AMD has now released the Athlon FX 64 (Sledge Hammer) clocked @ 2.2GHz and the Athlon 64 3200+ (Claw Hammer,) clocked @ 2.0GHz, their first real consumer based 64-bit Processors at an affordable price. As we know the Opteron has been out since April but that doesnt really matter. Now the G5 has a true competitor. Tomshardware has done what appears to be the most extensive processor benchmark every undertaken entitled, A New World Order: the Athlon 64 FX and Athlon 64 vs. the P4 Extreme can be viewed here www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/20030923 The results are the most comprehensive I have seen, and are a must view for anyone wishing to buy a high performance single proc computer in the near future. However the test neglected to include Macintoshs best offerings in their tests. Why would they go to all this effort and not include the G5? Probably because there target audience is people who use windows and spend most of there time gameing, not mac uses tend not to look to benchmarks performed by others such as www.tomshardware.com but rater turn to Steve for comfort in what they believe. That aside it still strikes me that they didnt acquire G5 systems that are now freely available and include them their benchmark. And entitle it A New World Order: the Athlon 64 FX and Athlon 64 vs. the P4 Extreme and the Apple G5, Telling the public the full uncut story about the 3 major players? Remember Tomshardware has nothing to gain or lose form what they uncover. only chip makers do.