"[D]igital content that you supposedly OWN"? You might want to re-read the user agreement to which you assented.
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"[D]igital content that you supposedly OWN"? You might want to re-read the user agreement to which you assented.
Unfortunately the local monopolies these companies established (which you mentioned earlier) prevent a similar approach in the ISP/cable TV market. Most people have no options for cable TV and no viable options for a cable ISP replacement.
I'm going to go with somewhere between $30 and $99. Because that seems to be the sweet spot for these devices.
And it's possible there might be more than one device and a price range to match.
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And this is why I still love physical media. Not only (for example Blu-Ray) is it superior quality) - but if a service were to shut down - or - I don't know - internet goes down - I have a copy I can slide into a player.
Oh - I still digitized my content - and stream - but for most of my media, I am not reliant on any 3rd parties.
Unfortunately cable companies are getting more powerful. A perfect example is the Comcast-TWC merger ( if approved)
Remember content is being restricted and price for content is going to go up to netflix etc. Amazon is just another start up player in this area more interested in the gaming area even though they have created their own content
Time will tell
Perhaps I am optimistic. While I do think prices will rise and there could be more restrictions - ultimately, if people get angry enough - they will simply scale back. So many people have already "cut the cord" because of high cable costs. Granted - not everyone can live with access via digital antenna - but enough can to affect bottom line. And I know if my bandwidth were capped, throttled or the cost got too high - I would scale back my usage and find other ways to be entertained. And I am sure I am not alone.
It's going to be very interesting to see the "battle" that lies ahead with the cable companies, government and companies like Google (with Fiber) all vying to provide access. At least here in the US.
AppleScruff1 said "big profit" not "no profit" and was talking from the consumer perspective of as long as quality goods/services are delivered for a reasonable price the end user typically doesn't care how the companies bottom line is doing. To that, I doubt we'll ever hear an end user say, "Well, my Comcast service is horrible, the monthly bill is insanely high but I'm glad their stock price is doing so swell."
The people running the business and the shareholders probably have a different perspective though.
True, in fairness I read too much into what he said. Sorry 'bout that.
Right, consumers don't care about profits, nor should they -- but as you say, the company and its shareholders sure do. The stock price for AMZN keeps rising because of the prospect of profits.
Are you sure? I use the Amazon Prime app on my iPhone always send the videos to my Apple TV via that app's AirPlay integration. Is it different on the iPad?
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Technically, you don't own digital content on most CDs, either, but your point is well-taken.
I didn't say that a company could operate at a loss forever. I just said, why do I as Joe Consumer care as long as said company meets my needs and provides sustainable services. Personally I have never seen a group as obsessed with profits as I do on Apple forums. And most of the people bragging about profits aren't shareholders. I'm selfish, I'm a consumer and I care about myself over Amazon, Apple, etc.
In my real life, I never hear friends, strangers or anyone happy that their health insurance costs rose because it helped their insurance company get richer. Or their auto or homeowners insurance. I have yet to encounter anyone who is overjoyed that their property taxes went up. Same for gas, electric, cable, cell phone etc. Again, I'm selfish, as long as I flip the switch and the lights come on, I don't give a fleeting worry as to the profitability of NStar Electric. But that's just me.
Yet you CANNOT provide any examples. Your reasoning is completely irrational and just because you believe it doesn't give it proof of it's validity. Sorry bud. Keep being upset at Amazon but yet LOVE Apple... typical irrational, illogical Apple fan.
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lol love it! so true!
apple fans are insane and irrational. They believe apple is god.
You're right, I read too much into your comment (confession above). Sorry!
You are also right that a lot of non-stockholders take way too much interest in AAPL's performance on the stock market, as if this validates their consumer choices. It is a strange phenomenon, one I believe we've discussed in other threads.
Of course the shoe goes on the other foot a lot of times. Folks often get so excited by non-products from Amazon and Google that they are ready declare that Apple is over the hill.
I sold my AAPL stock and bought into TSLA. It was a sad day for me, but clearly Apple cannot innovate. All Cook does is talk about how they are innovative, but I'm not seeing anything in innovative in their product mix. It seems the corporates are drinking their own koolaide.
Right now there are two innovation engines in silicon valley - Google and Tesla. Apple can't innovate out of a paper bag at the moment. I'm sorry to see my favorite company on earth decline to the point where they can't even be first to market with anything anymore.
Right now there are two innovation engines in silicon valley - Google and Tesla. Apple can't innovate out of a paper bag at the moment. I'm sorry to see my favorite company on earth decline to the point where they can't even be first to market with anything anymore.
Than explain why I can stream Amazon Prime through Airplay? Once again we are going through this no one has proof that Apple blocked Amazon Prime to be on Apple TV if they allowed Amazon through Airplay than there is a chance to be on Apple TV. Does not make sense at all what you are saying when Netflix is on Apple TV I wonder how much sales that is driving on iTunes also Amazon Streaming on iPhone or iPad if that is allowed on those Apple devices explain to me how different is it on Apple TV because you can also rent or buy a movie or a TV show from iTunes on your iPhone or iPad.
There is no proof of why Amazon Prime is not on Apple TV everyone has their own fantasy stories. I can understand why VUDU will never be on Apple TV
No offense intended, but please read my last sentence a bit better. I clearly indicate that with Netflix on Apple TV, Apple is now following a new path.
