am an errattic sleeper and often get up to do stuff in the middle of the night.
 

StokeLee

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May 30, 2005
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Ive got the new imac g5, its in my bedroom,
ive had it a month or two now,I shut it down each night when i go to bed, because, after trying it in sleep mode, i can hear it. Is this normal???? not sure if its the fans i can hear or the harddrive, but it makes that kinda noise,, is that normal,,,,,

anyway,, is there a way to black my screen out,(guess could make a black screen saver) but would like to turn the screen off, which would be better, so that i can keep my tunes on????
and then set auto sleep for after im asleep?
 
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