Amazon, Pepsi and Sony; Netflix Streaming

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    As we approach the Macworld Expo Keynote, a few industry news items that may be relevant to Apple:

    Amazon, Pepsi and Sony
    As previously reported, Amazon and Pepsi are teaming up for a 1 billion song giveaway to be launched during the Superbowl.

    Meanwhile, Sony announced that it was the last of the major record labels to join Amazon and is now offering their catalog (DRM free) on Amazon's MP3 Download Store.

    Netflix Streaming
    In face of rumors that Apple would be entering the movie rental arena, Netflix announced that they are allowing customers to stream an unlimited number of movies for a flat monthly fee (starting at $8.99). This service offers customers access to over 6000 titles for streaming. Prior to this announcement, streaming downloads were subject to usage caps based on your subscription plan.



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    I think Apple will have plenty of competition in the movie arena.
     
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    Sounds interesting if Netflix will have it work for Apple users, not just Windows.
     
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    Seriously. Still waiting on this. Netflix claims it's because Apple makes obtaining the DRMs difficult, somehow, and the studios have only approved the use on Windows machines. Does anyone with any knowledge on the topic want to explain to me how this makes sense?
     
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    Yes, it's simple. Microsoft licenses out the DRM technology for playback with Windows Media Player, and Apple does not for QuickTime. Thus, you're up to your own for playing back DRM'd media on Mac OS X.
     
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    In the Netflix boardroom...

    "Hurry hurry hurry, release something before Apple so it doesn't look like we're behind"
     
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    Its disappointing that Netflix (streaming) isn't available on the Mac. I would much rather spend ~$10 a month then the $70+ a month I am already spending for all the premium channels on Comcast.

    If they open up iTunes rentals to the AppleTV with *good* quality I will be all over it. I already own an AppleTV hooked up to a 61" HD TV. So, the quality needs to be at least DVD level, which I know is a tall order.
     
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    yeah, Apple has some competition in this area. we'll see what apple has up their sleeve soon though
     
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    Good for Netflix; competition is good for consumers. If Apple really intends to charge 4 bucks for a 24 hour self destructing rental then I say good for Netflix and I hope they force Apple to rethink their ripping off of their customers.
     
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    Netflix streaming is available on the Mac.

    I have been watching the Sci-Fi series The Surface recently using my MacBook and VMWare Fusion. It works fine.
     
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    fill me in on this?

    I have used many browsers. unless you are talking running bootcamp or parallels, which is a joke and overkill for such an operation.
     
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    I recently got Parallels running on my Intel Mac mini, mainly to try out the Netflix streaming option (as I was "paying" for it with my subscription, I might as well use it!). The movie selection is fairly woeful, but there's the occasional thing that is worthwhile, and the streaming worked quite well. It does have a fairly good bunch of TV shows which I might take advantage of though (Office, 30 Rock, Red Dwarf, Little Britain, etc).
     
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    I dont think Apple will be able to beat this deal. Apple's not one for subscriptions, so I bet it'll be like $2.99 per rental. But, with the ability to play those files briefly on iPods & AppleTV.

    For me, thats not worth it. But it may be for some. I'll stick with all you can watch for $9 via Netflix. Just sucks that I have to use BootCamp, but oh well.
     
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    I, too, am happy to see Netflix back out in the lead. When blockbuster copied their service (down to the envelopes!) I was pretty disappointed. Then, when I myself joined blockbuster over netflix when I moved, because of the two in-store rentals that blockbuster gives, I thought Netflix was cooked.

    Now I'm back on Netflix, and feel good about myself.
     
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    But there is a Mac version of windows media player isn't there?

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    Yes, but Netflix uses DRM which cannot be played back on the Mac yet, only Windows.
     
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    I believe that this annoucement means they have many more titles available then they had in the past. Their page says they have over 6000 movies to watch over the internet, so there's a good chance you will find something you want to watch now.

    I agree it's overkill, but it works. I have had no luck in getting Sirius steamed to my iMac that I use Fusion to run Sirius player on XP to get my Howard Stern fix...
     
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    Funny...

    As far as the Amazon/Pepsi/Sony thing, I think that's fantastic. I'm sure the vast majority of the songs bought/given away there will land on ipods anyway.

    As far as the Netflix thing, that's a little odd. Are they shooting themselves in the foot, rushing to announce something the day before a rumored announcement? If Apple debuts something that makes as big of a splash as AppleTV has (wha?), perhaps Netflix would have been better off holding their position. Whether that's the case or not, I think it's quite a good deal and will help Netflix devour a little more Blockbuster.

    Given this news though, I'd love to hear tomorrow that Netflix is now downloadable to AppleTV. I would squeal with joy right up to the point when my girlfriend tells me we can't get an AppleTV. :eek:
     
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    Yes, but it cannot handle DRM. No player on the Mac supports Windows DRM since MS refuses to support it.
     
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    If they deliver it (and I'm sure they will), they won. Sure, the hidebound Mac and Linux users won't be able to avail themselves of it, so they'll just have to console themselves with the other 95% of the population.

    If Apple's rental deal is as bad as we hear ($4/24 hours), then Netflix needn't have worried. Unlimited movie streaming for such a low price to combat the iTunes rentals is like swatting a fly with a Buick.

    In fact, I would go so far as to say that this subscription plan succeeds where iTunes has failed, and if my Apple TV could stream Netflix videos, I wouldn't hesitate to rejoin.
     
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    I think if you wanted to use the Netflix service on your Mac you'd just get VMware Fusion and run Windows inside of that. It would pay for itself given the price difference between Apples $4 per move and Netflix's unlimited subscription service.

    I have low expectations for this year's announcements. I think one more year that Steve does not talk about Macs at Mac World. Last year it was cell phones this year movie rentals. Next year what? A line of Apple designer clothing?
     
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    It hasn't been updated or supported in several years and it does not work with protected WM content.

    Are you nuts! Last year it was not cell phones, it was the iPhone, Apple's biggest product since the iPod. Also, have you not heard about the ultraportable rumors going on for months?
     
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    unless netflix updated their library for streaming, it sucks. I like new releases for streaming or atleast newer.
     
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    I'm all in favor of having Amazon, iTunes (Plus, please) and Netflix all be strong options that I can use at will.

    Just as long as Netflix online movies stop being Windows-only, and start having a better selection--like Netflix offers in DVD form.
     
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    Netflix's move is nothing. The time-cap on movie watching was already pretty large compared to my desire to watch anything. I bet they did this because none of their existing subscribers were coming anywhere near the cap.

    Watching on Netflix's really bites compared to Hulu. Though Hulu is advertiser supported, Hulu has better quality, is Mac-compatible, and is a much nicer experience even if you are using Windows.
     

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