And your post is really difficult to read without interpunction, let alone understand. Please write a coherent question, because I have got no clue what you are trying to ask me here..
yeah, I bet you were one of those people exchanging 20 macbooks due to a 'cosmetic imperfection' or something else that was of high cost.
what rubbish, on so many accounts. samsung employs a "throw enough sh** and see what sticks" product strategy. their "innovations" are useless gimmicks like eye-control. meanwhile, the retina macbook pro is amazing, the mac pro is amazing, and the iphone is amazing. and the ipad mini - amazing.
which could explain why Apple is selling the most devices over any other vendor, and why their eat all the profits.
1. use an iOS device and AirPlay. Solved. (or a playstation or a wii)
2. whatever
3. sure, but ethernet is better
4. nah, it's okay
5. whatever
6. maybe ... BUT if they're going to add channels, they need a single place to put your cable password and let it stick, even if you don't use the device every single day. Is that so much to ask?
7. it's probably your network, not the AppleTV.
Google is a giant, and their strategy is completely different from apple's therefore there is practically nothing apple can do about the fact that android is gobbling up market shares. Have you looked at the OEMs that use android? What do you suggest, apple start selling software to other OEM's to check the number of makers from going over to android? Smartphone software is increasingly getting complex, and i doubt many OEM's will survive if they had to do it themselves, google saw this as an opportunity to tap into this phenomenon and got plenty of OEM's on board (with some convincing
)..For google this was the right strategy as they wanted control over mobile search. For apple, software simply exists to sell the hardware and as such, unless apple turns into a full blown software company ( like a Microsoft) they cannot do much about android's market share. Apple can continue to sell a ton of iPhones and still loose marketshare..There are supply constraints..Apple can't just get up one day and say that 14 months from now we will double or tripple our iPhone production..Regarding Samsung and its sales, apple is only worried about categories where it competes, and as such the iPhone has been performing awesome in its category beating anything samsung has to offer. Apple is slow to offer choices, but they are getting around that..They sell an incredible number of iPhones..i see the biggest advantage samsung enjoys fading away with a larger iPhone..
BTW, Despite of its numerous choices ((even under the galaxy bandwagon) samsung was loosing customers to apple at 3 times the rate that apple was loosing customers to samsung. How will that change once apple offers screen sizes that are larger and even 2 different screen sizes?
You're right, I read too much into your comment (confession above). Sorry!
You are also right that a lot of non-stockholders take way too much interest in AAPL's performance on the stock market, as if this validates their consumer choices. It is a strange phenomenon, one I believe we've discussed in other threads.
Of course the shoe goes on the other foot a lot of times. Folks often get so excited by non-products from Amazon and Google that they are ready declare that Apple is over the hill.
No offense taken. And I agree with your last statement. It seems some are trying to bury Apple prematurely. I do think that it will get increasingly difficult for Apple to stay at the cutting edge, but they do have a huge loyal fan base and even if they were to launch a dud or two, it won't really hurt them, IMO. I'm not surprised that fresh ideas are coming from other big companies and even from some smaller ones. Somewhere down the line "the next big thing" is bound to hit the market regardless of who makes it. It might very well be Apple, but it may be not. Even if not, it's hardly the end of the company.
so is the Amazon TV device going to support iTunes? nope....because theyre direct competitors and it'd be like McDonald's serving Whoppers.
so i guess that means people can complaining about lack of Amazon Prime on Apple TV? at least by owning an Apple TV you can airplay Prime from an ipad...
so i guess that means people can complaining about lack of Amazon Prime on Apple TV? at least by owning an Apple TV you can airplay Prime from an ipad...
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Sounds like you have Comcast (as do I). Through whose pipe does the data flow to make these little boxes stream anything? Should any of these players eat Comcast's (and similar) TV subscription business, Comcast, etc. will just make up for the revenue in higher broadband rates ("for heavier users"). I never get how many of us can't see that play out. After all, where you going to go for alternative broadband? If you are lucky, you might have one other choice like me (AT&T Uverse) but isn't that other choice (if you have one) also in the cableTV business?
I love the concept but while these little boxes depend on a broadband pipe owned by the cable companies, I just don't see how we ever get to "put it to" the cable industry. Instead, I can imagine a $50 broadband bill + $100 cable bill becoming a $70 set-top box subscription (Apple or Amazon, etc gets theirs- and let's face, they are not interested in $3 or $7 or even $20 per month) + $150 (or more) broadband bill (so that a Comcast, etc still gets theirs too). Picture tiered pricing rationalized as "for heavier users" (we've already seen that very same movie. This will just be the natural sequel).
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I agree, I posted something quite similar in an earlier thread. The cable companies aren't going to get cut out of the content market and provide low rates as a delivery system for someone else's content.
Since the instant video app is already available on other devices, if Amazon does create their own box, will they take away the app from the Apple app store, etc? I don't think that makes sense. However if they come out with their own box, but leave the app on all the other devices, then what's the point of the box? Maybe it's me, but Amazon creating their own box does not seem to fit their current strategy. But maybe Jeff has some other plan that we don't know yet - something involving small remote helicopters maybe
Amazon still supports Kindle apps as well as selling Kindle readers.
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